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The number of really devout people of any religion in Canada is dropping.

Second generation Muslims are pretty much like any other second generation Canadian, moderate.
Survey shows Muslim population is fastest growing religion in Canada

Across the country, the Muslim population is growing at a rate exceeding other religions, according to Statistics Canada. It is even growing faster than the number of Canadians identifying as having no religion

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/c...ulation-is-fastest-growing-religion-in-canada

You mean like the Orlando islamic terrorist or the San Bernardino islamic terrorist or one of the Garland, Texas attackers or Nidal Hassan - the Fort Hood killer?

Today, most Muslims in Belgium are the third- and fourth-generation. http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7677/belgium-jihadists

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/13/second-generation-americans-proving-most-fruitful-/

American-born children of immigrants proving fruitful recruiting ground for jihad in U.S.

While immigrants draw much of the attention, it’s their children who are proving to be the most fruitful recruiting ground for radical jihad in the U.S., accounting for at least half of the deadly attacks over the past decade.

The latest instance of the second-generation terrorist syndrome played out in Orlando, Florida, over the weekend when Omar Mateen, son of immigrants from Afghanistan, went on a jihad-inspired rampage, killing 49 people and wounding 53 others in the worst mass shooting in U.S. history.

Authorities said Mateen had flirted with other terrorist groups but declared his allegiance to the Islamic State on Sunday morning as he began his horrific spree.

He follows in the footsteps of Syed Rizwan Farook, one of the San Bernardino, California, terrorists who was the son of Pakistanis; Nadir Soofi, one of two men who attacked a drawing competition in Garland, Texas, last year and whose father was from Pakistan; and then-Maj. Nidal Hassan, the child of Palestinian immigrants whose shooting rampage at Fort Hood, Texas, in 2009 set off the modern round of deadly lone-wolf attacks.

In other cases, attackers were immigrants brought to the U.S. as young children. They grew up in the U.S. but were besieged by questions of identity.

“Historically, the ‘high stress’ generation for American immigrants has been second generation,” said former CIA Director Michael V. Hayden. “Mom and Pop can rely on the culture of where they came from. Their grandchildren will be (more or less) thoroughly American. The generation in between, though, is anchored neither in the old or in the new. They often are searching for self or identity beyond self.”

The Sept. 11, 2001, hijackers were all foreigners who gained entry to the U.S. on visas, sparking a heated and still-running debate over the role of borders in trying to keep out would-be attackers.

But the second-generation killers pose a different issue: how to keep children of immigrants from abandoning the precepts of their adopted home.

Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump said Monday that the issues are one and the same.

“The bottom line is that the only reason the killer was in America in the first place was because we allowed his family to come here. That is a fact, and it’s a fact we need to talk about,” Mr. Trump said in a speech in New Hampshire.

He revised his call for a temporary ban on admitting Muslims to the U.S., saying it would apply only to travelers from regions connected to terrorism. He said the ban would end once the U.S. has a better idea of who is coming and what values they hold.

Mr. Trump said immigrants from Afghanistan — the home of Mateen’s parents — overwhelmingly “support oppressive Sharia law,” which he said is anathema to American values of diversity. Indeed, Mateen’s father suggested that the killer may have been set off by having seen two men kissing. Mateen’s massacre targeted a gay nightclub.

But some researchers suggest the link to religion is less important than the marginalization immigrants and first-generation Americans may feel. In a study last year funded by the Homeland Security Department, researchers said those who felt instances of discrimination, personal shame or humiliation had higher propensity toward radicalization.

Some policymakers bristle at connecting terrorist attacks to immigration, and it’s difficult to know the outlines of the connection.

Sen. Jeff Sessions, Alabama Republican, and Sen. Ted Cruz, Texas Republican, have repeatedly asked the Homeland Security Department for immigration information on those implicated in recent terrorist plots, but they said they have yet to get a “substantive” response.

That leaves the public blind, Mr. Sessions said in a statement Monday.

“While the vast majority of Muslims are law-abiding and peaceful, we must face the uncomfortable reality that not only are immigrants from Muslim-majority countries coming to the United States, radicalizing, and attempting to engage in acts of terrorism, such as in Boston and Chattanooga; but also, their first-generation American children are susceptible to the toxic radicalization of terrorist organizations,” Mr. Sessions said.

Alejandro Beutel, a researcher at the University of Maryland’s National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism, said many first-generation Americans face identity issues and often that’s healthy, spurring a desire for greater civic involvement. But some people — particularly those from Muslim-majority societies — can have deeper struggles, caught between seeing themselves as fully American or as part of their parents’ home cultures.

Mr. Beutel said the recruits’ ages play a role. They are typically younger and use the social media platforms that the Islamic State has proved so adept at using to spread its message, fostering a sense of community among those struggling with identity.

“Social media platforms are not only a means to disseminate their propaganda; they’re a way to directly communicate, one on one, with potential recruits,” he said.

The same identity struggles affect other first-generation Americans, but Asian and Hispanic immigrants, for example, don’t have al Qaeda or Islamic State recruiters interested in them, Mr. Beutel said. Instead, they are typically targeted for recruitment by criminal gangs.

Hedieh Mirahmadi, president of the World Organization for Resource Development and Education and an authority on countering violent extremism, said part of the struggle is “religious literacy,” and a saying in Muslim communities that “if you don’t teach your child Islam someone else will.”

Parents are often culturally Muslim but their children are more religiously devoted and seek out instruction online, where they are ripe for recruitment.

