Trudeau's Weed Promise

Smallcock

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Potheads have told me this is dank legislation.
 

frankcastle

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I have always felt that it is less harmful than tobacco or alcohol. As long as there is a way to test for impaired driving i am cool with it.

Increase tax revenue and allowing police to focus on other things is probably a good thing too.
 

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I have always felt that it is less harmful than tobacco or alcohol. As long as there is a way to test for impaired driving i am cool with it.

Increase tax revenue and allowing police to focus on other things is probably a good thing too.
Studies show it doesn't impair you when you drive
 

GameBoy27

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This will be interesting. If the Province thinks it's going to make billions by legalizing, controlling the sale and taxing weed the way they do alcohol, they may be in for a surprise. As it stands, just about anyone who wants to smoke weed has no problem getting their hands on it, as opposed to alcohol where there's no underground market per se.

So unless the Province plans to undercut current suppliers, there will be no incentive for users to buy from a retail outlet. The only reason the LCBO can get away with charging exorbitant prices is because they have no competition.

I'm also not convinced that if it becomes legal, people who've never had a desire to smoke will suddenly take it up.

 

saxon

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I have always felt that it is less harmful than tobacco or alcohol. As long as there is a way to test for impaired driving i am cool with it.

Increase tax revenue and allowing police to focus on other things is probably a good thing too.
Why does the government have to tax it? Typical Liberal move, legalize something just so they can tax it.
 

Big Sleazy

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I have always felt that it is less harmful than tobacco or alcohol. As long as there is a way to test for impaired driving i am cool with it.

Increase tax revenue and allowing police to focus on other things is probably a good thing too.
Why would anyone ask for more taxes ? Just reinstate the Charter of the Bank of Canada and issue our money interest free. It was his father PEI that handed our public Bank to the Bank of International Settlements. and as far as legalizing pot. We'll see. Will it be legal for all citizens to grow pot or will he simply hand it over to a Corporation like Monsanto as an example and say, yes it's legal but you have to buy GMO pot. Just like most of the food in this Province is already. Time will tell.
 

rhuarc29

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I don't care what people do in the privacy of their own home, but weed would be a nuisance issue out in public; worse than smoking because the smell is more pungent. I say legalize it, but ban it from public property.
 

Butler1000

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They will not allow people to just grow it and sell it. Just like with alcohol they will place it in gov't run stores. It wouldn't surprise me if they place limits on THC levels.

Did you know one of his former campaign chairs is also the majority share holders in a pot growing company? One of the largest in fact.

They are going to set up an oligarchy for this. Fully taxed and regulated. And "bootlegging" pot will become illegal, with incentive to go after the competition.

As for smoking? Well the existing laws won't allow for it to be in any business. He'll they are shutting down all the hookahs. And public intoxication laws will apply to this as well.

Once the gov't wants in they will take it over. Make no mistake.
 

Butler1000

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Studies show it doesn't impair you when you drive
This just makes you look foolish. I have no doubt that reaction time, cognitive ability are impaired. They will implement a law against it and Ride testing. With the same penalties.
 

GameBoy27

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They will not allow people to just grow it and sell it.
They don't allow people to grow and sell it now but it's not hard to find.

Just like with alcohol they will place it in gov't run stores. It wouldn't surprise me if they place limits on THC levels.
But will anyone buy it from a store if it costs more and is lower in THC? They'll just continue getting it from their dealer.

They are going to set up an oligarchy for this. Fully taxed and regulated. And "bootlegging" pot will become illegal, with incentive to go after the competition.
The "bootlegging" will prevail if the government charges too much for it. Just look at how big the bootleg cigarette business is, all because of the high taxes on regular smokes.

As for smoking? Well the existing laws won't allow for it to be in any business. He'll they are shutting down all the hookahs. And public intoxication laws will apply to this as well. Once the gov't wants in they will take it over. Make no mistake.
You will be able to to smoke weed anywhere you can currently smoke cigarettes. Government may take control but unlike alcohol, they're not the only game in town. With weed being legal, it will be harder for LE to catch illegal dealers. No longer will they be able to use the old "tell me who your dealer is and I'll let you go" tactic.
 

