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Maybe that's how the fleeing refugees feel too.
How many of children and elderly are being slaughtered, hanged getting their heads cut off, getting raped and tortured in Siriya that could have taken the place of the able body men and women who are escaping the vulnerable in their society. How many of those children could have been saved if the ones able to fight helped them out to escape and take their place, instead of these cowards now coming out of Siriya.

The truth about war is we will never know the actual truth and allot of this stuff gets barried. The truth is that children and elderly suffer the most and these lines should not be distributed the way they are.

If the able men and women did not fight in the war I came from I would not be here. Two of my uncles were generals and showed me videos of what the enemy taking over the cities was capable of doing to women, children and elderly that stayed behind and could not escape in time.

Guys open your eyes, look at this from a different perspective and not what the media is trying to manipulate you to think. Think what this poison will do to a society, to our societies, these able body wen and women who are fleeing their most vulnerable and precious. Think of what kind of damage they are capable of doing to our society.
 

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As a kid, I was in a basement shaking uncontrollably while there were gun shots outside my house, snipers gunning down neighbors with no weapons, and being bombed with heavy artillery.

I might know aittle about how this feels and how it feels like you are going to die because any moment somebody might knock down your basement door and shoot up everybody in there.
And you call these refugees cowards?
 

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Red - When did the Canadian armed forces accept 12 year old kids into the service? Harper's father was born in 1927, that makes him 12, maybe even 11 when the war started and either 17 or 18 by the time it ended. I think you must be Liberal with your aversion to not being truthful. You must have meant Trudeau's father who was service age eligible but preferred to stay in Montreal riding around on a motorcycle wearing a Nazi helmet and flying the Nazi flag on the back of said motorcycle.
His grandfather could have served- many did at that age.

His dad was 17 in 1944- many volunteered at 16 during ww2. He was certainly of age during the korean war- whoops didn't do that one either. both could have served but did not. Both were pro military but not willing to walk the walk.

I wouldn't have brought it up except some folks keep brining up justin's dad for some reason- at least PET did not pretend to be pro military.

Though he supported the military better than harper. The funding of the military has been the lowest under harper of any pm since the boer war
 

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Have you ever fought against jets with a rifle?
They started the war against Assad in 2011, I'm not here to defend Assad, but the people started this. They also tried an uprising against with his father Haffez, tried to implement a islamic regime and they also got beaten by the father. It's sad for the innocent people.
 

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I think many people do not understand that the majority of these people are not coming from Syria at all. They are NOT refugees which is why they feel the pain of not having a fast enough internet connection and think that the food is not up to their high standards. I believe I am correct in saying that the majority of these "Syrian refugees" are now coming to Western countries from Turkey and Pakistan. They should not have refugee status at all. I just saw something that an Islamic group put out urging Muslims to come to Sweden. It promised that if they did, they would "get a Swedish girlfriend". Make no mistake, this is a disaster for the West, for our world, for our culture, for the freedoms our ancestors fought to attain.
 

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And you call these refugees cowards?
What do you know about war other than what is shown to you on TV. What experience do you have being in an actual war and refugee situation?

Yes, I am well aware my father is a coward for escaping the fight. I was 9 at the time.

I will never make this mistake and consider Canada my own because my wife and kids are born here and I am a proud citizen.

Now other then trolling please back up your statements and provide some substance, instead of just trying to raise emotion out of me and digressing from real issues at hand.

Tell us how these able men and women are not cowards, tell us how they will make the countries they settle better, vs. trying to spread their poison.

Tell us what happened to the poor families that these able body men may have mugged or pushed out of line to escape siriya. Tell us about all the people they did not rob to get their chance to escape. Pleazee you have no fucking idea what is really going on.

Just fucking trying to start shit with people, and people too afraid to challenge you because of what happened to you. Fucking respect, its 2 way street. People only have so much patience to be stepped on before feeling sorry wears off.
 

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How many of children and elderly are being slaughtered, hanged getting their heads cut off, getting raped and tortured in Siriya that could have taken the place of the able body men and women who are escaping the vulnerable in their society. How many of those children could have been saved if the ones able to fight helped them out to escape and take their place, instead of these cowards now coming out of Siriya.

The truth about war is we will never know the actual truth and allot of this stuff gets barried. The truth is that children and elderly suffer the most and these lines should not be distributed the way they are.

If the able men and women did not fight in the war I came from I would not be here. Two of my uncles were generals and showed me videos of what the enemy taking over the cities was capable of doing to women, children and elderly that stayed behind and could not escape in time.

