How do we eradicate Islamic terrorism?

[JamesDouglas]

We've all heard Trump's idea on how to keep America safe from Islamic terrorists i.e. ban all Muslims from entering the US, close down mosques, make all American Muslims part of a national registry, making Muslims put their religion on national ID cards etc., which are all extreme ideas, but does anyone else have any other ideas that would actually work?

What Trump is saying is that not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslim, so in order to keep America safe he has to profile all Muslims and keep them out, which would stop all terrorists from coming in, but in the process would also punish all innocent Muslims. Unfair, but effective in keeping Americans safe. It's like using a shotgun to kill a fly, but how else can you specifically target the Muslims who are terrorists? If you ask them on an immigration interview if they're a terrorist or support Jihad, they'll obviously say no, so it's a bit pointless, you'll never be able to screen out the terrorists.

What are your thoughts? How do you eradicate Islamic terrorism?

 

[destillat]

Yeah, because Muslim terrorists aren't going to pretend they are not Muslim to avoid the ban?

 

[JamesDouglas]

Yeah, because Muslim terrorists aren't going to pretend they are not Muslim to avoid the ban?

Make them eat pork or drink alcohol to prove they're not Muslim? Make them curse the Koran and Muhammad? These are things a Muslim terrorist would never do. Trump will not become president, ever, so this "Muslim ban" will never come into effect. My question is, how can Muslim terrorists be specifically targeted without collectively punishing all innocent Muslims.

 

[destillat]

Make them eat pork or drink alcohol to prove they're not Muslim? Make them curse the Koran and Muhammad? These are things a Muslim terrorist would never do. Trump will not become president, ever, so this "Muslim ban" will never come into effect. My question is, how can Muslim terrorists be specifically targeted without collectively punishing all innocent Muslims.

So they will blow themselves up, blow their wife up, blow their child up... but they would never eat a BLT to prove to some glassy-eyed, donut-eating immigration officer that they were not Muslim to further 'a greater good'? Give your head a shake.

 

[oil&gas]

Stop buying their oil, starting with Saudi Arabia.

 

[JamesDouglas]

So they will blow themselves up, blow their wife up, blow their child up... but they would never eat a BLT to prove to some glassy-eyed, donut-eating immigration officer that they were not Muslim to further 'a greater good'? Give your head a shake.

Actually, yes. They never would eat a BLT. Eating a BLT is strictly prohibited by the Koran, but in their interpretation of the Koran, blowing up infidels for Allah is the greatest deed they can possibly do.

 

[|2 /-\ | /|/]

Koran is an enabler with specific instructions to hate infidels and encourages criminal activity such as murder.

Many muslins will not do this, commit murder or openly hate infidels, however it is always in the back of their minds, these instructions. Eventually, when strength in numbers affects a countries political system, someone will introduce Sharia law...it will get voted down once, twice and maybe at the 10th time it will get passed because strength in numbers and westerners are not reproducing fast enough.

Ask yourself this question how can one say they are Muslims and ignore the teaching of the Koran. This is just hypocritical on their behalf. They are very faithful followers, I give them credit for this, pray 5 times a day, fast during Ramadan, ect...the Koran is their guidance. If they are a true Muslim the won't like non Muslims otherwise they are hippocrates. If they like us, they are just fake Muslims. Some hardcore Christians are the same way and don't like non Christians.

So how do you stop this. Well simple in principal, ban all religion that instructs hate, and criminal activity until they can make amendments to take out these scriptures. Treat every religion equal, and make them follow the same standard. Will this ever happen, hello no, as hell will likely freeze over before this happens.

So what do we do...well hope for the best. Hope they assimilate into our society, be good to them show them love and compassion and maybe we will see this somehow returned. Maybe love is stronger then religion. Who knows. I see no other way. Religion is all about control, and smart people know this thus use it for political gain, power and control. This is why religion was originally created as a means to control the masses through our spiritual vulnerability.

 

[JamesDouglas]

Koran is an enabler with specific instructions to hate infidels and encourages criminal activity such as murder.

Many muslins will not do this, commit murder or openly hate infidels, however it is always in the back of their minds, these instructions. Eventually, when strength in numbers affects a countries political system, someone will introduce Sharia law...it will get voted down once, twice and maybe at the 10th time it will get passed because strength in numbers and westerners are not reproducing fast enough.

Ask yourself this question how can one say they are Muslims and ignore the teaching of the Koran. This is just hypocritical on their behalf. They are very faithful followers, I give them credit for this, pray 5 times a day, fast during Ramadan, ect...the Koran is their guidance. If they are a true Muslim the won't like non Muslims otherwise they are hippocrates. If they like us, they are just fake Muslims. Some hardcore Christians are the same way and don't like non Christians.

So how do you stop this. Well simple in principal, ban all religion that instructs hate, and criminal activity until they can make amendments to take out these scriptures. Treat every religion equal, and nake them follow the same standard. Will this ever happen, hello no, as hell will likely freeze over before this happens.