Butler1000

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Gameboy.....how many booze bootleggers are left despite the high cost here.

Here is what will happen. Certain interests with gov't connections will get licenses. They will start selling it with limited taxes on it. And meanwhile two things with the illegal growers will occur.

One. They will go legit. Why risk jail when you can legally sell it?
Two. The illegal growers will get busted.

What you don't get is many people will prefer NOT to have to deal with scummy dealers. They will want to shop for it.

There will be all kinds of articles that come out about the dangers of non regulated pot and how it will hurt you as opposed to the registered brands.

They will also allow for "U-grows" within registered and inspected premises for those who want too.

And smaller growers(craft growers) will have limited shelf space and if they become popular get bought out by the big three or four companies that will eventually dominate the market.

Very few grow it now. So having the convinience of buying from the store will appeal to most casual smokers as opposed the trouble of a dealer.

And once they have the market the taxes will rise.

Just look at the history of alcohol in the country and that is the template they will use.
 

Perry Mason

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Studies show it doesn't impair you when you drive
You are so full of it!

Have you ever used it? Do you also intend to use it when operating high speed or dangerous machinery?

Please refer me to those studies... :rofl:

Perry
 

MattRoxx

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This will be interesting. If the Province thinks it's going to make billions by legalizing, controlling the sale and taxing weed the way they do alcohol, they may be in for a surprise. As it stands, just about anyone who wants to smoke weed has no problem getting their hands on it, as opposed to alcohol where there's no underground market per se.

So unless the Province plans to undercut current suppliers, there will be no incentive for users to buy from a retail outlet. The only reason the LCBO can get away with charging exorbitant prices is because they have no competition.
You're lucky if your local dealer has 2 types of pot to choose from. I was in a store near Broadview and Danforth a few weeks ago and they had about a dozen varieties with a wide range of prices and potencies. So there's that.
Maybe Imperial Cannabis will have the cheapest stuff you can get, but there will also be a lot of 'boutique' hydroponic growers cultivating their own distinctive buds. I expect there will be the opportunity for the equivalent of microbrew pubs to open up with speciality leaves catering to various segments of the populace.

The other part you're forgetting about is, if you look at oh, Denver, there is huge market for edibles.

http://www.denverrelief.com/medical-cannabis-edibles?age-verified=041e0f43c4

It isn't just pot growers making money, a huge industry for entrepreneurs has sprung up for everything connected with cannabis.
 

saxon

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Im not a smoker but if there's money to be made I may have to look into it.
 

onthebottom

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Could be a way for Ontario to smoke it's way out of its debt crisis.
 

Butler1000

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You're lucky if your local dealer has 2 types of pot to choose from. I was in a store near Broadview and Danforth a few weeks ago and they had about a dozen varieties with a wide range of prices and potencies. So there's that.
Maybe Imperial Cannabis will have the cheapest stuff you can get, but there will also be a lot of 'boutique' hydroponic growers cultivating their own distinctive buds. I expect there will be the opportunity for the equivalent of microbrew pubs to open up with speciality leaves catering to various segments of the populace.

The other part you're forgetting about is, if you look at oh, Denver, there is huge market for edibles.

http://www.denverrelief.com/medical-cannabis-edibles?age-verified=041e0f43c4

It isn't just pot growers making money, a huge industry for entrepreneurs has sprung up for everything connected with cannabis.
Exactly. It will be the large grow hydoponic outfits with guaranteed year round supply chain that dominate. They will use the same marketing as beer companies(if allowed, I don't know if they will be restricted like tobacco). Either way there will be designed packaging with cool names.

Some will be smaller ones for the hipster crowd.

And all of it regulated with licensing and laws about how, where, who, and things like THC levels.

And once the illegal outfits either close up, are busted or go legit then the real taxing will begin.

Most people are lazy. They won't grow it themselves. Especially because the hydro is so much better. And easier once it's mainstream.
 
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