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Including the subject lie,...FAT AL also stated,...among numerous other lies,...that "the Arctic would be free of ice by 2014",..."polar bears would cease to exist",...but the population has actually increased,..."the increase in severe weather",...which is actually,... down,...you could write a book,...call it,..."How to make money in Climate Gate"

How many lies does it take to convince you,... that the spokesmen for the Climate Gate clubs is a perfect example of how they sustain their existence.

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Ok, lets see your sources for those quotes.
Because, being the ever so honest type I'm sure you spent the time to make sure they are all legit, right?

Did you let moviefan know its safe to come out of the basement yet?
Or is he just staying away out of embarrassment?
 

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Ok, lets see your sources for those quotes.
Because, being the ever so honest type I'm sure you spent the time to make sure they are all legit, right?
OK,... here's the deal,...judging by you performance with,... THE BET,...just what would you accept as a "source",...don't want to waste any more time on you than I already have.

If you can't come up with a category of source's you "believe" is satisfactory,...I'll understand,...you wouldn't want your hero's image tarnished.

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OK,... here's the deal,...judging by you performance with,... THE BET,...just what would you accept as a "source",...don't want to waste any more time on you than I already have.

If you can't come up with a category of source's you "believe" is satisfactory,...I'll understand,...you wouldn't want your hero's image tarnished.

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A legit source with direct quotes from Gore saying the same quotes you claimed he said.
Its pretty easy.

Just like the bet would be really easy if moviefan would either keep his word or refrain from 'denier math'.
Find these quotes you claimed he said:
"the Arctic would be free of ice by 2014"
"polar bears would cease to exist"
"the increase in severe weather" (that one should be easy, as its quite obviously true)

Should be easy, no?
 

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A legit source with direct quotes from Gore saying the same quotes you claimed he said.
Its pretty easy.
You haven't answered,...but no surprise there,...just what the hell is a "legit source".

Would you accept the Noble Prize Organisation as meeting you requirements,...???

And if yes,...will you then STFU,...defending Fat AL,...and the UNEMPLOYABLE CLUBS,...???

And as far as creative math goes,...you can't beat, NASA, NOAA and IPCC,... they are the very best.

But I'm sure you are going to come with some BULL SHIT,...like,..."those aren't the exact words he used",...when I'm proven right,....so I'm not holding my breath assuming you will be a man about this.


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Frankfooter

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But I'm sure you are going to come with some BULL SHIT,...like,..."those aren't the exact words he used",..

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Shall we start with the premise then that you those weren't "quotes", they were you paraphrasing a denier article that didn't use quotes either?
Only problem is you used quotation marks.
 

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Shall we start with the premise then that you those weren't "quotes", they were you paraphrasing a denier article that didn't use quotes either?
Only problem is you used quotation marks.
With regards to the Arctic ice,..."that it could be completely gone by",...that is NOT paraphrasing,...but I'll understand that you would not accept that phrase,...considering your track record.

And your climate gate sites, NASA, NOAA and IPCC have any more credibility,...than other scientists who have proven your clubs wrong,...???

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With regards to the Arctic ice,..."that it could be completely gone by",...that is NOT paraphrasing,...but I'll understand that you would not accept that phrase,...considering your track record.

And your climate gate sites, NASA, NOAA and IPCC have any more credibility,...than other scientists who have proven your clubs wrong,...???

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Ok, show me your sources, since you are sure they are legit and the quotations accurate.
I'm sure we'll find that you're continuing your track record of trying to pass off shit.
 

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Ok, show me your sources, since you are sure they are legit and the quotations accurate.
I'm sure we'll find that you're continuing your track record of trying to pass off shit.
I'll show you the source,...IF and when you accept that phrase,...the phrase is exactly word for word,..."that it could be completely gone by"

With the closing, complete sentence on the subject,...repeating for emphasis,...by Fat scum Al,..."Seven years from now.",... EXACT words.

Waiting,...but not holding my breath,...

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USA Today, Dec. 14, 2009 -- Gore: Polar ice cap may disappear by summer 2014:

http://content.usatoday.com/communi...ummer-ice-cap-as-early-as-2014/1#.Vqli-lJZByh

"Some of the models suggest that there is a 75 percent chance that the entire north polar ice cap during some of the summer months will be completely ice-free within the next five to seven years," Gore said.

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An Inconvenient Truth, released in 2006 -- Animation that shows a polar bear drowning due to lack of ice:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whWvXkK0HJ8

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Al Gore's 24 Hours of Reality: The Dirty Weather Report, Nov. 14, 2012 -- Gore says: "Now we find ourselves living in—what the scientists call—a new normal of more extreme weather."

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2012/11/14/live-al-gores-dirty-weather-report

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Sources have been provided that confirm that FAST was correct about every one of the statements attributed to Gore. We'll now wait to see whether Frankfooter apologizes to FAST for his false accusations.
 

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What gore actually said was that some models show a 75% chance that some ice shit will be completely gone in 5-7 years.

