NOAA’s climate change science fiction

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The environmental intelligence agency ignores satellite data

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) is the nation’s leading collector of climate data. Every day, NOAA analyzes vast amounts of data to predict changes to our climate, weather, oceans and coasts. The agency also publishes monthly temperature averages across the nation and compares those numbers to historical temperature records.

As the nation’s self-proclaimed authority on “environmental intelligence,” NOAA should be held to the highest scientific standards. This means their conclusions should be objective, independent of political consideration and based on all available sources of information.

NOAA’s top official, Kathryn Sullivan, has described the agency’s role as providing “timely, reliably, and actionable information — based on sound science — every day to millions of Americans.”

In testimony before the House Science Committee, NOAA’s deputy administrator, Manson Brown, made similar remarks, noting the importance of satellite data. He said that NOAA’s ability “to deliver environmental intelligence starts with keeping the pulse of the planet, especially the atmosphere and the ocean, and this is the central capability where space-based assets come into play.” So why does NOAA leave out satellite data when it releases climate projections?

NOAA often fails to consider all available data in its determinations and climate change reports to the public. A recent study by NOAA, published in the journal Science, made “adjustments” to historical temperature records and NOAA trumpeted the findings as refuting the nearly two-decade pause in global warming. The study’s authors claimed these adjustments were supposedly based on new data and new methodology. But the study failed to include satellite data.

Atmospheric satellite data, considered by many to be the most objective, has clearly showed no warming for the past two decades. This fact is well documented, but has been embarrassing for an administration determined to push through costly environmental regulations.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/26/lamar-smith-noaas-climate-change-science-fiction/
 

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The environmental intelligence agency ignores satellite data

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) is the nation’s leading collector of climate data. Every day, NOAA analyzes vast amounts of data to predict changes to our climate, weather, oceans and coasts. The agency also publishes monthly temperature averages across the nation and compares those numbers to historical temperature records.

As the nation’s self-proclaimed authority on “environmental intelligence,” NOAA should be held to the highest scientific standards. This means their conclusions should be objective, independent of political consideration and based on all available sources of information.

NOAA’s top official, Kathryn Sullivan, has described the agency’s role as providing “timely, reliably, and actionable information — based on sound science — every day to millions of Americans.”

In testimony before the House Science Committee, NOAA’s deputy administrator, Manson Brown, made similar remarks, noting the importance of satellite data. He said that NOAA’s ability “to deliver environmental intelligence starts with keeping the pulse of the planet, especially the atmosphere and the ocean, and this is the central capability where space-based assets come into play.” So why does NOAA leave out satellite data when it releases climate projections?

NOAA often fails to consider all available data in its determinations and climate change reports to the public. A recent study by NOAA, published in the journal Science, made “adjustments” to historical temperature records and NOAA trumpeted the findings as refuting the nearly two-decade pause in global warming. The study’s authors claimed these adjustments were supposedly based on new data and new methodology. But the study failed to include satellite data.

Atmospheric satellite data, considered by many to be the most objective, has clearly showed no warming for the past two decades. This fact is well documented, but has been embarrassing for an administration determined to push through costly environmental regulations.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/26/lamar-smith-noaas-climate-change-science-fiction/
Adjustments,..???

,..."made “adjustments” to historical temperature records and NOAA trumpeted the findings as refuting the nearly two-decade pause in global warming."

I guess when you are answerable to nobody,...your allowed to rewrite history,...especially if paychecks are in jeopardy.

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The guy is an idiot.
(Lamar Smith, author of your blog post and wacko congressman)

He says this:
Atmospheric satellite data, considered by many to be the most objective, has clearly showed no warming for the past two decades. This fact is well documented, but has been embarrassing for an administration determined to push through costly environmental regulations.
But this is the reality:


The guy is an idiot.
 

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How can a Texan Republican be objective about climate change lol?
No more than a Liberal Democrat, Bernie Sanders, can.
Lamar Smith is the head of House Committee on Science, Space and Technology. He's heard thousands of hours of testimony and reviewed many documents on the subject of climate change. What he says is correct - the satellite record (RSS and UAH) shows no global warming for almost 2 decades.
 

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No more than a Liberal Democrat, Bernie Sanders, can.
Lamar Smith is the head of House Committee on Science, Space and Technology. He's heard thousands of hours of testimony and reviewed many documents on the subject of climate change. What he says is correct - the satellite record (RSS and UAH) shows no global warming for almost 2 decades.
Sure, there is no warming in the troposphere, according to satellites.
There is also no warming in space or on the moon.

