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Pedophilia in Britain ‘woven into the fabric of society’ – Theresa May

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Pedophilia in Britain ‘woven into the fabric of society’ – Theresa May


Published time: March 14, 2015 15:26
As the UK has launched a new-judge led inquiry panel to investigate a pedophile ring operated in 1980s, the Home Secretary warns the allegations are just a “tip of an iceberg” and the problem is “woven, covertly, into the fabric of our society.”

Following a spate of allegations concerning the abuse of children by adults, many of who abused their positions of power and status, Home Secretary Theresa May said Britons still do not appreciate the “true scale of that abuse.”

Writing in the Telegraph, May warned that the investigation into predators of children will “lead into our schools and hospitals, our churches, our youth clubs and many other institutions that should have been places of safety…”

Following Thursday’s announcement of a four-person panel to investigate the criminal activities against minors, May said Justice Lowell Goddard would be empowered to “compel witnesses and the removal of any cut-off date from the Terms of Reference” allowing Goddard to track the evidence “wherever it takes her.”

The original inquiry, which was delayed after two chairs were forced to stand down, was set up to investigate allegations of a pedophile sex ring made by the now deceased Conservative MP Geoffrey Dickens, operating in Westminster during the 1980s.



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May said she had personally met with young survivors and understood that their lives would be so much harder due to the “pain and distrust that had become a part of them.”

May wrote: “In my discussions with older victims and survivors and their representatives, I began to realize how abuse is woven, covertly, into the fabric of our society.”

She then relayed a meeting she had with one of the victims of past abuse, who told her: “Get this inquiry right and it will be like a stick of Blackpool rock. You will see abuse going through every level of society.”

“I fear she is right. I have said before and I shall say again, that what we have seen so far is only the tip of the iceberg,” May said.

Aside from public institutions, the probe may also lead to the highest levels of British society.

Following allegations that British celebrity and former BBC presenter Jimmy Savile had violated hundreds of children and adults over the span of his lengthy career ("Giving Victims a Voice" organization reported that over 400 people had filed complaints against Savile), allegations of a Westminster pedophile ring possibly involving many well-known MPs have surfaced.



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At least 40 UK politicians complicit in alleged Westminster 'pedophile ring' – report


In July 2014 Peter Mckelvie, a whistleblower who kicked off UK police pedophile probe Operation Fernbridge, disclosed a list compiled by police of current and former politicians suspected of participating in the child sex abuse.

He revealed that as many as 40 British MPs and peers either knew about or took part in the Westminster “pedophile ring.”

Mckelvie, who spent more than 20 years compiling evidence of alleged child abuse by people in authority claimed there was enough evidence to arrest at least one senior politician, the Daily Telegraph reported in July 2014.

“I truly believe it represents a once-in-a-generation opportunity and that once its work is done, we will never look at society in the same way again,” May wrote.

READ MORE: Cover up? Review of Home Office handling of Westminster child sex allegations slammed

The Home Secretary said: “Where there is evidence a person has abused their position – no matter how high or how low that position – it will be passed to the police to investigate. So if there has been a cover-up, we will uncover it.”

Yet, she questions why some people don’t understand the need for an inquiry. “What’s the point?” they say. “It’s so long ago and we know it all now. Leave it in the past where it belongs.”

Meanwhile, hundreds of registered sex offenders have gone missing in the UK.

A Freedom of Information request by the Press Association has revealed that the whereabouts of 396 convicted offenders are unknown to police. Some have been at large for over a decade.
 

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Pedophilia in Britain ‘woven into the fabric of society’ – Theresa May
What the Hell does the Home Secretary's statement have to do with your pet fantasy?

Further as to the Home Secretaries remarks, I'd not be surprised to find it is worse a problem in many other Western Countries than we want to acknowledge.
 

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What the Hell does the Home Secretary's statement have to do with your pet fantasy?

Further as to the Home Secretaries remarks, I'd not be surprised to find it is worse a problem in many other Western Countries than we want to acknowledge.

‘woven into the fabric of society’ is code for the Peers and Royals.

Other western countries do not have a monarchy, or at least not one as powerful as the british monarchy.

But I am not surprised that you are defending them.
 

