Taxi service whiners

[JackBurton]

Looks like the taxi drivers in Toronto have a councillor on their side against Uber http://news.nationalpost.com/toront...uber-and-the-suckers-being-recruited-to-drive

I say fuck them and their shitty, over priced service. They've had it too good for too long. There is no other city where you can charge someone $30 to go from Ellington to downtown. It's high time the free market gets in on the act, then maybe they will realize they charge too much.

 

[Combat Shock]

We could also say the same for unionized jobs?

 

[GPIDEAL]

Jack, I've been abandoned by taxi drivers for having a short trip downtown. I had to generously tip a guy once just for him to take me (one can't walk back to their hotel from the theater in their dress shoes, especially if with a lady in heels).

 

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Looks like the taxi drivers in Toronto have a councillor on their side against Uber http://news.nationalpost.com/toront...uber-and-the-suckers-being-recruited-to-drive

I say fuck them and their shitty, over priced service. They've had it too good for too long. There is no other city where you can charge someone $30 to go from Ellington to downtown. It's high time the free market gets in on the act, then maybe they will realize they charge too much.

Rates are regulated and set by the city. Free market is good like privatizing garbage so glad you are on board with that. But it is unfair to saddle taxi drivers with regulations and uber with none. Thats not a free market for taxi drivers

 

[GameBoy27]

Jack, I've been abandoned by taxi drivers for having a short trip downtown. I had to generously tip a guy once just for him to take me (one can't walk back to their hotel from the theater in their dress shoes, especially if with a lady in heels).

Same thing has happened to me on numerous occasions, which is illegal btw. I just tell them, "that's fine I'll take Uber this time, and next". Two can play that game, except I win.

Rates are regulated and set by the city. Free market is good like privatizing garbage so glad you are on board with that. But it is unfair to saddle taxi drivers with regulations and uber with none. Thats not a free market for taxi drivers

Then the taxi industry should be picking their fight with the city to have the industry deregulated. Their protests are focused in the wrong direction. Uber isn't going away.

This is where the old saying "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em" comes to mind.

 

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I have heard people say it but never had it happen to me

 

[FAST]

Must be fixed

Rates are regulated and set by the city. Free market is good like privatizing garbage so glad you are on board with that. But it is unfair to saddle taxi drivers with regulations and uber with none. Thats not a free market for taxi drivers

Have to agree,...I'm all for free enterprise,...but the same rules have to apply to everybody.

But of coarse if this was a union busting tactic,...I would be all for it,...

FAST

 

[JackBurton]

The free market will find the proper equilibrium. When it's $40 to go from downtown Manhattan to the Newerk airport but $30 for being fucked in the ass to go 7 km, I say tough shit and don't whine.

 

[GPIDEAL]

Rates are regulated and set by the city. Free market is good like privatizing garbage so glad you are on board with that. But it is unfair to saddle taxi drivers with regulations and uber with none. Thats not a free market for taxi drivers

Good point. A lot of taxi drivers don't even own their own licenses and make monthly payments for those.

 

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The free market will find the proper equilibrium. When it's $40 to go from downtown Manhattan to the Newerk airport but $30 for being fucked in the ass to go 7 km, I say tough shit and don't whine.

You pay 30 bucks to get fucked in the ass? Try going to village I bet you can get a better rate

 

[GameBoy27]

Good point. A lot of taxi drivers don't even own their own licenses and make monthly payments for those.

Right... Drivers rent the taxi's from the plate holders. Some people own many plates, which is wrong but that's what the city has allowed them to do. These plate owners essentially do nothing but collect revenue on the backs of the poor schmucks driving cab.

 

[shrek71]

The taxi industry is nothing but an organized monopoly. Licensing and regulation are the tactics used by such monopolies to keep out competition and stifle innovation.

I am all for Uber and free markets. As someone else pointed out, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

If the taxi industry had the same level of customer service as Uber and other ride sharing platforms, then there would be fewer things to complain about.


Cheers

 

[GPIDEAL]

Right... Drivers rent the taxi's from the plate holders. Some people own many plates, which is wrong but that's what the city has allowed them to do. These plate owners essentially do nothing but collect revenue on the backs of the poor schmucks driving cab.

There was a Terb thread about this. Mel Lastman was one of the original plate owners and made a ton of money. Now it's somebody else.

 

[GPIDEAL]

The taxi industry is nothing but an organized monopoly. Licensing and regulation are the tactics used by such monopolies to keep out competition and stifle innovation.

