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Would you go to an Esalen massage seminar?

Would you go to an Esalen massage seminar?

  • Yes I would go

    Votes: 11 55.0%
  • No I would not go

    Votes: 7 35.0%
  • Unsure

    Votes: 2 10.0%
  • Open to the idea but not Esalen

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
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Yoga Face

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I mean a 20 hour serious weekend of hands on, cloths off to your comfort level, Esalen massage course with two caveats:

1 Attractive female models are provided to ensure proper male /female mix

2 For the purity of the poll, do not consider cost



Esalen massage is an extension of Swedish massage. While not overtly erotic, it is usually done nude and is meant to be sensuous

There is a school in Quebec, and other more exotic locals as well as Big Sur California where it originated.

I find myself puzzled why schools in sensuous/erotic massage are not more common, which is why I am doing this poll.


To be confident with your abilities to please a woman through massage seems a noble goal with many benefits.




 
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Done it at Big Sur as well as Rolfing would definitely consider it.

So, WTF was it like?

You seem satisfied with the experience.

It is a skill, and like most skills is very frustrating and tiring to learn. But, like all skills, once you have learned you are very satisfied. Would you agree?

It is basically Swedish massage, correct?

I assume Yoni massage is left out of the curriculum but what about breast massage?


Do you feel more confident with women knowing that you can please them as few men can?


Rolfing seems interesting, WTF was that like?

Lomi Lomi seems like another interesting massage.
 

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I wouldn't care about costs but for $1500 I can invite my favourite sp to my place for an overniter filled with blissful sensuality, wine, a lovely meal and memorable sexuality. Why would I want to leave home?????
 

Yoga Face

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I wouldn't care about costs but for $1500 I can invite my favourite sp to my place for an overniter filled with blissful sensuality, wine, a lovely meal and memorable sexuality. Why would I want to leave home?????
Because overnight means lots of time for a massage that will make her want to return the favor, but first you have to learn the skill of massage and it is a skill. That is why it takes 2 years to get your RMT certificate

A weekend seminar just a good start but is way more than most guys know so you are ahead of your competition
 

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My Esalen experience was over 30 years ago at the height of the Big Sur New Age period - Nepenthe was the place to dine organic and EST was the new religion. I mostly remembered it as more sensual than sexual. Touch, incredible sunshine, and views of the stunning coastline not to mention hallucinogenic drugs made the time pass both quickly and slowly. I learned basic massage techniques for pressure points, what we now call reflexology crystals and reflex points, and tantric massage. I often use the techniques I learn as a prelude along with a special massage oil I learned to make.
 

Yoga Face

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My Esalen experience was over 30 years ago at the height of the Big Sur New Age period - Nepenthe was the place to dine organic and EST was the new religion. I mostly remembered it as more sensual than sexual. Touch, incredible sunshine, and views of the stunning coastline not to mention hallucinogenic drugs made the time pass both quickly and slowly. I learned basic massage techniques for pressure points, what we now call reflexology crystals and reflex points, and tantric massage. I often use the techniques I learn as a prelude along with a special massage oil I learned to make.
It is a skill, and like most skills is very frustrating and tiring to learn. But, like all skills, once you have learned you are very satisfied. Would you agree?

I assume Yoni massage is left out of the curriculum but what about breast massage?


Do you feel more confident with women knowing that you can please them as few men can?
 
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Yoga Face

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So anybody in Toronto provide this?
Not that I can find

What I have found is some massage schools do have introductory classes meant to give prospective students an idea of what massage is like before they enroll and can be taken by anyone

There are also tantric weekends

That seminars in how to please your partner with sensuous/erotic massage is not offered in greater Toronto puzzles me

The purpose of this poll is to see if anyone would go to such a weekend seminar
 

Yoga Face

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A bump to see if I can create interest in the OP
 
I was trained in Esalen, have trained couples in groups etc but not for money. Esalen as trademarked the name so it can not be used commercially unless certified by Esalen Institute. It is swedish but more a caring for the person in addition to the body. Hard to explain. I do a rountine of it in 10 minutes with some classic moves most women really like and why I like doing at the nude-reverse adult rubs in Sauga.

Yes includes breasts, but no genital penetration, and nude.

Tantric mentioned above has nothing whatsoever to do with Esalen. Tantric is about the original Hindu idea of chackras and energy balancing. It can even be done without touching the body. All the deep breathing just makes me hyperventilate not relax :)
 

Yoga Face

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I was trained in Esalen, have trained couples in groups etc but not for money. Esalen as trademarked the name so it can not be used commercially unless certified by Esalen Institute. It is swedish but more a caring for the person in addition to the body. Hard to explain. I do a rountine of it in 10 minutes with some classic moves most women really like and why I like doing at the nude-reverse adult rubs in Sauga.

Yes includes breasts, but no genital penetration, and nude.

