The new official climate change thread

Moviefan-2

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It was also the 12th recording breaking monthly temperature in a row.
But as you say:
Way to pull a total bait and switch.

My "three months" statement was about the link that showed the Earth's temperature was 1.5ºC above the 1881 - 1910 baseline, not the number of months that the sea surface adjusters (aka, the Enron lovers) claim were 'record breakers'.
 

Moviefan-2

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The Met also released a projection for the next five years temperatures.
It's unbelievable that the Met Office is still making predictions. Its predictions are even worse than the IPCC's, if you can imagine such a thing.

One example. In a paper published in Nature in 2007, the Met Office predicted the Earth's temperature would increase 0.3°C from 2004 to 2014.

http://science.sciencemag.org/content/317/5839/796

In fact, the Met Office's own numbers have confirmed there was no temperature change over that period of time.

Cracked crystal balls do a better job than the Met Office.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...inaccurate-doom-mongering-climate-change.html
 

Frankfooter

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Way to pull a total bait and switch.

My "three months" statement was about the link that showed the Earth's temperature was 1.5ºC above the 1881 - 1910 baseline,
At least you are now admitting that we are 1.5ºC right now, not 1ºC.
That's a start.
 

JohnLarue

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May I remind you of your own words?
You were absolute on 100% elimination of fossil fuels and then later said
We don't need to replace it all,
and then tried to imply you had conveyed that position to me before
its been explained to you multiple times before.
You lie so easily you forget to cover your tracks
Q: How does one beleive the word of someone who lies which such ease?
A: No one does!



Is the bullshit lair the place where you keep all your ideas?
Sounds like what everplace you haunt/ call home



Did you order off the back of a pack of matches?
Nope from a University.
Really, you are incredibly incompetent on the issues of research and comprehension.
ha Ha
I have forgotten more than you will ever know.
Where did you study atmospheric chemistry?
The internet?

Truth be known I have forgotten a fair amount, however one never forgets how to view a scientific theory and view anyone who declares thier conculsion is absolute,
However the wost part about your bad act is attacking the chracter of a scientist you disagree with and who can not reply. That is low class garbage
Anyone who understands scientific reaseach knows that. & they know you should look to prove your position via a more credible route


How many times have I asked you to go back and look at the link and 'research' you provided, after showing you how you were totally suckered by shoddy work.
And here you still are, and you've totally failed to be able to understand the link you gave us, understand the points I made and understand where you went wrong.
Please refain from trying to convince anyone by attacking the character of a deceased scientist.

and for the thenth time
He raise some serious questions which need to be answered
Your charcter attack on him does not answer those questions

If you got a degree in science then we really need to look at our education system.
I am able to constantly best you in a batte of witts, so I suggest you fret about one crisis at a time. solve global warming before demanding tax dollars to re-invent our education system
 

Frankfooter

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May I remind you of your own words?
What I say is not relavant to the fact you were absolute on 100% elimination of fossil fuels and then later saying
and then trying to imply you had conveyed that position to me before
You lie so easily you forget to cover your tracks
Q: How does one beleive the word of someone who lies which such ease?
A: No one does!
Sounds like what everplace you haunt/ call home
Nope from a University.
ha Ha
I have forgotten more than you will ever know.
Where did you study atmospheric chemistry?
The internet?
Truth be known I have forgotten a fair amount, however one never forgets how to view a scientific theory and view anyone who declares thier conculsion is absolute
Please refain from trying to convince anyone by attacking the character of a deceased scientist.
and for the thenth time
He raise some serious questions which need to be answered
Your chacter attack on him does not answer those questions
I am able to constant best you in a batte of witts, so I suggest you fret about one crisis at a time. solve global warming before demanding tax dollars to re-invent our education system
While I'm amused by your 'batte of witts', you still have failed an incredibly basic challenge.
You provided a source, I pointed out that your dead scientist used trickery to try to make a point, you are still unable to verify or deny this claim.

For someone who claims to have studied science, you appear totally unable to do even basic research.
 

Frankfooter

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Oh, look -- here's NOAA's graphs that track the Earth's temperature anomalies.
Now that you are back to quoting the work you previously called a fraud, are we to take it that you now either:
a) accept their work as legit?
b) accept that you use sources you don't trust?

Which is it troll?
 

Frankfooter

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It's unbelievable that the Met Office is still making predictions. Its predictions are even worse than the IPCC's, if you can imagine such a thing.
They did better then you and your prediction that 2015 wouldn't hit 0.83ºC.
Lets just note that you are hitting .000, while the MET is doing much better.
 

