I am glad to hear you are not retiring because of the few bad apples, but sad to see you go. Have a wonderful life, you deserve it, but if you ever decide to come back, we will welcome you with big hugs for sure. Take care Dina.aww no i am not retiring because of the few bad apples. i am honestly happily retiring and it was a great experience. i was in this for the short term only anyway. now i have to focus on other things life brings me
also... Andy, Taylor and Mariah were all amazing to me. Mirage is great to work for
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So, two things surprise me about this. First, that Dina would say all of this to Tolleman, who says he has never met her, presumably has therefore never hired her as an SP. only PM'd... Why wouldn't she confide all of this instead to a long time or trusted customer?Dina sent me a PM shortly after she left Ottawa after I asked her what had gone wrong here, how was Ottawa different than Toronto. I will keep details of her response confidential. I have never met her in person; just PM'd.
What Bobvero says about clients refusing to shower, not respecting her rules, intimidating and slut shaming her is basically the gist of her PM. I mean some guys showed up with dick-cheese and refused to jump in the shower including some members in this thread. Almost like they had an aversion to showering. That wasn't the exception unfortunately, it was the rule.
As you know she provides a gfe sometimes pse experience and is widely known for that. That wasn't good enough here. Some guys wanted to take that to an extreme, even after being told what her restrictions are. For example she does not provide greek. She has other limits as well.
The slut shaming is something she rarely gets in Toronto. Here it happened a number of times and it really affected her, and now so much she has retired. Guys here bombarded her with personal questions which made her feel humiliated and exploited.
If you don't know what slut shaming is you might want to educate yourselves. Granted there can be a fine line between dirty talk and slut shaming but at the extremes there is a clear difference. Dirty talk is "does that feel good when I do that"; slut shaming is "tell me how many dirty cocks you sucked today you bitch" when the recipient makes it clear that she's offended.
There are providers which cater to BDSM. Typically the services have to be discussed as well as the restrictions. Don't expect to see an SP and turn it into a BDSM encounter with humiliation, shaming, etc.
That's not to say that I don't believe this, it's just weird how it come out, no?
Second, that there has been no official word from Mirage. Particularly if she was mis-treated or abused, then you'd think Mirage would put out some kind of warning that this must never happen to their ladies again and they will look out for them. This kind of abuse is what legislation should be dealing with.
From his posts here and PM's, I can say that Tolleman is a polite and helpful member of this community. Since he asked nicely, I see no reason why Dina wouldn't answer honestly to him about her frustrations in Ottawa. What she told him doesn't seem like particularly personal info to me, just my two cents.
Gentlemen....We ALL need to realize that SP are people too....whether it is the jerks in Ottawa that were mean to her or the jerk that that said "she will come back when the money runs out"....We need to follow the golden rule....TREAT PEOPLE THE WAY YOU WANT PEOPLE TO TREAT YOU!!!
I'm a very occasional and discrete hobbyist but I had to say something. I find it disturbing and shameful on Ottawa that a few inconsiderate jerks would spoil it for the rest of us. I had an incredible time with Dina the last (and now final) time she was in Ottawa. Smart, sexy, beautiful and passionate, she was everything I could hope for and more. It was a greatly liberating experience with her and she opened my eyes to a number of things. It's a great loss if she retires but she intimated that this was not a longtime pursuit. I'm so happy that I met her and feel I'm better for having met her. Be happy Dina and good luck in your future pursuits...
I'm always amazed that Dina at such a young age can be so classy in the face of boorish douchbags like chongqing.
I went to see her a few times based on her wonderful and sexy personality in our forums, and she is just as sweet in person.
No wonder she was the highest rated SP this year by far (on that other board).
All the best to you Dina!
Your a truly classy lady sweety! I'm going to really miss you.wish it wasn't so but stay well and if ever you visit Florida and want me to show you the town. I'll be there.Hugs and kisses Bob
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i wish you good luck and I really wish I had the pleasure of meeting youaww no i am not retiring because of the few bad apples. i am honestly happily retiring and it was a great experience. i was in this for the short term only anyway. now i have to focus on other things life brings me
also... Andy, Taylor and Mariah were all amazing to me. Mirage is great to work for
. Damn my procrastinationYou are right this is true for a lot of SPs; we have just noted the return of one popular SP who retired and is active on the rosy board. BUT, given the nature of the thread and the sadness of the situation, you could have kept this "truth" to yourself. Every statement has a different meaning according to the context, and in this context your statement is more like an insult to a popular and loved SP: this is wrong.
Exactly. The ridicule doesn't help. We should all be lucky that she's in the industry and hope that she's okay.
Doesn't make him any less of an ass, does it?http://www.mirage-entertainment.cc//dina.html
She's Ba-a-a-a-ck!
Well, White Knights, looks like chongqing The Wise has the last laugh after all.
She mentioned clearly on this thread that the few bad apples in Ottawa did not make her leave the industry. She will always find bad apples, in Ottawa, Toronto, MTL...Actually I know some SPs tour only Ottawa because they find that we behave more gentlemanly than other hobbyists in other cities. My 2 cents.
Welcome back Dina!
