415000 years of temperature change.....true or false?

asuran

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The graph does fluctuates up and down.
So yes, it does change.

Not sure if the measuring devices at the time were accurate or not tho. The thermometer was only invented 2-3 hundred years ago and the graph is only a reverse projection of what it most likely could have been.

And yikes! That link is to a spirituality blog. I was hoping it is a scientific one.
 

bazokajoe

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I think alot of this "science " is just guess work.
Yes they are very educated scientist,but who was around to verify these temps?
Are these the same scientist who fear monger about global warming,but at the same time tell us that the world was alot hotter than it is now when the dinos were walking around.
Yes I do believe man has contributed some to global warming.but have more belief that it's just a natural cycle of of planet warming and cooling.
 

Frankfooter

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I think alot of this "science " is just guess work.
Yes they are very educated scientist,but who was around to verify these temps?
Are these the same scientist who fear monger about global warming,but at the same time tell us that the world was alot hotter than it is now when the dinos were walking around.
Yes I do believe man has contributed some to global warming.but have more belief that it's just a natural cycle of of planet warming and cooling.
Think of the worlds climate like a teeter totter, it can balance and stay relatively stable, as it has for the last 10,000 years or so, but you can also start it swinging crazily by jumping on it.

We just dumped millions of years of dead dino's CO2 on the end of the teeter totter, so yes, its moving.
Just because it changes naturally doesn't mean you want to make it change even more.
 

bishop

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Those peaks in temperature I can explain them. The first peak was after the first great flood; god had to increase the temperature to dry everything out. The 2nd peak was again god sending down another flood and then raising the temperature to dry everything out. The last peak was due to the atlanteans detonating all their nuclear weapons into the atmosphere.

The alternative to my explanation is unfathomable, one would have to stupid enough to believe that it has been both hotter and cooler in the past all without external influences such as man made CO2.
 

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Your graph matches up to the Vostock temperature graph, so yes the answer is true.
We are at the tail end of another interglacial in an endless cycle of glacial maximums and retreats.

 

bishop

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You should really pick a better article to support your BS AGW arguments, that article attributes past climate change (much bigger climate swings than we experience today) primarily to changing solar activity. AGW supporters dismiss solar activity as a tangible influence on climate because if solar activity has an influence then their BS case for CO2 emissions being the primary driver in climate change becomes much weaker.

So to summarize your viewpoint; for the past 400k years solar activity has been the primary driver of climate, then as soon as the IPCC publishes some bombastic BS in 1998 then CO2 is now the primary driver and solar activity is not.
 

Frankfooter

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You should really pick a better article to support your BS AGW arguments, that article attributes past climate change (much bigger climate swings than we experience today) primarily to changing solar activity. AGW supporters dismiss solar activity as a tangible influence on climate because if solar activity has an influence then their BS case for CO2 emissions being the primary driver in climate change becomes much weaker.

So to summarize your viewpoint; for the past 400k years solar activity has been the primary driver of climate, then as soon as the IPCC publishes some bombastic BS in 1998 then CO2 is now the primary driver and solar activity is not.
If you read the article you'd note that the influence of man made CO2 from the start of the industrial revolution to date is already 10 times the influence of solar at its largest. Which is why with just solar it can create massive changes, but it will take 10,000 years but with man made CO2 and greenhouse gases we feel its effects now. And after only 1 century we've already committed to 2ºC in change, which is a big change in the climate.
 

bishop

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You do know that the graph with the blue, orange, and red lines are computer simulations and not real right?
 

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It is not technically accurate since polar ice caps means we are still in tail end of an ice age
Planets temperature has been alot hotter in the past
 

bishop

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The article, look at the article you posted, look at the graph showing CO2 vs temperature, that is the graph I am talking about, it is a simulation. Nothing in that article supports your claims made in post 11.
 

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If you read the article you'd note that the influence of man made CO2 from the start of the industrial revolution to date is already 10 times the influence of solar at its largest. Which is why with just solar it can create massive changes, but it will take 10,000 years but with man made CO2 and greenhouse gases we feel its effects now. And after only 1 century we've already committed to 2ºC in change, which is a big change in the climate.


So let me get this straight,...man made CO2 has been responsible for the increase in temp. for 100 years,...which would include 1910 thru 1945,...???

Were the hell do you get this stuff,...???

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Frankfooter

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Yah it's something like that, which makes the next few hundred years very scary. I won't be here but the data is there, and unless we get ahold of this believe you me, the future generations will be buying one way tickets to Mars because earth as we know it will not be the same and most likely not in a good way.

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So let me get this straight,...man made CO2 has been responsible for the increase in temp. for 100 years,...which would include 1910 thru 1945,...???

Were the hell do you get this stuff,...???

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Yah it's something like that, which makes the next few hundred years very scary. I won't be here but the data is there, and unless we get ahold of this believe you me, the future generations will be buying one way tickets to Mars because earth as we know it will not be the same and most likely not in a good way.
Just to be clear, we are not doing anything nor will we. Rich nations (which emit most Co2) are not willing to become poorer to cool the planet.

 
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