Technically he is not wrong, as he used "some models" and "75% chance". However, this is why you want a scientist rather than a politician to represent science, politicians will say anything to get what they want, a real scientist would have probably said something like, "some extreme models predict that there is a high probably that ice dildos will be gone in 5-7 years" and then he would go on to qualify his statements by speaking about the to the median predictions and predictions on the opposite end of the spectrum.

It is like donald trump saying some mexicans are rapists, which is obviously true and goes without saying and he could say the same about any group of people, why he targeted mexicans rather than another racial group is purely political. Just like why al gore spoke about one extreme spectrum of the models and not the other.
 

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frankfooter disappeared
Oh he will be back with,..."that's not what he meant",...like when Fat Al stated he invented the internet.

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What gore actually said was that some models show a 75% chance that some ice shit will be completely gone in 5-7 years.

Technically he is not wrong, as he used "some models" and "75% chance".
Point noted.

However, Frankfooter claimed that Gore never made the statement.
 

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What gore actually said was that some models show a 75% chance that some ice shit will be completely gone in 5-7 years.

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No,...that is NOT what he said, ...he said exactly what I quoted.

And when footer comes up out of his mothers basement,...I will provide the VERY credible source.

I do sorta agree with you about who should be making statements as these,...considering he was NOT a politician at the time,...but a business man.
And climate gate was his business.

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No,...that is NOT what he said, ...he said exactly what I quoted.

And when footer comes up out of his mothers basement,...I will provide the VERY credible source.

I do sorta agree with you about who should be making statements as these,...considering he was NOT a politician at the time,...but a business man.
And climate gate was his business.

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Yes he said exactly what you quoted, I was just quoting what I remembered.

I think everyone knows the credible source.

Once a politician, always a politician, it is like sucking a cock, you do it once and you are known for life as a cock sucker.
 

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Yes he said exactly what you quoted, I was just quoting what I remembered.

I think everyone knows the credible source.

Once a politician, always a politician, it is like sucking a cock, you do it once and you are known for life as a cock sucker.
Yep, got to agree on that, being a politician was perfect training for his new career.

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Frankfooter

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USA Today, Dec. 14, 2009 -- Gore: Polar ice cap may disappear by summer 2014:

http://content.usatoday.com/communi...ummer-ice-cap-as-early-as-2014/1#.Vqli-lJZByh

"Some of the models suggest that there is a 75 percent chance that the entire north polar ice cap during some of the summer months will be completely ice-free within the next five to seven years," Gore said.
Oh look, the weasel is posting here now, you've given up on the bet now have you?
Time for a reminder.

As for the quote, that's quite different from the not so fast quote:
"the Arctic would be free of ice by 2014"

Fail #1.



An Inconvenient Truth, released in 2006 -- Animation that shows a polar bear drowning due to lack of ice:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whWvXkK0HJ8
So an image of a single polar bear drowning is turned into an imaginary quote about the death of all polar bears?
"polar bears would cease to exist"

Fail #2 - It appears Gore did not say anything near the words in quotation marks not so fast claimed he said.



Al Gore's 24 Hours of Reality: The Dirty Weather Report, Nov. 14, 2012 -- Gore says: "Now we find ourselves living in—what the scientists call—a new normal of more extreme weather."

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2012/11/14/live-al-gores-dirty-weather-report
Here's a chart from hottwhopper that measures extreme weather events.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-MdnwqBRWAYk/VQeyFkI3lRI/AAAAAAAAINg/KSA0fYRzzm0/s1600/MunichRe2015.png

I haven't checked the quote, that one sounds more reasonable and in fact accurate.

Sources have been provided that confirm that FAST was correct about every one of the statements attributed to Gore. We'll now wait to see whether Frankfooter apologizes to FAST for his false accusations.
Coming from the man who has a 0.01% chance of being correct in his views that the climate change we are experiencing is 'natural', I find that very funny.
Odds of moviefan being correct in his claim that all climate change we are experiencing is natural, as he likes to say.
0.01%
http://www.theguardian.com/environme...e-change-study


So not so fast can't do research, and moviefan just provides more crap.
Typical.
 

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So not so fast can't do research,...
Typical.
So footer,...is that your response to my post,...

I'll show you the source,...IF and when you accept that phrase,...the phrase is exactly word for word,..."that it could be completely gone by"

With the closing, complete sentence on the subject,...repeating for emphasis,...by Fat scum Al,..."Seven years from now.",... EXACT words.

Waiting,...but not holding my breath,...

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Still waiting,...but not expecting a intelligent response,...

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Yep, got to agree on that, being a politician was perfect training for his new career.

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Obviously he failed at that training or maybe just didn't pay attention. A good politician never commits himself to definite, quantifiable results.
 

Frankfooter

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So footer,...is that your response to my post,...



Still waiting,...but not expecting a intelligent response,...

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Is that really what you call research?
Did you fail high school, its obvious you've never had much education, but this is really pathetic.

Two partial sentences without any sources?
Those partial, unattributed quotes could be anything, as in:
Donald Trumps hair is so poorly glued on "that it could be completely gone by" the end of a press conference.
"Seven years from now" FAST will have finished his matchbook cover English for dummies course.

Those were the quotes, correct?
 
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