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‘woven into the fabric of society’ is code for the Peers and Royals.
Only in your world is that what it means, rather than what it says. Those in the U.K. recently convicted or under investigation have been Actors, Musicians, Politicians and the like, not members of the Royal Family or hereditary peers or their close families.
 

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They have big problems with Pakistani's in Britain, last year there was a big scandal, 1400 children were ignored by the police because they were trying to be politically correct and avoid implicating Muslims.

Why Did British Police Ignore Pakistani Gangs Abusing 1,400 Rotherham Children? Political Correctness

A story of rampant child abuse—ignored and abetted by the police—is emerging out of the British town of Rotherham. Until now, its scale and scope would have been inconceivable in a civilized country. Its origins, however, lie in something quite ordinary: what one Labour MP called “not wanting to rock the multicultural community boat.”

The result of this has been that police forces lean over backwards to avoid the accusation of racism, while social workers will hesitate to intervene in any case in which they could be accused of discriminating against ethnic minorities. Matters are made worse by the rise of militant Islam, which has added to the old crime of racism the new crime of ‘Islamophobia’. No social worker today will risk being accused of this crime. In Rotherham a social worker would be mad, and a police officer barely less so, to set out to investigate cases of suspected sexual abuse, when the perpetrators are Asian Muslims and the victims ethnically English. Best to sweep it under the carpet, find ways of accusing the victims or their parents or the surrounding culture of institutionalised racism, and attending to more urgent matters such as the housing needs of recent immigrants, or the traffic offences committed by those racist middle classes.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogersc...ing-rotherham-children-political-correctness/
 

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LickRus is of course entirely correct I was entirely too fixated on Danmand's response to the Home Secretary. Beside the high profile Actors, Musicians, Politicians and the like, almost all of the sexual predator gangs in England discovered over the past five years have been Pakistanis/Asians.

Even as LickRus posted, the true disgrace is that many Police Services particularly in areas with significant Pakistani/Asian populations have failed to follow-up on reports of such abuse out of concern that they would be perceived as being engaged in racial/ethnic profiling.

Although it is not a sex crimes case, I'm aware of one incident in the past three years where in a small Midlands village, several men attempted to steal the lead from the roof of the Parish Church. Fortunately it was a small enough village that the men and vehicle (highly racist profiling mind you) were seen as suspicious. Indeed the thieves were Pakistanis/Asians from Birmingham 59 miles/95 km away.
 

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LickRus is of course entirely correct I was entirely too fixated on Danmand's response to the Home Secretary. Beside the high profile Actors, Musicians, Politicians and the like, almost all of the sexual predator gangs in England discovered over the past five years have been Pakistanis/Asians.
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Arabs in the Gulf area actually let adults marry children, its something well known and comes with the blessings of Imams.

Check out the video of this 10 year old Yemeni girl pleading and arguing for herself saying its wrong, its heart breaking.


A stunning debate on television in the Middle East featured a 10-year-old Yemeni “bride” who was ordered by her parents into a contract marriage and an Islamic cleric who argued that such arrangements are ordinary.

The cleric said he would “marry her (off) for sure” if she has “reached puberty.”

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/10-year-old-bride-argues-marriage-not-for-children/#lM7gjVHEPuhyS0Y0.99
 

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11011551/Former-royal-aide-on-abuse-charge.html

Appears to have gone nowhere since last August. Is alleged to have occurred forty years ago. Is alleged to have occurred in a private residence in southwest London. If someone who works at 24 Sussex Drive or the White House is charged with a crime which occurred at their own residence, does that mean the Prime Minister or the President knew about it?
 

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LickRus is of course entirely correct I was entirely too fixated on Danmand's response to the Home Secretary. Beside the high profile Actors, Musicians, Politicians and the like, almost all of the sexual predator gangs in England discovered over the past five years have been Pakistanis/Asians.

Even as LickRus posted, the true disgrace is that many Police Services particularly in areas with significant Pakistani/Asian populations have failed to follow-up on reports of such abuse out of concern that they would be perceived as being engaged in racial/ethnic profiling.

Although it is not a sex crimes case, I'm aware of one incident in the past three years where in a small Midlands village, several men attempted to steal the lead from the roof of the Parish Church. Fortunately it was a small enough village that the men and vehicle (highly racist profiling mind you) were seen as suspicious. Indeed the thieves were Pakistanis/Asians from Birmingham 59 miles/95 km away.
Trying to defend the indefensible, by diverting attention to brown people. Right on Cue, Aardie.

