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The article says no such thing
Yes it does. It says EXACTLY that thing, it says "big Jew" held a metaphorical gun to the heads of the Nazis and forced them to kill "little Jew". It is right there in the article from the site you are defending, attributed with the same byline as the article you promoted.

Exactly like Hitler blaming the Jews for killing Jesus.
Nobody gives a shit what wacko beliefs Hitler or anybody else held. He is reviled for planning and implementing the holocaust. But nice try reducing the holocaust to a dispute over beliefs as opposed to the physical manifestation of evil that it was
 

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No he didn't, liar, he claimed the Mufti of Jerusalem suggested the idea. That in no way reduces any blame whatsoever from the Nazis, unlike your hate site which suggested the Nazis only carried out the holocaust because Jews put a gun to their head and forced them to do it (your hate site's article literally says "big Jew " put a gun to the Nazis head and forced them to kill "little Jew").



The hate article is attributed to the same source as the one you linked, the byline says "GPD", which if you click it is listed as being postings from as general postings from the editorial board of the site itself.

And you still haven't denounced the site.
The so called hate site is quite clear that the NAZIs are not free of culpability, so what you say is another lie.....
 

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Yes it does. It says EXACTLY that thing, it says "big Jew" held a metaphorical gun to the heads of the Nazis and forced them to kill "little Jew". It is right there in the article from the site you are defending, attributed with the same byline as the article you promoted.



Nobody gives a shit what wacko beliefs Hitler or anybody else held. He is reviled for planning and implementing the holocaust. But nice try reducing the holocaust to a dispute over beliefs as opposed to the physical manifestation of evil that it was
Ahh so now its "metaphorical..... " so funny how you omit massive details like that. I said it was an evil act so yet another lie. Wow so many lies, omissions and exaggerations. Maybe you should create a pro zionist hate site, you have all the leanings. It is not really about what Hitlers beliefs were, but about some decisions about the Allied and Jewish leaders.
 

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Ahh so now its "metaphorical..... " so funny how you omit massive details like that. I said it was an evil act so yet another lie. Wow so many lies, omissions and exaggerations. Maybe you should create a pro zionist hate site, you have all the leanings. It is not really about what Hitlers beliefs were, but about some decisions about the Allied and Jewish leaders.
Here is what you are supporting:

"Finally, what about the role of the Nazis in all of this? Surely they share a portion of blame. Yes they do, but not as much as one has been pre-conditioned and indoctrinated to believe. I like to use the analogy of a man holding a handgun to the head of a near-sighted victim. The man represents a Big Zionist/Allied figure; the handgun represents a Nazi-figure; and the cowering, near-sighted, and kneeling victim is a Little Jew Holocaust-figure. The victim can only see what is immediately in front of his face, the Luger/Nazi-figure; the victim does not see the figure who has his hand on the Luger’s trigger, the Big Zionist Jew. This is how I have come to understand the Holocaust"
 

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Yet you are willing to believe that Jews have culpability for the Holocaust.
and where did I say this? Of course some jews committed some appalling acts under the most appalling conditions, but I would say any Jewish victims bore any culpability.
 

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Here is what you are supporting:

"Finally, what about the role of the Nazis in all of this? Surely they share a portion of blame. Yes they do, but not as much as one has been pre-conditioned and indoctrinated to believe. I like to use the analogy of a man holding a handgun to the head of a near-sighted victim. The man represents a Big Zionist/Allied figure; the handgun represents a Nazi-figure; and the cowering, near-sighted, and kneeling victim is a Little Jew Holocaust-figure. The victim can only see what is immediately in front of his face, the Luger/Nazi-figure; the victim does not see the figure who has his hand on the Luger’s trigger, the Big Zionist Jew. This is how I have come to understand the Holocaust"
You keep saying I support it, yet you have not provided one quote where I say I believe this is what happened. I do support the right to free speech. That comes with the good, bad and ugly. Another part of the article talks about a how the President of the Zionist organization of America forbade the sending of care packages to interned Jews. Not sure if this was true, but I sure as hell would want to know why, and if so, he is culpable to a degree for the starvation of some jews.
 

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You keep saying I support it, yet you have not provided one quote where I say I believe this is what happened. I do support the right to free speech. That comes with the good, bad and ugly. Another part of the article talks about a how the President of the Zionist organization of America forbade the sending of care packages to interned Jews. Not sure if this was true, but I sure as hell would want to know why, and if so, he is culpable to a degree for the starvation of some jews.
You keep saying you haven't said you support it and then you keep on defending it. Now here you are again citing it and defending it. But despite linking to the site, calling it credible, and repeatedly defending the content, as you do here, you claim you haven't said you support it. Talk about doublespeak!

Any decent person would have denounced it.

You really are racist as fuck
 

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You keep saying you haven't said you support it and then you keep on defending it. Now here you are again citing it and defending it. But despite linking to the site, calling it credible, and repeatedly defending the content, as you do here, you claim you haven't said you support it. Talk about doublespeak!

Any decent person would have denounced it.