But it has nothing to do with surface temperatures.
Lamar is a kook.
 

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Adjustments,..???

,..."made “adjustments” to historical temperature records and NOAA trumpeted the findings as refuting the nearly two-decade pause in global warming."

I guess when you are answerable to nobody,...your allowed to rewrite history,...especially if paychecks are in jeopardy.

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I believe you hit it on the head, Everything we are being told and experiencing around us today is about a paycheck. Including Terrorism.
 

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Sure, there is no warming in the troposphere, according to satellites.
There is also no warming in space or on the moon.

But it has nothing to do with surface temperatures.
Lamar is a kook.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/scien...ol-down?_ga=1.222540379.1997548484.1447224157

World will start COOLING DOWN in 2017, claims one of planet's top climate change experts

ONE of the world's leading climate change experts claims to have discovered mathematical anomalies which effectively 'disprove' global warming.

By JON AUSTIN
PUBLISHED: 18:43, Fri, Oct 9, 2015 | UPDATED: 19:47, Fri, Oct 9, 2015


Dr David Evans claims CO2 has only a tenth to a fifth of the impact on temperature rises than calculated
Dr David Evans, a former climate modeller for the Government’s Australian Greenhouse Office, says global warming predictions have been vastly exaggerated in error.

The academic, from Perth, Australia, who has passed six degrees in applied mathematics, has analysed complex mathematical assumptions widely used to predict climate change and is predicting world temperature will stagnate until 2017 before cooling, with a 'mini ice age' by 2030.

He says fundamental flaws in how future temperatures may rise have been included in the 'standard models' and this has led to inflated mathematical - and therefore temperature - predictions.

He said: "There is an intellectual stand-off in climate change. Skeptics point to empirical evidence that disagrees with the climate models.


Global warming 'is FAKE': Volume of ice caps is INCREASING, claims...
"Yet the climate scientists insist that their calculations showing a high sensitivity to carbon dioxide are correct — because they use well-established physics, such as spectroscopy, radiation physics, and adiabatic lapse rates.

He said he "mapped out" the architecture of the climate models used and found, that while the physics was correct, it had been "applied wrongly".

He claims to have found two reasons for it being wrongly applied, the first being a vastly over estimated impact on our temperature from CO2.

He said: "There is no empirical evidence that rising levels of carbon dioxide will raise the temperature of the Earth’s surface as fast as the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) predicts.



"Yes, CO2 has an effect, but it’s about a fifth or tenth of what the IPCC says it is.

"CO2 is not driving the climate; it caused less than 20% of the global warming in the last few decades”.

He said the other problem was the predictions had no reflection on changes that have actually been recorded and never saw the current 18-year temperature stagnation we are now in.


Dr David Evans presses his theory that we do not cause global warming
Dr David Evans presses his theory that we do not cause global warming
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There is no empirical evidence that rising levels of carbon dioxide will raise the temperature of the Earth’s surface as fast as the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) predicts
Dr David Evans
“The model architecture was wrong,” he said.

“Carbon dioxide causes only minor warming. The climate is largely driven by factors outside our control.

"As such, the wind farms and solar panels are not just bad at reducing carbon dioxide — even if they did succeed in reducing carbon dioxide they’d be useless at cooling the planet. It is only four billion dollars a day worldwide, wasted."

Although he is convinced he is right, he fears it will not be taken on board by world governments.

“These findings here are unlikely to be popular with the establishment. The political obstacles are massive,” he said.

Dr Evans says historic global warming has been down to solar activity - a process called “albedo modulation” - the waxing and waning of reflected radiation from the Sun.

Between 2017 and 2021 he estimates a cooling of about 0.3C before the mini ice age in the 2030s.

His theory is unlikely to convince Julia Slingo, UK Met Office chief scientist, who believes increased CO2 levels is the big "smoking gun evidence" for man made climate change.

A mini ice age could be more likely, says Dr Evans
 

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World will start COOLING DOWN in 2017, claims one of planet's top climate change experts

ONE of the world's leading climate change experts claims to have discovered mathematical anomalies which effectively 'disprove' global warming.
'Leading expert'?

Tell you what, I'd bet you the guys idiotic claims don't come true if they weren't that long.

Dr Evans says historic global warming has been down to solar activity - a process called “albedo modulation” - the waxing and waning of reflected radiation from the Sun.

Between 2017 and 2021 he estimates a cooling of about 0.3C before the mini ice age in the 2030s.
This guy is a total idiot, who has theories of banker run conspiracies controlling climate change research.
And this min ice age theory is the kookiest of them all.

How do you fall for this stuff?
 