Guys open your eyes, look at this from a different perspective and not what the media is trying to manipulate you to think. Think what this poison will do to a society, to our societies, these able body wen and women who are fleeing their most vulnerable and precious. Think of what kind of damage they are capable of doing to our society.
You came from a country that was formed apart by war. How can you called these people cowards. Since you experience the attrocities that an arm conflict does, you should be the first to feel sorry for them.
Did your family come here as refugees? Why didn't they stay back home?
 

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How many of children and elderly are being slaughtered, hanged getting their heads cut off, getting raped and tortured in Siriya that could have taken the place of the able body men and women who are escaping the vulnerable in their society. How many of those children could have been saved if the ones able to fight helped them out to escape and take their place, instead of these cowards now coming out of Siriya.

The truth about war is we will never know the actual truth and allot of this stuff gets barried. The truth is that children and elderly suffer the most and these lines should not be distributed the way they are.

If the able men and women did not fight in the war I came from I would not be here. Two of my uncles were generals and showed me videos of what the enemy taking over the cities was capable of doing to women, children and elderly that stayed behind and could not escape in time.

Guys open your eyes, look at this from a different perspective and not what the media is trying to manipulate you to think. Think what this poison will do to a society, to our societies, these able body wen and women who are fleeing their most vulnerable and precious. Think of what kind of damage they are capable of doing to our society.

Don't forget that one must be strong and young to flee countless miles with nothing more than a suitcase or the shirt and jacket on their back.

I suppose you see the young men outside or protesting whilst the young ones are inside trains, shelters, or ahead of the rest in their travels to a final destination.
 

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Don't forget that one must be strong and young to flee countless miles with nothing more than a suitcase or the shirt and jacket on their back.

I suppose you see the young men outside or protesting whilst the young ones are inside trains, shelters, or ahead of the rest in their travels to a final destination.
I feel sorry and have compassion for the young ones involved in all of this and people who actually needed to escape.

The problem is that a lot of these able body men are taking advantage of the situation and the ones who need help are not getting it.

I am all for protecting the innocent..and do feel for them.
 

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You came from a country that was formed apart by war. How can you called these people cowards. Since you experience the attrocities that an arm conflict does, you should be the first to feel sorry for them.
Did your family come here as refugees? Why didn't they stay back home?
They are cowards, my father is a coward. I admit this to anybody who challenges me when I go home and need to look at their scars, their limps, and their mental issues. I was 9 when my family escaped war.

Call me what you will, it's is fine. I will never repeat my fathers mistakes.

However, it is because of the brave ones who stayed behind that I still have a country to visit, that I still have lots of my family still alive, and that I still have friends who also hid in the basements and ran the streets just to get some fresh bread and supplies dodging the snipers.
 

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Your father got you and the rest of your family out of a war-stricken country. I don't call that cowardly.

But, as I mentioned before, most of these "refugees" are NOT refugees at all. They are coming to the West from places like Turkey, a perfectly safe haven. This needs to be understood if this issue is to be properly dealt with.
 

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Your father got you and the rest of your family out of a war-stricken country. I don't call that cowardly.

But, as I mentioned before, most of these "refugees" are NOT refugees at all. They are coming to the West from places like Turkey, a perfectly safe haven. This needs to be understood if this issue is to be properly dealt with.
This is very true. There are so many different angles to see this situation then what is show to us with the so called 'Siriyan' refugees. Who is actually thinking this through fully and not just knee jerking kindness.

Imagine if the majority of the men did as my father did and took us out of the country, what would be there now, how many people would have been killed and ethnically cleansed.

I can't agree with this, escaping the fight, especially when I hear all the stories of battle from my uncles and relatives who did fight in the war, although I am greatful for being free now and living in the best country in the world.

I always use it to inspire me and say to myself maybe I find another way to give back, for the gift of life and a 2nd chance.
 

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They are cowards, my father is a coward. I admit this to anybody who challenges me when I go home and need to look at their scars, their limps, and their mental issues. I was 9 when my family escaped war.

Call me what you will, it's is fine. I will never repeat my fathers mistakes.

However, it is because of the brave ones who stayed behind that I still have a country to visit, that I still have lots of my family still alive, and that I still have friends who also hid in the basements and ran the streets just to get some fresh bread and supplies dodging the snipers.
You were too you ge to understand the implications of war. What you call a coward I call a hero. It wasn't easy for your parents to flee their own country. Most of people don't want to leave their land. They were forced to emigrate. He probably saved your and your family lives. You could be death or without a leg or hands, etc.