You really are racist as fuck
You bring up some choice quotes so I bring some up. I did not even read it until you promoted it. I have to admit there are some aspects of the article that did pique my curiosity and would not have read it without your mouth foaming diatribe. Like I said if the article was 100% true or if I believed it was true, I would actually feel more sympathy for the Jewish victims of the Holocaust and not really any hatred. So I am not sure why you call it a hate article. So well done, if you considered this article a hate article you have done a GREAT JOB promoting it. !!! Hmm I wonder if you are a highly manipulative anti-semite using reverse psychology....hmmmmmmmm:Eek::hand:
 

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and where did I say this? Of course some jews committed some appalling acts under the most appalling conditions, but I would say any Jewish victims bore any culpability.
I would guess that the underlined section is a typo but you already stated that you are willing to consider the ridiculous claims from the hate site and are already exposed.
 

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You keep saying I support it, yet you have not provided one quote where I say I believe this is what happened. I do support the right to free speech. That comes with the good, bad and ugly. Another part of the article talks about a how the President of the Zionist organization of America forbade the sending of care packages to interned Jews. Not sure if this was true, but I sure as hell would want to know why, and if so, he is culpable to a degree for the starvation of some jews.
The Nazis were not simply letting Jews starve because there wasn't enough food. There were systematically slaughtering Jews. Do you think that any aid packages would have reached the camps? You once again show you are willing to accept any excuse to blame Jews instead of the ones slaughtering them.

It would be like sending aid packages to ISIS for the Yazidi.

... I have to admit there are some aspects of the article that did pique my curiosity...
And yet another admission that you back that anti-Jewish conspiracy site.
 

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The Nazis were not simply letting Jews starve because there wasn't enough food. There were systematically slaughtering Jews. Do you think that any aid packages would have reached the camps? You once again show you are willing to accept any excuse to blame Jews instead of the ones slaughtering them.

It would be like sending aid packages to ISIS for the Yazidi.


And yet another admission that you back that anti-Jewish conspiracy site.
I am not surprised how you remain so pro Israeli. You are just a fanatic, and fanatics are not open to any information then what they believe. Anything else is HERESY!!! HATE !!! Just the same as all the Islamist fanatics out there. Anything that contradicts their perception of reality they just dismiss. I am a skeptic. I consider things but want to see proof. All you offer is dismissal with no proof. All news and publication has an agenda. There are only versions of the truth, no such thing as the gods honest truth.
 

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...You are just a fanatic, ....
Yes, I do get fanatical when people ignore well supported facts and instead subscribe to hateful conspiracy theories like you do. You want to intentionally ignore the widely accepted view on the Holocaust that is supported by a endless amount of evidence and instead are happy to consider any conspiracy theory about Jews. The fact that instead of defending your claims you try to change the topic to attacks on others shows it all.

You claimed that Jews who refused to fund Nazi Germany supplies are culpable for Jewish deaths in the Holocaust. You ignore the whole part that Jews weren't starving to death because Germany was short on food but rather because Germany was intentionally slaughtering them. You clearly refuse to be accountable for your ridiculous claims or even willing to admit that you are clearly wrong on this. Instead you stick to your conspiracy theory on this because it fits your world view.

Do you think Canada is culpable in the deaths of the Yazidi because we didn't send aid packages to ISIS for them?
 

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You bring up some choice quotes so I bring some up. I did not even read it until you promoted it. I have to admit there are some aspects of the article that did pique my curiosity and would not have read it without your mouth foaming diatribe. Like I said if the article was 100% true or if I believed it was true, I would actually feel more sympathy for the Jewish victims of the Holocaust and not really any hatred. So I am not sure why you call it a hate article. So well done, if you considered this article a hate article you have done a GREAT JOB promoting it. !!! Hmm I wonder if you are a highly manipulative anti-semite using reverse psychology....hmmmmmmmm:Eek::hand:
You linked that site, I pointed out that it was an antisemitic hate website, instead of saying "oops" and denouncing it you doubled down and defended it.

You have made yourself known.
 

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The Nazis were not simply letting Jews starve because there wasn't enough food. There were systematically slaughtering Jews.
I am a skeptic. I consider things but want to see proof. All you offer is dismissal with no proof. All news and publication has an agenda. There are only versions of the truth, no such thing as the gods honest truth.
Now you are actually denying that the Nazis systematically slaughtered Jews.
 

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Now you are actually denying that the Nazis systematically slaughtered Jews.
Ahhh more words being put in my mouth, even the article you foam at the mouth over does not make that claim. I know the Jews were not all starved to death, but many were..or are you claiming food would not have helped? It is a well known fact many liberated camp survivors tragically died when they ingested food that was given to them, such was the depleted stated of their bodies. So you guys are now saying it was ok to not send food to these people? That even alleviating their suffering even if they died in the end was of no value. I am not even sure if these are the facts, but since Frick and Frack did not debunk them with a bile filled rant I have to assume they could not.
 

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These are your racist words:

The Nazis were not simply letting Jews starve because there wasn't enough food. There were systematically slaughtering Jews.
I am a skeptic. I consider things but want to see proof. All you offer is dismissal with no proof. All news and publication has an agenda. There are only versions of the truth, no such thing as the gods honest truth.
There is no other way to read that, you are questioning whether the Nazis systematically killed the Jews.
 
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