I am all for Uber and free markets. As someone else pointed out, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

If the taxi industry had the same level of customer service as Uber and other ride sharing platforms, then there would be fewer things to complain about.


Cheers

Hear, hear.

(It seems City Hall allowed the commodification of taxi licenses way back).

 

[harryass]

Looks like the taxi drivers in Toronto have a councillor on their side against Uber http://news.nationalpost.com/toront...uber-and-the-suckers-being-recruited-to-drive

I say fuck them and their shitty, over priced service. They've had it too good for too long. There is no other city where you can charge someone $30 to go from Ellington to downtown. It's high time the free market gets in on the act, then maybe they will realize they charge too much.

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The taxi industry is nothing but an organized monopoly. Licensing and regulation are the tactics used by such monopolies to keep out competition and stifle innovation.

I am all for Uber and free markets. As someone else pointed out, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

If the taxi industry had the same level of customer service as Uber and other ride sharing platforms, then there would be fewer things to complain about.


Cheers

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totally agree, taxi service here has got it too good. Taxi service here is Over the top high fares, piss poor service, purposely driving slow missing the green light, takes the most congested route and expecting a tip too. My Tip - go on strike and go fuK yourself. Don't feel any sympathy for them. It's about time there's competition in the market!!!

 

[SoftHands813]

... purposely driving slow missing the green light ...

That's news to me. Usually I see them running yellow lights (and reds!).

 

[GameBoy27]

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totally agree, taxi service here has got it too good. Taxi service here is Over the top high fares, piss poor service, purposely driving slow missing the green light, takes the most congested route and expecting a tip too. My Tip - go on strike and go fuK yourself. Don't feel any sympathy for them. It's about time there's competition in the market!!!

My parents don't drive anymore so I'll drive them to our place for dinner once a week. If I've had a couple drinks I'll send them home in a cab. I'd tell the cabby the address and the route I'd like them to take as it's the shortest/cheapest. On several occasions my folks told me the driver would take the "long way" instead of the shorter way I told them to go.

I complained a to the cab company a couple times but as usual, nothing happened. It pisses me off that they would take advantage of an elderly couple. They may be old but they're sharp as tacks. Each time it happened they refused to give them a tip which according to them, pissed off the driver.

When I first heard about an alternative, I decided to give it a shot and started sending them home in an Uber. I was immediately impressed that minutes after the trip I received an email with the amount and a map showing the exact route the driver took. I could even follow their progress in real time so I knew when to call them to make sure they got home safe.

I haven't sent them home in a regular taxi since and they've never been driven the long way home.

 

[solidness]

That's news to me. Usually I see them running yellow lights (and reds!).

Just an other champion that knows everything! Cabbies make 10 x the money moving than on waiting time.

Taxi meter on the dash or in the hand like Uber, what makes them different? NOTHING, but as they don't have the same regulations to follow, sure then can offer better rates sometimes! Good part of uber drivers are ex taxi drivers, so let uber take overs, and eventually pay more for your fair! Put your drunk woman in the uber car save a couple bucks, no cameras,3 uber x drivers charged with sexual assault. Or better yet get in to a massive accident, no commercial insurance coverage till date, and you can go after the broke ass part time driver. Let me know how that goes. Majority of the public is after cheaper fairs, and like the app understood, but it will come with a price.

I am sorry, but most the reply to treads about the taxi business are just passengers, and have no clue what goes on in the background of this business, and just feed off of others bullshit views!

 

[**Sophie**]

Why do you have to take an airport taxi from the airport? Why do thy not allow regular cabs to pick you up?

 

[d_jedi]

Taxis have really priced themselves out of the market. Cabs are damned expensive! I've had friends from out of town do a double take when they look at the meter.

From a consumers point of view, uber is simply better. Request a ride on your phone, car shows up a few minutes later, and you're billed automatically on your CC when you reach your destination. And the cost is significantly less than a cab. I've used uber a couple of times, and I wouldn't hesitate to use it again. There's no reason why I'd take a cab instead of uber.

Now, that's not to say uber is perfect. Far from it. But they have exposed the inefficiencies of the taxi cartel and laid its flaws bare for all to see.

City council needs to get out of the way and let the free market decide. For sure, regulations should be in place to ensure safety. And fares should be capped so people aren't gouged. But beyond that, the city should take a hands off approach. There's no reason a taxi license should be worth 10s of thousands of dollars because of artificial scarcity.