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No more than a Liberal Democrat, Bernie Sanders, can.
Lamar Smith is the head of House Committee on Science, Space and Technology. He's heard thousands of hours of testimony and reviewed many documents on the subject of climate change. What he says is correct - the satellite record (RSS and UAH) shows no global warming for almost 2 decades.
Then I want to hear from a scientist!

No global warming for 2 decades and yet people I know who've taken cruises to Alaska see evidence of retreating glaciers, etc.
 

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I believe you hit it on the head, Everything we are being told and experiencing around us today is about a paycheck. Including Terrorism.
Including the JFK Assassination (military industrial complex and the business of war, multi-national corporations and their colonial control of developing countries' natural resources).
 

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'Leading expert'?

Tell you what, I'd bet you the guys idiotic claims don't come true if they weren't that long.



This guy is a total idiot, who has theories of banker run conspiracies controlling climate change research.
And this min ice age theory is the kookiest of them all.

How do you fall for this stuff?

http://www.express.co.uk/news/scien...NG-six-years-Arctic-north-pole-climate-change

GLOBAL WARMING? NASA says Antarctic has been COOLING for past SIX years

ANTARCTIC temperatures have cooled over the past six years, according to US space agency NASA.

By JON AUSTIN
PUBLISHED: 07:51, Sat, Nov 28, 2015 | UPDATED: 12:58, Sat, Nov 28, 2015Heimdal Glacier in southern Greenland, in an image captured on Oct. 13, 2015, from NASA Langley Research Center's Falcon 20 aircraft flying 33,000 feeNASA
Heimdal Glacier southern Greenland, from NASA's Falcon 20 aircraft at 33,000 feet above sea level.
An intensive scientific study of both Earth's poles has found that from 2009 to 2016 overall temperature has dropped in the southern polar region.

NASA’s Operation IceBridge is an airborne survey of polar ice and has finalised two overlapping research campaigns at both the poles.

In the last few weeks NASA has revealed the overall amount of ice has increased at the Antarctic and the amount of sea ice has also extended.

Coupled with the latest announcement of slight cooling in the area, it has fuelled claims from climate change deniers that human industrialisation is not having the huge impact on global tenperature as often is claimed.

Map showing the extent of ice during the NASA studiesNASA
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Christopher Shuman, a University of Maryland, Baltimore County glaciologist working at Goddard, said: "Field data suggests that there’s been a modest cooling in the area over the 2009–2015 time period, and images collected during that time by the Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer on the Terra and Aqua satellites show more persistent fast ice (sea ice that is attached to the shore) in the Larsen A and Larsen B embayments”
 

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Then I want to hear from a scientist!

No global warming for 2 decades and yet people I know who've taken cruises to Alaska see evidence of retreating glaciers, etc.
http://aetherforce.com/arctic-ice-cap-grows-60-percent-in-a-year-global-cooling-by-danny-choy/


Arctic Ice Cap Grows 60 Percent In A Year – Global Cooling? By Danny Choy

Global Cooling
NASA PHOTO]

NASA satellite images show August 2012
and August 2013
. (Photo: NASA)

Are we experiencing global cooling? A cool Arctic summer allowed nearly a million more squre miles of ice to form over the same time last year. This figure represents a growth of 60 percent.



The incredible arctic ice growth after the record low of 2012 is significant. Just six years ago, a science article from the BBC reported that global warming would leave the Arctic ice-free by the summer of 2013. The indication of global cooling indicates the opposite. According to monitors, the Arctic now features an unbroken ice sheet that is larger than half of Europe. The sheet stretches from the Canadian islands all the way to Russia’s northern shores. What’s more, the Arctic’s Northwest Passage has been blocked by ice all year. More than 20 yachts that attempted to sail the passage were left ice bound. A cruise ship was also forced to turn back around.



Due to the latest data, scientists now believe Earth is headed for a global cooling phase that extends until the middle of the century. If the cooling phase is real, then the process will debunk all forecasts of imminent catastrophic warming. Six years ago, BBC reported that the Arctic would be ice-free by the summer of 2013. In fact, scientists in the US even claimed that the forecast was conservative.​
 

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http://www.express.co.uk/news/scien...NG-six-years-Arctic-north-pole-climate-change

GLOBAL WARMING? NASA says Antarctic has been COOLING for past SIX years
Here's what NASA really has to say about that one study:
NOTE: The findings reported here conflict with over a decade of other measurements, including previous NASA studies. However, challenges to existing findings are an integral part of the scientific process and can help clarify and advance understanding. Additional scrutiny and follow-up research will be required before this study can be reconciled with the preponderance of evidence supporting the widely accepted model of a shrinking Antarctic ice sheet.
http://climate.nasa.gov/news/2361/

Its one study, one study in which numerous people have stated there are serious issues.