“There’s a responsibility for immigrant families to realize that their children may be learning religion online and there may be deviant interpretations online they may be subjected to,” she said.

That’s true not just for Muslim families — one-third of those implicated in terrorist plots are converts (to Islam presumably), she said.
 

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islam is not biological
Agreed, but most racism is based on cultural differences, not biological.
Are you going to argue that you can't be racist to Spaniards, since they aren't a race?

What you push is Islamophobia:
slamophobia (or anti-Islam sentiment) is the prejudice against, hatred, or bigotry towards the religion of Islam or Muslims. While the term is now widely used, both the term itself and the underlying concept of Islamophobia have been heavily disputed.

The causes and characteristics of Islamophobia are still debated. Some scholars have defined it as a type of racism.[1] Some commentators have posited an increase in Islamophobia resulting from the September 11 attacks, while others have associated it with the increased presence of Muslims in the United States, the European Union and other secular nations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamophobia
 

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Agreed, but most racism is based on cultural differences, not biological.
Are you going to argue that you can't be racist to Spaniards, since they aren't a race?

What you push is Islamophobia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamophobia

trying to equate anti-islam criticism to racism is race bating.

the term islamophbia was coined by Iranian mullahs to label women who won't wear the hijab/burqa.

muslim brotherhood and affiliates like CAIR a designated terrorist group by the U.A.E use that word to shut down criticism
 

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find one racist quote Robert Spencer made find the quote on his website or quit libel and slandering
There is no need.
The UK investigated him and banned him, that's good enough for me.
Even the CBC found he was brought to Canada by an organization noted for terrorism by the FBI.

Robert Spencer and his jihadwatch blog are examples of dangerous right wing extremism and racism.
 

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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/new-city-ads-islamophobia-1.3636346

Personally, I don't give a damn where you or your forefathers(mothers) came from. However, I do care that you adhere to Canadian laws and values (whatever that means nowadays).

Question: Why does City Hall think people are picking on Muslims? There must be a couple of dozen or more ethnic groups in Toronto and yet the ad specifically mentions Muslims.
You know what, I have met, worked with, hired and partied with Muslim people.

To think they are all a bunch of car bombing fanatics is about the same as thinking Christians are abortion clinic bombing homophobes.
 

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There is no need.
The UK investigated him and banned him, that's good enough for me.
Even the CBC found he was brought to Canada by an organization noted for terrorism by the FBI.

Robert Spencer and his jihadwatch blog are examples of dangerous right wing extremism and racism.
stop dodging and try find a racist quote from Robert Spencer.

provide sources where the FBI call his organization terrorist.

provide evidence or quit slandering
 

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islam is not biological


Full Definition of racism
1
: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

2
: racial prejudice or discrimination


I will ask a question which is purely academic and not an attack.

If the definition above is true, then Adolf Hitler was not racist? (Most Jews in Germany were Caucasian).

Yet he talked about the Aryian Race being superior to other races, including those that were Caucasian.

Is this issue purely semantical now? (I see now that the second definition categorizes the type of discrimination for race, as being racism, but Hitler I suppose tried to make a cultural difference into a racial one?)


Sidenote: My dad was discriminated against for being an Italian immigrant. So was that simply discrimination on non-racial grounds?
 

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I guarantee you have a far higher chance of being killed by your neighbor than by some terrorist.

You have an even far higher chance of dying of heart disease or cancer yet I bet many of these people forgoe healthy lifestyle and sit and read websites fearing people on the other side of the planet.

It's not even close chance of dying by cancer or heart disease is close to 50% vs 1.25% chance of being murdered..... death by terror would be even smaller than 1.25%

http://www.acbr.com/causdeat.htm
 

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stop dodging and try find a racist quote from Robert Spencer.

provide sources where the FBI call his organization terrorist.

provide evidence or quit slandering
I already gave you the cbc and bbc links to support my claims.

And slander?
“I have written on numerous occasions that there is no distinction in the American Muslim community between peaceful Muslims and jihadists.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2005/05/2-men-in-new-york-and-florida-charged-in-qaeda-conspiracy.html
 

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So your point is new residents of Canada shouldn't need to have any appreciation or understanding of its history and culture. ....
Understanding about Canadian society is important. History has some importance but being able to identify the apparel of a militia unit from more than 200 years ago more than just a little pedantic. Might be an appropriate topic for a history PhD candidate who can't find anything original to publish though.

And as for assimilation, I have seen it in practice having grown up with a few Canadian born Muslims who are just as Canadian as anyone else.
 

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Lets take a look at what the ADL says about your pal, Robert Spencer and his jihadwatch blog....
Have you taken a look at what they say about Hamas and the BDS movement? Hell, have you seen what Canada says about Hamas and the BDS movement?
 

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Calling for equal rights makes you a Hamas apologist around here?....
Pretending Hamas doesn't commit terror attacks even when Hamas claims credit for them does. Hell, you even go so far as to claim that Hamas is interested in peace with Israel.
 

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But not to get too far off topic, Robert Spencer is a racist kook, just as bad as franky but with a much bigger audience.
 

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So if this ad isn't aimed at convincing the anti-Muslim crowd to reform their ways, what exactly is its use? ....
To get the xenophobic Canadians to think about who they are and the way they treat others. And obviously they achieved their aim to create conversation.''

I take a tolerant view of beliefs, but one thing I won't tolerate is intolerance.
Yet putting forward an intolerant (and ignorant) view of Muslims.
 
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