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silk123

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Congratulations to Obama for taking a stand on gun violence, he was very emotional during his speech.

Thanks Obama for your courageous leadership, the US is in desperate need for gun control, today was a critical step.

The political rhetoric is so frustrating, NRA is already condemning his speech - REALLY. Did they actually listen to his speech.

"Fairfax, Va. – The executive director of the National Rifle Association's Institute for Legislative Action, Chris W. Cox, released the following statement on Tuesday regarding President Barack Obama's Executive Gun Control Order:

Once again, President Obama has chosen to engage in political rhetoric, instead of offering meaningful solutions to our nation's pressing problems. Today's event also represents an ongoing attempt to distract attention away from his lack of a coherent strategy to keep the American people safe from terrorist attack.

The American people do not need more emotional, condescending lectures that are completely devoid of facts. The men and women of the National Rifle Association take a back seat to no one when it comes to keeping our communities safe. But the fact is that President Obama's proposals would not have prevented any of the horrific events he mentioned. The timing of this announcement, in the eighth and final year of his presidency, demonstrates not only political exploitation but a fundamental lack of seriousness.

The proposed executive actions are ripe for abuse by the Obama Administration, which has made no secret of its contempt for the Second Amendment. The NRA will continue to fight to protect the fundamental, individual Right to Keep and Bear Arms as guaranteed under our Constitution. We will not allow law-abiding gun owners to be harassed or intimidated for engaging in lawful, constitutionally-protected activity – nor will we allow them to become scapegoats for President Obama's failed policies.
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jcpro

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If he was serious, he'd engage the Congress on the issue. What's needed is bipartisan support to move forward. Politically inspired executive orders are not worth the paper they're printed on. What this president does not understand is that he's a head of the executive branch-not legislative. The president is not a king. If he wants a legislation, he needs to go to the legislature. As it is, this "progress" will only last as long as the Democrat holds the WH.
 

Aardvark154

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He didn't cry when talking about terrorist murders in Paris or San Bernardino, nor when discussing the situation of Christians in Syria and Iraq.

Likewise I doubt you want to put any money against this latest overreach of executive authority being struck down by the courts.
 

Big Sleazy

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjSx61U6ALE

Watch this video and explain to me why anybody would give up their guns ? And why would President "O" ( zero ) try and restrict guns in this environment. Or maybe it's because the American people are starting to wake up how the WH, Congress, Senate, and the Banks totally screwed them over during the Mortgage Backed Security BS ala " The Big Short "... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWr8hbUkG9s

Perhaps they've realized that the people are waking up to the criminals behind " The Big Short " and 9-11. And now they've realized vengeance is a bitch.....
 

silk123

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If he was serious, he'd engage the Congress on the issue. What's needed is bipartisan support to move forward. Politically inspired executive orders are not worth the paper they're printed on. What this president does not understand is that he's a head of the executive branch-not legislative. The president is not a king. If he wants a legislation, he needs to go to the legislature. As it is, this "progress" will only last as long as the Democrat holds the WH.
I will never understand this loyal and committed attitude when it comes to politics: republican vs democrat, liberal vs conservative, etc. It clouds the real issues for subsequent change.

Do you agree or disagree with what Obama said:
- Anybody in the business of selling firearms must get license, conduct backgroud checks
- Expanding background checks to cover violent criminals
- Making the violent check system more efficient
- New investments for mental health access

Thank You Obama for taking action on gun violence!!!!!!
 

IM469

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I will never understand this loyal and committed attitude when it comes to politics: republican vs democrat, liberal vs conservative, etc. It clouds the real issues for subsequent change.

Do you agree or disagree with what Obama said:
- Anybody in the business of selling firearms must get license, conduct background checks
- Expanding background checks to cover violent criminals
- Making the violent check system more efficient
- New investments for mental health access

Thank You Obama for taking action on gun violence!!!!!!
After 20 school children ages 6 & 7 were shot point blank there was over 80% support on at least a minimal background checks on gun sales which gutless politicians paid off by the gun lobby defeated. In three years, even the most common sense restrictions on the sale of guns was defeated. There is more control and regulations operating a vehicle than owning a firearm. When a Sandy Hook father who is a gun owner and avid hunter petitioned the government to regulate assault rifles and prevent mentally ill people from obtaining guns, right wingnuts were calling him a traitor and anti-american.

What I find telling about the intellectual prowess of many of these gun supporters is that they are bigots against all Muslims because of an isolated terrorist might be among them but they are unwilling to lift a finger to curb the rampant 30,000 annual gun deaths occurring right now. Actually upon reflection, I can see why many are afraid of restrictions based on mental health issues ...
 

Insidious Von

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Hollywood grows a pair Miss Sloane has been green lit, Jessica Chastain is going the 0 Dark 30 route again.

This time she's taking on a far more dangerous terrorist group than IS: the NRA. John Madden (Mrs Brown, The Debt) will direct.

 

jcpro

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I will never understand this loyal and committed attitude when it comes to politics: republican vs democrat, liberal vs conservative, etc. It clouds the real issues for subsequent change.