Tantric mentioned above has nothing whatsoever to do with Esalen. Tantric is about the original Hindu idea of chackras and energy balancing. It can even be done without touching the body. All the deep breathing just makes me hyperventilate not relax :)

I was hoping you would chime in. You are the resident expert.

The deep breathing in Tantra is done to control orgasm so males can last longer and even have multiple orgasms. From the vids I have watched massage is very much part of Tantra.

You do concur with me that learning massage like Esalen has many benefits, such as having the knowledge of how to please a woman. This must give you confidence with women.

Do you think the majority would benefit learning such massage ? or just a select romantic few?


There is a school in Quebec that offers a 28 day course to become an Esalen teacher, so I wonder why no Esalen teachers offer workshops in Toronto.

Do you think such workshops would be a viable business? Any idea why there are none?

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I was hoping you would chime in. You are the resident expert.
You do concur with me that learning massage like Esalen has many benefits, such as having the knowledge of how to please a woman. This must give you confidence with women. Do you think the majority would benefit learning such massage ? or just a select romantic few?
There is a school in Quebec that offers a 28 day course to become an Esalen teacher, so I wonder why no Esalen teachers offer workshops in Toronto. Do you think such workshops would be a viable business? Any idea why there are none?
I don't think most guys would need a 28-day course just to learn some basic moves etc. But yes I think many would benefit as I do and why I enjoy nude-reverse so much in Sauga.

The responses I get for zillions of massage gals show how rewarding it is. The "wows" The Gee you really know what you're doing. The I could have you do this all day, typical comments. And I believe its sincere not just to stroke (pardon the pun) my ego. And this is from the about 10-minute routine I do for the "reverse" part of the massage which anyone can learn.

I also get often great response from lap dancers not really doing Esalen (need a table) but the type of caring touch, some brief real muscle massaging backs and necks and most women like the right kind of breast massage - especially pecs. And breast massage is suggested by Sloan-Kettering Cancer Institute for breast cancer (I have a large article somewhere on my sites about it).

I have had lap dancer literally crying in my arms enjoying caring touch (part of Esalen) and often both in Canada and Phoenix "I wish my boyfriend/husband would touch like that." I am not trying to sound like gods gift to women, but my experiences in caring touch intimacy which Esalen is also based on, and the results I get. I have had dancers unpaid just sit in my lap wanting my massage to the point my hands are getting tired, and I'm getting bored :) Again the value of learning some very basic good touch skills.

In discussing with massage or lap dance gals especially related to breast massage, they tell me most guys just "grope and grab, or pinch" which turns them off vs. good breast massage. I also seek smaller breasted women (A-C) natural. For me, I love the feeling of full natural breasts hopefully as much as the gals enjoy my liking them :). I don't know what to do with big D's since can't really do the same way or the hardness of implants relative to naturals. I am starting to do pre-trip planning, and my first screening of various nude-reverse places in Sauga is smaller than D and natural (some sites indicate if natural or enhanced). Then I look for reviews for clues as to sensuality and quality touch (ideal is both good real massage and sensual intimacy - which is a lot different from typical rub and tug more typical in the U.S.).

I am told I also have an advantage of very soft hands - have no idea why they are more than most guys, just blessed with I guess. And don't to anything more manual with them then type all day computer... like here :)

Years ago here I offered to do short intros while in Toronto, but the problem is need a female model, massage table, and place. Sauga is the only time I get to practice since reverse is unhead of in the U.S.

A very nice young Asian guy contacted me here by PM. He rented a hotel room, rented a massage table (not sure where you rent in Toronto) and had a dancer girlfriend as the "model". It was supposed to be for an hour, but we went for 2+ hours and was great. He had kind of a natural talent for good touch intimacy. We mirrored each other on opposite sides of her body at times. He also had some really nice strokes I learned from. The dancer, of course, was like in heaven.

So yes, I think the right minded guy could benefit from leaning some skills if interested in more than just sex and had an interest in intimacy/caring touch which Esalen is based on combined with traditional Swedish working on muscles.
 

Yoga Face

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Extremely interesting

I have taken an intro to Swedish and as we sat in a circle to discuss our weekend experience the following was discussed (The teacher was European)

1 She said when European women come for a massage they assume their breasts will be massaged whereas Canadians see the breasts as erogenous zones and would never expect a breast massage

2 Massage for health and relaxation is very common in Europe but in Canada relaxation massage is associated with sex

3 Co-ed nudity is common in European saunas but draping is used during the massage

4 When her clients learn about the benefits of real massage they are very loyal and she has a huge client list




What you have said about sensuous massage is what I assumed, and I am happy to hear my assumptions are correct


Of course women do not like being groped! But they crave skilled touch. That they so seldom get skilled touch it is no surprise at all to me as no one has learned it and that they love it when it happens is to be expected.

This stuff should be part of school curriculum, but will not be because of prudish attitudes.
 
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