Every war is about power and money. While generals, politicians and the elite wine and dine making plans and discussing the war the people is used as cannon's meat. People and soldiers are just expendable for the leaders.

When you have a family you think about their safety first. That's what your parents did.
 

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You were too you ge to understand the implications of war. What you call a coward I call a hero. It wasn't easy for your parents to flee their own country. Most of people don't want to leave their land. They were forced to emigrate. He probably saved your and your family lives. You could be death or without a leg or hands, etc.

Every war is about power and money. While generals, politicians and the elite wine and dine making plans and discussing the war the people is used as cannon's meat. People and soldiers are just expendable for the leaders.

When you have a family you think about their safety first. That's what your parents did.
I can't argue with this, even though it has many sides.

It is probably the toughest decision to make...when do you decide to abandon ship. Is it worth risking your life, do you risk knowing you abandoned your people your entire life so you can save your family.

Yeah, war is very bad. I think the questions that we need to answer is how do we actually help the people that need help, and not create a bad situation even worse for the refugees and the countries they are coming to.

It just seems like there are so many wrongs and sides with this whole refugee crisis, that honestly it is becoming very difficult to know what is the right thing to do here, and not shoot ourselves in the foot helping.
 

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They are disappointed with the promised land = Land of milk and honey
They were expecting that they would arrive and be fully integrated with European society and be a part of the "have" society and leave their past of "have not" society. They hear of counties with free government services like welfare and medical care but that is for the tax payers and citizens, they can not expect to be instant citizens on arrival.
But that is what the Liberals and NDP want. Throw open the doors and take as many and as quickly as possible. With immediate citizenship and benefits!
 

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The same thing went for the Italians,Portuguese,Jews,actually all the european immigrants. Note many different religions and cultures that came decades before.
I think Muslims are the majority taxi drivers (no dogs, no alcohol). Many Somalis are drug dealers. Many Iranians operate small businesses (auto dealers, electronics, etc.). Many Pakistanis own and operate dollar stores.
 

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I feel sorry and have compassion for the young ones involved in all of this and people who actually needed to escape.

The problem is that a lot of these able body men are taking advantage of the situation and the ones who need help are not getting it.

I am all for protecting the innocent..and do feel for them.
I saw that video wherein the able-bodied men were rejecting water and food, but the children gladly indulged in the hand outs.

I think the young men are spoiled but also pissed off at the reaction by certain countries in halting their advance. IOW, we see them because they are strong enough to protest. However, we should still screen them for any known undesirables.
 

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I wish they would just fuck off back to where they came from. They come to the West not grateful, not trying to assimilate but bitching and complaining and trying to change OUR culture. It is getting beyond ridiculous. And here in Canada we have Mulcair and Trudeau criticizing Harper for not taking more of these "refugees" and Harper feebly defending himself by saying yes, we are taking a lot of them actually. And where is Saudi Arabia in all this? How many refugees are they taking? Zero. But don't say that they aren;t doing their bit. They have offered to build 11 new Mosques for the refugees--IN GERMANY. The Islamic Invasion of the West continues unabated.
i cant speak with absolutely certainty because im not a professional of their culture but i can take a pretty good guess. they're complaining about us and what we provide and our country and saudi arabia isn't taking any refugees and they're trying to build mosques in germany because they think they're superior to all of us and a better superior and ONLY example to all of us. as if they set an example with their lousy culture and ideas and religion that they try to impose on every country as if its the 'correct' culture and every other culture and idea and religion is the wrong one. do you see them trying to assimilate and understand us? no. but their women that do come here and realize that we treat women better here do try to understand and accept our country, its code and culture because the women realize they are respected more here. but for the men, everything im guessing, that they're superior and the only ones right amongst this country and every other country (like germany)

bottomline:

they complain nonstop because they think we're here to serve them.

but canada and its politicians are enabling their bad attitudes by adopting a servitude attitude towards them.

if you look at australia, their prime minister told them that they have to adjust to australia or get the f out of australia.
 

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His grandfather could have served- many did at that age.

His dad was 17 in 1944- many volunteered at 16 during ww2. He was certainly of age during the korean war- whoops didn't do that one either. both could have served but did not. Both were pro military but not willing to walk the walk.

I wouldn't have brought it up except some folks keep brining up justin's dad for some reason- at least PET did not pretend to be pro military.

Though he supported the military better than harper. The funding of the military has been the lowest under harper of any pm since the boer war
Weak recovery.
 
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