You still haven't answered my question. I'll reserve further judgement until I hear the answer.
Got a ticket for driving with no insurance...what to expect?
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The second is a particularly silly example, but aren't they both irresponsible, as you said? And again, you're the one proposing they both be punished equally, not me. I haven't spoken anywhere about legal punishment in this thread, although I've certainly been vehement about my low opinion of the conduct and decision.
Consciously placing a gun in a baby's crib might have some bizarre similarity to consciously choosing to write a cheque for a car-payment instead of insurance but none at all with absent-mindedly forgetting to lock the front door.
Try this one: You leave your front door unlocked when you go to the supermarket for 20 minutes; you leave the gun-safe where your target pistols are stored unlocked while you're clean your hunting rifle in the other room.
Gonna say you just 'fucked up' when your baby daughter investigates either of those unlocked doors? And who's gonna cover the bills for the police search? And what will you say when that repentant and weeping driver says he has no insurance? Let's not even bother with the gun-safe example.
Irresponsible is irresponsible. Getting away with minimal cost is just dumb luck*. We can't run our traffic system or our society on just dumb luck. And we don't.
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*I re-considered that: You could get away with it because you intelligently calculated the risk. Sorta like you figuring this wouldn't be the day your daughter climbed the crib bars for the first time. But evidence is the OP wasn't a good risk-calculator, because he got caught. Most of us are no better. We passed that insurance law because the guys who calculate risks like the OP are even worse fuck-ups when they pretend to be actuaries than when they pretend to be good drivers. It's not the responsible drivers who keep insurance adjustors busy.
No that is not at all true...
You require additional coverage if accident involved an uninsured driver
In many cases they would NOT get anything
Some bizarre ideas you keep here
Ok instead I run your kid over while insured
So what?
Getting cash certainly will not resurrect your kid
Driving uninsured certainly does not make you a more dangerous driver
Not driving at all is of course safer, but whether you are insured or not has no effect on this
You introduced the mathematical equation of 'irresponsible is irresponsible'... now you contradict yourself by claiming there are levels if irresponsibility, all with their unique risk and consequence. You're talking circles around yourself.
He just doesn't get it... you are at least the 4th person that has attempted rational thought with him... I am sure you will be unsuccessful as well.
Nope, irresponsible is irresponsible. I just pointed out you'd tried to equate absent-mindedness with deliberate lethal recklessness, and invented the opinion about punishment which you tried to attribute to me.
If I'm reading you and booty who you horned in on correctly, you think I'm being over-harsh on the OP because no harm was done. Perhaps, but nothing indicates he won't do the same again tomorrow, or be equally stupid and irresponsible about a greater risk. Or that some equally deficient thinker won't see him as a clever example to follow.
Enough of that and soon no one does the right thing except when the cops are watching, and we've got way too much of that tearing our society apart already. Guys like that cost everyone of us more in the end than if we can somehow get them to do right from the start.
Which means being responsible, like a functioning adult, not a fuck-up with the thought processes of a punk-ass kid.
So you can claim that spilling a coffee is 'fucking up', but I can't claim that leaving your door unlocked while you run to the supermarket is irresponsible?
You're full of shit.
Actually I did say leaving your door unlocked was irresponsible. Are you saying spilled coffee's a tragic catastrophe? Or has legal consequences?
I can't figure out what you and booty think is wrong with calling over-pouring your coffee 'fucking up'. But you both seem to want to excuse uninsured driving—which the OP called fucking up—like few dribbles in a saucer, which was my comparison. Perhaps it's time one of you actually committed to somehow defining that vague slang instead of knotting your gotchees, just because someone doesn't read it the way you and your buds do.
To me 'fucking up' is trying to make light of admitting you … well, 'fucked up' by putting what was once an un-sayable and overly-awful word to it. Like the guy who said, " I just couldn't help myself, I was … well, fucked up" meaning he was a horndog, or a drunk or both. Sorry, a hangover may have fucked the guy up and made his coffee hand shake. He decided not to write the rubber cheque to the insurance and buy gas instead. He still hasn't said I won't fuck up again.
And your eyes are brown.
Dude, take your meds... you're losing your mind... YOU introduced the coffee cup analogy... post 57 to refresh your memory.
One could argue you drive more carefully when you have no insurance so as to not attract attention of the police and not wanting to get into even deeper shit if you are in an accident. Some how I have a feeling the OP was driving without a valid sticker.....
True, and so I re-worded my post, but you still have the original to crow about.
You also still haven't added anything to the discussion since you wanted to equate putting your loaded pistol in a child's crib with absent-mindedness; your obsession with coffee cups since then isn't interesting.
But perhaps the coffee accounts for the brown eyes.
I have no obsession with coffee or the related receptacles, the coffee thing is all on you.
You still don't get it... you claim that being irresponsible is being irresponsible, regardless of the degree of risk or consequence.
Hence your statement, "irresponsible is irresponsible".
I tried to reason with you by giving you a real world example... you irresponsibly leave your door unlocked (I never ever suggested it was due to absent-mindedness), or you irresponsibly put a loaded gun in your child's crib.
Both are the same according to your equation, and both should be punished equally, correct?
I've certainly heard that rationale from more than one drunk driver. Tried it myself back in the day, and sadly I was drunk enough to buy into that nonsense. Like a drunk judging he's OK to drive, the guy who claims he'll be extra-careful so he won't be caught is the same guy whose ordinary level of 'careful' already got him into his trouble.
Like the OP, and me, we also hear of such folks getting caught. All too often with the consequences of their negligent and irresponsible stupidity passing on to the rest of us to pay for and clean up. Fortunately in his case and mine with only legal, not medical or funeral costs.
No, as I said already above, both are irresponsible but they equate no better than spilled coffee and uninsured driving. When you've read that reply we can discuss it, and the stuff you've since introduced about punishment and disregard for risk or consequences if you'd like.
Are you saying not having insurance has an intoxicating effect? If you really believe that then you should stop driving because you are old and your reactions have slowed, so you are danger to everyone. So get off the road.
Missing payments or not, the insurance company is obligated under contract to send the OP a registered letter stating what date the insurance will terminate if the outstanding balance
is not payed. Right now he speaks of two weeks. Is this from the time his policy officially ended and did he get a registered letter stating a date??
Don't even waste your time with this anymore. This guy is so out lunch that you can't even explain a basic concept to him. He still thinks a piece of paper in your glove box makes you safer driver. He also still can't wrap his head around the fact that the only person the OP would have screwed is himself, but keeps implying his actions affect others on the road. At this point... I'm not even sure if old jones knows what car insurance is.
Forgive me, I am no law expert and for being harsh but If I was the judge I would never let you drive. Take away your license for good.
More or less. I don't believe he thinks he did anything wrong and the only thing causing him to go out to buy insurance now is that he got caught.What aren't you getting about this?
He has not grovelled :hail: and is not contrite enough in making his confession to Father Fuji.