Moviefan-2

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They did better then you and your prediction that 2015 wouldn't hit (0.89ºC).
Lets just note that you are hitting .000, while the MET is doing much better.
Actually, I'm batting a 1.000, Groggy.

And your attempts to change the subject don't alter the fact that the Met Office's predictions are absolutely worthless. You might as well use Tarot cards.
 

JohnLarue

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While I'm amused by your 'batte of witts', you still have failed an incredibly basic challenge.
You provided a source, I pointed out that your dead scientist used trickery to try to make a point, you are still unable to verify or deny this claim.
#1 I did not provide the source,
#2 I do not have to verify or deny anything you simpleton
Dr. Carter raise questions about the time references used in studies which your absolute conclusion is based upon
You have to provide answers to those questions or forever have doubt cast upon your absolute position
That's how it works you mental midget

For someone who claims to have studied science, you appear totally unable to do even basic research.
Well pretty much the first thing one learns in science is that scientific research usually provides a conclusion defined by a certain confidence level, which is never 100%
The second thing one learns is if someone is taking an absolute position, their understanding is questionable

Pray tell us the type of equipment is used to detect CO2 in the ppm range?
There may be more than one type
Then explain the fundamental detection mechanism for each
After that you could perhaps explain how unique detection methods maybe required for some of other nasty's in the Atmosphere ie oxides of sulphur and nitrogen and what their detection limits are
Then perhaps you can quantifiably explain how one measures a ton of CO2

My guess is you do not have a clue, yet you feel you are able to question the character of a scientist who obtained a doctorate? and be absolute about it
 

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Oh, look -- here's NOAA's graphs that track the Earth's temperature anomalies.

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/service/global/lo-hem/201604.gif

For some reason, NOAA is using annual temperature anomalies, rather than 30-year rolling averages.

I guess someone forgot to tell the big shots at NOAA that what they're doing is "hilariously, totally wrong." :biggrin-new:
So your plan is to completely ignore the FACT that the climate has been persistently warming and that you are utterly wrong ?

Do you somehow not grasp the reality that the rolling averages prove you utterly wrong ?

Hey everybody: look, a zealot with faith based views on climate who is absolutely RUNNING from the facts.

1980 -0.9
1981 0.8
1982 1.3
1983 2.0
1984 2.9
1985 3.7
1986 4.8
1987 5.9
1988 6.8
1989 7.8
1990 9.1
1991 10.3
1992 11.5
1993 12.3
1994 12.9
1995 14.9
1996 16.5
1997 17.8
1998 19.8
1999 21.8
2000 22.9
2001 24.5
2002 26.8
2003 28.3
2004 30.3
2005 32.2
2006 34.6
2007 37.0
2008 38.3
2009 40.1
2010 41.7
2011 42.8
2012 44.1
2013 45.5
2014 47.0
2015 49.2
2016 51.9

Between this and the published proof that human created CO2 emissions causes warming you really have had all your arguments destroyed and made irrelevant.
 
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Frankfooter

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Actually, I'm batting a 1.000,
Hey, had to alter the quote and forge a comment from me, did you?
The number you predicted the planet wouldn't hit was 0.83ºC, the same number I said the globe would reach.
Neither of us used 0.89ºC, you are just being a lying weasel again.

You are batting .000, loser.
 

Frankfooter

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#1 I did not provide the source,
#2 I do not have to verify or deny anything you simpleton
Dr. Carter raise questions about the time references used in studies which your absolute conclusion is based upon
As long as you continue to support the claims of dead Dr Carter, as you do in the above posts, you are basing your own credibility on Dr Carter's work.
I gave you one incredibly easy claim to check on, that the chart you used to support your argument contained one simple piece of trickery that you fell for and I didn't.
You are an easy mark if you fell for dead Dr Carter's swapping of surface temperature with stratospheric temperatures in the same chart.

You keep claiming that Carter raised questions, yet the questions raised by Carter's dodgy charts say more about his work and your understanding of the science then anything else.
 

Moviefan-2

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Hey, had to alter the quote and forge a comment from me, did you?
The number you predicted the planet wouldn't hit was 0.83ºC, the same number I said the globe would reach.
Neither of us used 0.89ºC, you are just being a lying weasel again.

You are batting .000, loser.
Still trying to claim that 0.74 + 0.15 = 0.83?

Ridiculous.
 
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