Do you agree or disagree with what Obama said:
- Anybody in the business of selling firearms must get license, conduct backgroud checks
- Expanding background checks to cover violent criminals
- Making the violent check system more efficient
- New investments for mental health access

Thank You Obama for taking action on gun violence!!!!!!
What BS.
Gun retailers already are required to get license.
Criminals already cannot legally purchase firearms
Purchasers already go through background checks(Gabrielle Giffords' shooter passed it)
BTW, none of these restrictions would have stopped any of the recent shootings.
The best measure of effectiveness to Obama's effort was the reaction of the NRA. They shrugged their shoulders. The rest of the opposition is of the Constitutional nature - the executive overreach-which, in due time, will be tested in court. And that is the real issue. Any meaningful reform must be practical, enforceable, constitutional and effective. And above all, it must be approved by the legislative branch in a bipartisan vote. What we saw today was just window dressing by a petulant kid who knows not how to play nice with others.
 

jcpro

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Hollywood grows a pair Miss Sloane has been green lit, Jessica Chastain is going the 0 Dark 30 route again.

This time she's taking on a far more dangerous terrorist group than IS: the NRA. John Madden (Mrs Brown, The Debt) will direct.
I smell another activist flop.
 

SkyRider

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Americans will never give up their guns because they are concerned that a future American president might send in federal troops to destroy their plantation and free the slaves.
 

cunning linguist

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After 20 school children ages 6 & 7 were shot point blank there was over 80% support on at least a minimal background checks on gun sales which gutless politicians paid off by the gun lobby defeated. In three years, even the most common sense restrictions on the sale of guns was defeated. There is more control and regulations operating a vehicle than owning a firearm. When a Sandy Hook father who is a gun owner and avid hunter petitioned the government to regulate assault rifles and prevent mentally ill people from obtaining guns, right wingnuts were calling him a traitor and anti-american.

What I find telling about the intellectual prowess of many of these gun supporters is that they are bigots against all Muslims because of an isolated terrorist might be among them but they are unwilling to lift a finger to curb the rampant 30,000 annual gun deaths occurring right now. Actually upon reflection, I can see why many are afraid of restrictions based on mental health issues ...
80% of a cherry picked sample size doesn't mean squat. As for the terrorism comparison, don't let hypocrisy get in the way of your shitty argument.

 

IM469

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80% of a cherry picked sample size doesn't mean squat. As for the terrorism comparison, don't let hypocrisy get in the way of your shitty argument.

Bingo - a perfect example of a right wingnut ad ! The reality is the exact opposite. These are bigots who are raising a stink about all muslims and screening out the terrorists but after 30,000 gun deaths - don't want any screening to weed out the psychos. The sheer irony of this ad ... it's an insult to the intelligence of all americans.
 

cunning linguist

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Bingo - a perfect example of a right wingnut ad ! The reality is the exact opposite. These are bigots who are raising a stink about all muslims and screening out the terrorists but after 30,000 gun deaths - don't want any screening to weed out the psychos. The sheer irony of this ad ... it's an insult to the intelligence of all gun owners.
Which was a mirror image to your idiocy, but don't let your agenda blind you.
 

John Henry

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Exactly ... The US have plenty of gun laws on the books . Enforce those laws that are already there . What's the problem . Add more laws to existing laws is not going to do anything at all . Most of the gun sales are screened . You can't order a gun on line in the US unless your properly checked out . He wants to stop people on the No Fly List from purchasing a gun . That list is fucked . Many good citizens are on that list and they don't even know how they got on it . There isn't even away to get off that list . Some members of Congress are on that list . This goes to show you how things are screwed up in the US . Recently a young kid wanted to go on holidays with his parents to the US . They are Canadian citizens who live in Canada . The kid is on the No Fly List . How does that happen . He's 6 years old , I believe .

There are 2 government members that want to limit the amount of ammo a person can purchase in New York State . It's like 10 bullets at 1 time . As well a limit one can purchase in a year . This is how fucked up some of these government officials are. Really one can go to a range and shoot a 100 shells in 1 day . Hoods are not going to abide by this law .

It's just a matter of treating gun owners like they are criminals . Yet we hear that some people are afraid of Muslim immigrants because they might be terrorists . Can't do that . Can we . Can't group all Muslims into 1 bracket but there is no problem in doing that with law bidding citizens who are legal gun owners.

Most of the mass shooting in the US are in No Gun Zones . Soft targets . Gee I wonder why is that . Maybe because the shooters know that no one there will be shooting back at them.

Just incase some of you don't know what is an assault rifle . It's not the AK 47 which we can't own in Canada or the AR 15 civilian models . They are semi - automatic which is not an assault rifle . It's very hard to get a permit to own an assault rifle in the US or Canada which are fully automatic . Just because something looks scary doesn't mean it's dangerous .

Some of you who are calling these guns assault rifles have no idea what your talking about . Go to a gun club and just see how normal everyday legal citizens are enjoying themselves . It's a lot safer there then hanging out in some bar hanging around a bunch of drunks .

Many of these gun deaths are done by gangs killing each other . They don't follow any laws . What good are more laws if they don't enforce the laws that are already on the books.
 
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