So what do we do...well hope for the best. Hope they assimilate into our society, be good to them show them love and compassion and maybe we will see this somehow returned. Maybe love is stronger then religion. Who knows. I see no other way. Religion is all about control, and smart people know this thus use it for political gain, power and control. This is why religion was originally created as a means to control the masses through our spiritual vulnerability.

Well said, I agree. Unfortunately in our politically correct society, even if a religious book preaches hate, violence and murder it will not be banned, or amended over fears of offending a "religious minority".

 

[destillat]

Actually, yes. They never would eat a BLT. Eating a BLT is strictly prohibited by the Koran, but in their interpretation of the Koran, blowing up infidels for Allah is the greatest deed they can possibly do.

Ya, let me know how that outlook works out for you.
Last week a courier going across the Chunnel hung pork from the back of his rig to try to prevent Muslim migrants from trying to steal a ride into the UK. Guess how that worked out for him?
If you think that these people aren't willing to bend the rules, go for it... live in ignorance... at least it's bliss, right?

Blowing up infidels? What about blowing up their offspring?

 

[FAST]

Sorry, we didn't mean it,...

Make them eat pork or drink alcohol to prove they're not Muslim? Make them curse the Koran and Muhammad? These are things a Muslim terrorist would never do. Trump will not become president, ever, so this "Muslim ban" will never come into effect. My question is, how can Muslim terrorists be specifically targeted without collectively punishing all innocent Muslims.

Good posting, James.

This is EXACTLY what is behind out of control Trump is trying to accomplish by his knowingly unworkable solution.

How the hell can the world fix this, without further damaging relations with the Muslim culture.

Bringing over 25,000 Syrians with cell phones, while completely ignoring peoples in much more dire conditions, only solidifies the INCORRECT assumption that Canada is responsible for the Syrians plight.

This stupidity does NOT help, but actually makes the current relationship worst, and also encourages hostile feelings toward the west, Canada, included.

FAST

 

[JamesDouglas]

Another option is to not target people i.e. do not target Muslims, instead target the ideology, Islam. If Islam did not exist, if the Koran did not exist, there would be no Islamic terrorism. All of the 1.6 billion Muslims around the world would no longer be "Muslim", they would just be "people." People who would not feel compelled to blow themselves up, shoot innocent people, behead infidels. There is nothing inherently violent about Arabs, Pakistanis, Afghans, Somalis etc., they're just regular people. Do you ever see Christian Arabs blow themselves up, or commit acts of terrorism? Of course not. Take away the ideology, and you take away the terrorism, that's what it's about. Do not target people, target the ideology.

 

[destillat]

Another option is to not target people i.e. do not target Muslims, instead target the ideology, Islam. If Islam did not exist, if the Koran did not exist, there would be no Islamic terrorism. All of the 1.6 billion Muslims around the world would no longer be "Muslim", they would just be "people." People who would not feel compelled to blow themselves up, shoot innocent people, behead infidels. There is nothing inherently violent about Arabs, Pakistanis, Afghans, Somalis etc., they're just regular people. Do you ever see Christian Arabs blow themselves up, or commit acts of terrorism? Of course not. Take away the ideology, and you take away the terrorism, that's what it's about. Do not target people, target the ideology.

So you want to eliminate the Quran?

 

[JamesDouglas]

So you want to eliminate the Quran?

It doesn't have to be eliminated if as |2 /-\ | /|/ mentioned above, amendments are made to the scriptures whereby all of the hatred and incitement of violence against infidels is removed. Or do you believe that all of those violent and hateful verses should remain?

 

[destillat]

It doesn't have to be eliminated if as |2 /-\ | /|/ mentioned above, amendments are made to the scriptures whereby all of the hatred and incitement of violence against infidels is removed. Or do you believe that all of those violent and hateful verses should remain?

1.6 billion Muslims worldwide and you want to desecrate their most holy book?
Is this a serious thread?

 

[JamesDouglas]

1.6 billion Muslims worldwide and you want to desecrate their most holy book?
Is this a serious thread?

So you're saying that the violent hateful verses should remain? Shameful.

 

[destillat]

So you're saying that the violent hateful verses should remain? Shameful.

Are you a Christian?

 

[mmouse]

You can be sure that some of the world's smartest people are pondering the same question. Sadly, there is probably no solution.

 

[bishop]

You solve it by addressing their concerns; get the military/CIA out of Muslim countries, stop supporting dictators, stop supporting Saudi Arabia, stop mindless support of Israel, remove US bases from muslim countries, stop trying to install democracy and overthrowing arab governments.

Build the keystone pipeline, drill the sh*t out of alaska, if need be then bring back f*cking coal, we need to get off arab oil and we just walk away from the shit storm which is the middle east.

 

[JamesDouglas]

Are you a Christian?

I was raised Catholic but not do not believe in religion, period.

 

[destillat]

I was raised Catholic but not do not believe in religion, period.

Fair enough...
I don't necessarily disagree with your general views... I just feel like your suggestions are unreachable and unsustainable.
Think about it... how would things fare if there was an attempt to remove every violent verse from the Bible?