However, since you're now quoting NASA, I'm sure you're also going to support their views on climate change, correct?
 

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Here's what NASA really has to say about that one study:

http://climate.nasa.gov/news/2361/

Its one study, one study in which numerous people have stated there are serious issues.

However, since you're now quoting NASA, I'm sure you're also going to support their views on climate change, correct?
Then I want to hear from a scientist!

No global warming for 2 decades and yet people I know who've taken cruises to Alaska see evidence of retreating glaciers, etc.
http://aetherforce.com/arctic-ice-cap-grows-60-percent-in-a-year-global-cooling-by-danny-choy/


Arctic Ice Cap Grows 60 Percent In A Year – Global Cooling? By Danny Choy

Global Cooling
NASA PHOTO]

NASA satellite images show August 2012
and August 2013
. (Photo: NASA)

Are we experiencing global cooling? A cool Arctic summer allowed nearly a million more squre miles of ice to form over the same time last year. This figure represents a growth of 60 percent.



The incredible arctic ice growth after the record low of 2012 is significant. Just six years ago, a science article from the BBC reported that global warming would leave the Arctic ice-free by the summer of 2013. The indication of global cooling indicates the opposite. According to monitors, the Arctic now features an unbroken ice sheet that is larger than half of Europe. The sheet stretches from the Canadian islands all the way to Russia’s northern shores. What’s more, the Arctic’s Northwest Passage has been blocked by ice all year. More than 20 yachts that attempted to sail the passage were left ice bound. A cruise ship was also forced to turn back around.



Due to the latest data, scientists now believe Earth is headed for a global cooling phase that extends until the middle of the century. If the cooling phase is real, then the process will debunk all forecasts of imminent catastrophic warming. Six years ago, BBC reported that the Arctic would be ice-free by the summer of 2013. In fact, scientists in the US even claimed that the forecast was conservative.​
 

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http://aetherforce.com/arctic-ice-cap-grows-60-percent-in-a-year-global-cooling-by-danny-choy/


Arctic Ice Cap Grows 60 Percent In A Year – Global Cooling? By Danny Choy

Global Cooling
NASA PHOTO]

NASA satellite images show August 2012
and August 2013
. (Photo: NASA)

Are we experiencing global cooling? A cool Arctic summer allowed nearly a million more squre miles of ice to form over the same time last year. This figure represents a growth of 60 percent.



The incredible arctic ice growth after the record low of 2012 is significant. Just six years ago, a science article from the BBC reported that global warming would leave the Arctic ice-free by the summer of 2013. The indication of global cooling indicates the opposite. According to monitors, the Arctic now features an unbroken ice sheet that is larger than half of Europe. The sheet stretches from the Canadian islands all the way to Russia’s northern shores. What’s more, the Arctic’s Northwest Passage has been blocked by ice all year. More than 20 yachts that attempted to sail the passage were left ice bound. A cruise ship was also forced to turn back around.



Due to the latest data, scientists now believe Earth is headed for a global cooling phase that extends until the middle of the century. If the cooling phase is real, then the process will debunk all forecasts of imminent catastrophic warming. Six years ago, BBC reported that the Arctic would be ice-free by the summer of 2013. In fact, scientists in the US even claimed that the forecast was conservative.​



PA, we will see if Evans is right in just a few short years. I hope you're right but this issue has become highly politicized. While I tend to believe in AGW, I sure as hell don't want our taxes to go through the roof because if it, or serious job losses from over-regulation.​
 

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http://aetherforce.com/arctic-ice-cap-grows-60-percent-in-a-year-global-cooling-by-danny-choy/


Arctic Ice Cap Grows 60 Percent In A Year – Global Cooling? By Danny Choy
Its called cherry picking.
When you base your argument around the only data points in which your claim can be made.

If you look at the chart of arctic ice cover, you can see that the trend is very much going down, but not in one straight line.
Your dishonest author just picked the only two years where that claim could be made and then turned that into an outrageous claim that this is the trend, after one year.
Its ridiculous.

 

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As if we have control over this planet. We are not that significant. Get a hold of yourselves !!
 

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As if we have control over this planet. We are not that significant. Get a hold of yourselves !!
Here, I'll give you one chart that shows the impact of humans.
This shows the mass of humans, our livestock vs wild mammals across the globe.

Tell me that we aren't significant after understanding this.

 
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