The scandal that the Home Secretary is referring to, is about predatory Pedophilia by the ruling class, as best exemplified by Peers and the Royals. There aren't many Pakistanis amongst them.
 

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Danmand until you are able to produce a clear and concise statement from the Home Secretary accusing the Royal Family or frankly anyone else besides those already mentioned there is no reason to prolong your agony.
 

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Danmand until you are able to produce a clear and concise statement from the Home Secretary accusing the Royal Family or frankly anyone else besides those already mentioned there is no reason to prolong your agony.
Your diversionary tactic of claiming that she is referring to Pakistanis in the higher level of society is not flying, Aardie.

Find a better defense for your beloved royal pedophiles.

PS: Good thing we do not live in Thailand.
 

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Your diversionary tactic of claiming that she is referring to Pakistanis in the higher level of society is not flying, Aardie.

Find a better defense for your beloved royal pedophiles.
What the Home Secretary actually wrote:

The Daily Telegraph
14 March 2015

This week marked a new beginning for the independent panel inquiry into child sexual abuse. The announcement on Thursday of a four-person panel, the confirmation of the power to compel witnesses and the removal of any cut-off date from the Terms of Reference, means the chairman, Justice Lowell Goddard, can now take the inquiry forward, following the evidence wherever it takes her.

We already know the trail will lead into our schools and hospitals, our churches, our youth clubs and many other institutions that should have been places of safety but instead became the setting for the most appalling abuse. However, what the country doesn’t yet appreciate is the true scale of that abuse.

And that is quite understandable. I have only learnt about the extent and breadth of the problem since I first announced an overarching inquiry into whether public bodies and other non-state institutions had failed in their duty of care towards children.

It is a matter of public record that the inquiry had a difficult beginning. We did not realise the degree to which survivors mistrusted the political establishment. And we set up the inquiry in the way Whitehall always sets up inquiries. But it wasn’t enough for survivors to have the inquiry, its chairman and its terms of reference presented to them as a fait accompli. We needed to work with survivors if we were going to get those things right. It was through this collaboration that my understanding of this complex issue grew.

I learnt the way in which words and phrases can unintentionally cause distress. I was asked not to use the word “historical” in relation to child sexual abuse as to every person who has suffered there is nothing “historical” about what happened to them. They live with the knowledge and the consequences of their abuse each and every day of their lives.

It was explained to me that while the majority of people who have been abused prefer the term survivors, some prefer the term “victim” as there are many people who don’t survive.

I met young survivors (they prefer the term and, certainly, they are no longer children) and saw how the lives that lay ahead would be so much harder as a result of the pain and distrust that had become a part of them. In my discussions with older victims and survivors and their representatives, I began to realise how abuse is woven, covertly, into the fabric of our society.

During one of my first meetings with survivors, one lady said to me: “Get this inquiry right and it will be like a stick of Blackpool rock. You will see abuse going through every level of society.” I fear she is right. I have said before and I shall say again, that what we have seen so far is only the tip of iceberg.

When I set up this inquiry I did so because the need for such a probe was clear. There was the systematic abuse of vulnerable girls in Derby, Oxford and towns around Britain; the growing concerns about an alleged Westminster paedophile ring and the crimes committed by Jimmy Savile and others who abused their celebrity status.

In recent years, we have watched the slow trickle of allegations become a flood. Yet, incredibly, some people still question whether we need an inquiry. “What’s the point?” they say. “It’s so long ago and we know it all now. Leave it in the past where it belongs.” But how on earth are we to learn lessons for the future if we don’t address the wrongs of the past?

The victims and survivors who have had the courage to speak out are clear that they have done so for one common reason – to save the next generation of children from the abuse they suffered. That is what this inquiry is for. Justice Lowell Goddard will look at abuse that has taken place in state and non-state institutions in England and Wales and determine why it was possible for that abuse to take place.

This means that where there has been a failure to protect children from abuse, we will expose it and we will learn from it.

