Rob Ford crack video released

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Frankfooter;5617714Finding out the mayor of Toronto smoked crack with gang members said:
Putting the city of Toronto under possible extortion control of a gang? - LOL! That's a little dramatic is it not? (I would hate too see how the gang would have fared against that wacky crew at city hall).

Per the reporters I would rather have them base their reporting on facts instead of interpretation or what they thought they heard. I thought the Star had integrity. If it was Wynn instead of Ford in this situation I would fully expect the Sun to make a zillion assumptions and to report on what they thought they saw or heard.

But looking back at what happened and what has transpired since the infamous video was reported...Has Toronto suffered from it? I believe it has one of the highest rates of construction of any city in North America, it has received world recognition during Ford's reign (good or bad publicity all equal publicity), they hosted the Pan Am games...The city, as far as I can see, did not suffer under the years of Ford rule.

As much as partisan politics come into play, the role of Mayor has little impact on the big picture of the city.

Prior to Tory, Toronto has had a loudmouth, a socialist and a buffoon sitting in the Mayors chair and despite those drastic opposing views, the city has survived and thrived under each leadership.

Ford sitting the Mayoral chair, was really insignificant in the grand scheme of things.


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So if it is acceptable to you that the Mayor of Toronto was a lying, alcoholic drug user who spent his spare time socializing and doing crack cocaine with drug and gun trafficking gang members in a renowned crack house.. what would be your threshold for unacceptable character and behaviour of the Mayor?
 

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So if it is acceptable to you that the Mayor of Toronto was a lying, alcoholic drug user who spent his spare time socializing with drug and gun trafficking gang members.. what would be your threshold for unacceptable character and behaviour of the Mayor?
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Ref: remember the way they linked Ford to the drug dealers is because he used his own credit card to pay the utilities on the dealers house. He was such a stupid person all around. Amazing he got as far as he did. Doug is the shark, it's only a matter of time before he figures out a way to replace Mike Ford with himself...back in his riding, sucking on the public teat for years. Again.

Anyone that believes it's ok to have the mayor of the largest city in Canada, consorting with drug dealers is an idiot.
 

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So if it is acceptable to you that the Mayor of Toronto was a lying, alcoholic drug user who spent his spare time socializing with drug and gun trafficking gang members.. what would be your threshold for unacceptable character and behaviour of the Mayor?
My point was the role of Mayor is really insignificant in the grand scheme of things. I prefer the safe, respectable and responsible behaviors that Tory exhibits, but the behaviors of Ford and even Lastman are proof enough that it really does not matter who is Mayor, it has little impact on the economic well being of the city.

You can even look at Mayor Marion Berry in Washington, who went down the same road as Ford. The publicity looked bad on him, but his behaviors would have zero impact on my decision to visit Washington.

I am not condoning Ford's behavior, I am merely saying that his behaviors did little to impact the economic well being of the city.
 

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Very classy move to post the video of the man after his death. Why not just let him rest in peace?

The Toronto Star has lost any credibility with me as well as any of the dickheads on this page that have supported the release of this video. A bunch of cowardly assholes in my opinion.

I bet you loved Ford and hated the Star for doing their job and exposing him for what he was , which he vehemently denied and waged war on the truth tellers. This needs to be seen to vindicate all the people who were attacked and called liars unfairly by Ford and the zombies of "Ford Nation". The video is just him getting very high and he doesn't say anything offensive even though he is being baited by the extortionist. In fact, he doesn't really say anything intelligable at all and one feels sorry for him because he is being fucked over by people he thought were cool.
 

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What's wrong with this picture?
1) Video made without Rob Ford's knowledge or consent.
2) Ford was in a private home.
3) Legal case was dropped (and yet they released the video to the public?)
4) Video released to the public with the Ford family's consent.
One party consent is all that is needed and that is the person taking the video and speaking to Ford.

Ford was a public figure, therefore the video was made public. Had he been a private citizen, we never would have seen this.
 

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Putting the city of Toronto under possible extortion control of a gang? - LOL! That's a little dramatic is it not? (I would hate too see how the gang would have fared against that wacky crew at city hall).
Sorry, how daft are you?

The reason the video came out is because the dealer/extortionist who took it thought he could get tonnes of cash from Ford, but then decided he could get more from Gawker.
The Lisi trial that was just dismissed was about Ford sending Lisi out to get the video back.

The only reason there is a video is that Ford's dealer/friend/extortionist took a video with the sole purpose of extorting Ford.
 

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He had his demons (we all do), but I have more respect for him than I do Wynn or Trudeau. He cared about the taxpayer and the average Joe. I would vote for him in Heaven or Hell.
Rob, Wynn, Trudeau are all crooked in their own way. To suggest one is better than the other is no real prize. That's like saying I'm going to date the least ugly of three ugly girls.
 

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This is why the rest of the world laughed at Toronto when this came out. There are still people defending a mayor who was a legit crackhead. Think about that for a second. You're defending a crackhead!

Sign of the times.
 

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Sorry, how daft are you?

The reason the video came out is because the dealer/extortionist who took it thought he could get tonnes of cash from Ford, but then decided he could get more from Gawker.
The Lisi trial that was just dismissed was about Ford sending Lisi out to get the video back.

The only reason there is a video is that Ford's dealer/friend/extortionist took a video with the sole purpose of extorting Ford.
Your first post said the city of Toronto was under extortion and now you are saying it was only Ford...

I disagreed with your first statement, not the second.
 

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Your first post said the city of Toronto was under extortion and now you are saying it was only Ford...

I disagreed with your first statement, not the second.
So you don't think there is any concern for the city of Toronto when its known that the mayor was extorted for his crack smoking habit?
 

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Your first post said the city of Toronto was under extortion and now you are saying it was only Ford...

I disagreed with your first statement, not the second.

Is your misrepresentation deliberate or just an honest effort to justify your untenable dismissal of the Mayor smoking crack with drug and gun dealing criminal gang members?

Because frankfooter actually said "until you see the Mayor of Toronto risking putting the city of Toronto under possible extortion control of a gang,..".

Risking. Possible. Big difference than you saying he said the city "was under extortion"

In this case, the first extortionist wanted cash. What if he wanted the Mayor to use his office/position/influence with some buddies in the police force?

Like the second extortionist (Rob Ford's front man Sandro Lisi) did. Lisi was caught on wiretap threatening, on behalf of the Mayor's interests, to bring extraordinary police presence to the gang and neighbourhood. (And spare me the excuse that such increased police efforts would be just another example of Rob Ford serving the community !)

So the threat of extortion is not just theoretical. It is actual. Your ridiculous rhetoric about the Mayor having limited policy influence and then citing construction and tourism examples is laughable. Drug and gun dealing gangs and murderers would not demand rezoning applications or other policy changes. They'd demand things like Ford using his influence for a nyriad of nefarious purposes.

Yes, the city thrived during Ford's term. It was thriving before, and it continues to thrive.
Despite him, not because of him.

I think Ford was good for the city for ONE reason. He shook things up and that broke a lot of the bad habits that city council and bureaucrats
had allowed to become the norm. We needed a shake up and Ford provided that.
 

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Per the reporters I would rather have them base their reporting on facts instead of interpretation or what they thought they heard. I thought the Star had integrity. If it was Wynn instead of Ford in this situation I would fully expect the Sun to make a zillion assumptions and to report on what they thought they saw or heard.

 
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