Another man shot in the back while fleeing police
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Mens rea, that it was obviously accidental does make a difference as to Criminal Charges. However, there is certainly going to be civil liability.
Only a sleazy lawyer would make it a defense, that someone "by mistake" fired a gun instead of a Tazer. Come on, a trained LE officer.
I will try that next time: "Your honour, I thought it was my sons toy gun I had in my hand"
i wonder if any criminal used the defense, "i only shot the person because i was outta breath and full of adrenaline and therefore my judgement was not right..i just wanted to shoot him with a watergun..i swear" ... it would be laughed at in court..
I'm sorta perturbed to be the first to comment this victim was not just an unarmed man, but merely one who had harmlessly fled after a traffic stop. When did deadly force become an acceptable tactic for police who need simply to stop a non-violent suspect guilty of a misdemeanour at most. He left the car behind, surely it would hold all the clues any officer with as much brains as testosterone would need to calmly track the guy to his home. Or wait for him at the impound.
But just imagine if Frank the Fleet-foot had bought into the crap doctrine that Everyone Carrying Makes Everyone Safer. The officer might then be a legitimate hero. But a dead one. Still, the department would still have its Taser™.
To paraphrase the ever-wise Asterix, "These Americans with their guns sure are crazy."
But just imagine if Frank the Fleet-foot had bought into the crap doctrine that Everyone Carrying Makes Everyone Safer. The officer might then be a legitimate hero. But a dead one. Still, the department would still have its Taser™.
To paraphrase the ever-wise Asterix, "These Americans with their guns sure are crazy."
That's not the circumstances here.
I think you're referring to the one last week.
So many recently they are unfortunately getting hard to keep track of
Here's a brief transcript of the mans last words before he died and the cops response.
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/04/13/us/tulsa-shooting-eric-harris-f-your-breath-reactions/index.html
Thanks for pointing that out; by the CNN account, it's still in no way a justifiable response to any sort of real threat the victim presented. What it does read like is an enraged cop clumsily using whatever was the most force available merely to end resistance, and who cares if that's deadly force which kills the guy.That's not the circumstances here.
I think you're referring to the one last week.
So many recently they are unfortunately getting hard to keep track of
Are you writing about the same incident?
It states right in the quoted article that Eric Harris a "PCP-addled felon who had days prior sold methamphetamine to an undercover officer -- ran from authorities after trying to sell an illegal handgun during an undercover sting."
"were not in their normal states of mind because of the elevated stress of apprehending the suspect, according to a Tulsa, Oklahoma, investigator."
The guy was on the force for what is probably a very long time, let's see what his record is like. I'm gonna guess that this was inadvertent because of this fight/flight syndrome and it was an accident.
Otherwise he would have just stopped running, drawn the gun and shot him.
They charged him so the rest of the city doesn't start causing shit and looting.
The guy was on the force for what is probably a very long time, let's see what his record is like. I'm gonna guess that this was inadvertent because of this fight/flight syndrome and it was an accident.
Otherwise he would have just stopped running, drawn the gun and shot him.
They charged him so the rest of the city doesn't start causing shit and looting.