The inquiry won’t probe individuals but where there is evidence a person has abused their position – no matter how high or how low that position – it will be passed to the police to investigate. So if there has been a cover-up, we will uncover it. And if perpetrators of child sexual abuse are found, they will be brought to justice.

The inquiry won’t examine abuse that has taken place within the family but it is my hope that by confronting the issue head on, it will encourage more people to come forward and report such abuse to the authorities. And I hope and believe it will give all victims and survivors a voice. For too long nobody listened, nobody wanted to admit the darkness in our midst.

It is the job of the inquiry to get to the truth, to examine the how, why, where and when of institutional abuse. I truly believe it represents a once-in-a-generation opportunity and that once its work is done, we will never look at society in the same way again."


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...-in-the-UK-runs-far-deeper-than-you-know.html

Please also note the photograph with the caption: "Rotherham, where around 1,400 children were sexually abused over 16 years"
 

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-s-accuser-Virginia-Roberts-s-case-court.html
(See the eighth and ninth paragraphs)

The Forbes article has an unusual take on all of this.

There, however, was already a thread dealing with this.

To summarize the pertinent points:

No criminal charges have been brought, nor has a civil lawsuit been filed against the Duke of York.

This entire action is an attempt by Ms. Roberts to become a party (Impleader) to a lawsuit brought by two other women against the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of Florida regarding the plea agreement it reached with Jeffrey Epstein.

At this point Ms. Roberts merely wishes to have the Duke of York testify.

Unless Ms. Roberts decides to now say that any sexual relations were non-consensual, it is only in the U.S. Virgin Islands that statutory rape would come into play.
 

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Please tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, Aardie



At least 40 UK politicians complicit in alleged Westminster 'pedophile ring' – report


In July 2014 Peter Mckelvie, a whistleblower who kicked off UK police pedophile probe Operation Fernbridge, disclosed a list compiled by police of current and former politicians suspected of participating in the child sex abuse.

He revealed that as many as 40 British MPs and peers either knew about or took part in the Westminster “pedophile ring.”

Mckelvie, who spent more than 20 years compiling evidence of alleged child abuse by people in authority claimed there was enough evidence to arrest at least one senior politician, the Daily Telegraph reported in July 2014.

“I truly believe it represents a once-in-a-generation opportunity and that once its work is done, we will never look at society in the same way again,” May wrote.

: Cover up? Review of Home Office handling of Westminster child sex allegations slammed

The Home Secretary said: “Where there is evidence a person has abused their position – no matter how high or how low that position – it will be passed to the police to investigate. So if there has been a cover-up, we will uncover it.”
Yet, she questions why some people don’t understand the need for an inquiry. “What’s the point?” they say. “It’s so long ago and we know it all now. Leave it in the past where it belongs.”
 

Aardvark154

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Please tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, Aardie



At least 40 UK politicians complicit in alleged Westminster 'pedophile ring' – report


In July 2014 Peter Mckelvie, a whistleblower who kicked off UK police pedophile probe Operation Fernbridge, disclosed a list compiled by police of current and former politicians suspected of participating in the child sex abuse.

He revealed that as many as 40 British MPs and peers either knew about or took part in the Westminster “pedophile ring.”

Mckelvie, who spent more than 20 years compiling evidence of alleged child abuse by people in authority claimed there was enough evidence to arrest at least one senior politician, the Daily Telegraph reported in July 2014.

“I truly believe it represents a once-in-a-generation opportunity and that once its work is done, we will never look at society in the same way again,” May wrote.

: Cover up? Review of Home Office handling of Westminster child sex allegations slammed

The Home Secretary said: “Where there is evidence a person has abused their position – no matter how high or how low that position – it will be passed to the police to investigate. So if there has been a cover-up, we will uncover it.”
Yet, she questions why some people don’t understand the need for an inquiry. “What’s the point?” they say. “It’s so long ago and we know it all now. Leave it in the past where it belongs.”
What is different from what I posted back in # 4 and #7?

Only in your world is that what it means, rather than what it says. Those in the U.K. recently convicted or under investigation have been Actors, Musicians, Politicians and the like, not members of the Royal Family or hereditary peers or their close families.
You seem to be running in circles, you made a completely unsubstantiated accusation and ever since have desperately been attempting to find evidence to back it up all the while throwing mud into the water.
 
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