The sexodus: Men giving up on women and checking out

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I think it is a more simpler thing that men don't care much about status either way whereas women do.
Women love a guy with a powerful job and when guys don't start crawling over them when they obtain the same they assume they are intimidated whereas guys are more interested in the traits of the person, is she cute, is she fun to be with, does she have good character, can she suck the chrome of a trailer hitch, whereas women are more interested in external bullshit, [does he have money, does he have status, will my friends respect me more if I go out with him etc]
Excellent point, and the massive difference is difficult for most genders to grasp.

If a woman is attractive to me she is attractive regardless of whether she is bagging groceries at the supermarket or CEO of a Fortune 500 company. Her status is a non-factor, although it is arguable that it should be.

Women take any positive element of a man and spread it around to other parts of him. Good looks make a guy funny (even when he's not), fame makes him handsome (even when he's not), humor gives him character (even when it doesn't).

Both of these behaviors are so ingrained we don't even notice them and it is very difficult to imagine a mind-set without them.

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This is true; we do like to solve problems.

Have you ever considered that you're part of the solution and part of the problem? As a provider, you add more supply to the market---at a price. But as a woman, you restrict supply to keep the price high for the extraction of rents. As you accept money for your attentions, we can infer that the true amount of supply that you are willing to provide without payment is much less than the amount supplied with payment.

This reminds me of a related issue I observed on the interwebs: In all the articles and blogs I've ever read about combating prostitution, there was always a lot of virtual ink devoted to curbing demand by men for the attention of women, ie. men should reduce their demand to equal the supply provided. I never saw anyone suggest that women should stop taking the money. After all, that's half the equation, isn't it? If providers would stop taking the money, ie. increase the quantity supplied to where it matched demand, then no money would be exchanged. And, in a larger sense, if women would just increase the supply overall, to the point that there was a surplus and all men were perpetually sated, sweaty, and out-of-breath, that would solve the so-called problem of prostitution. Wouldn't it?
I honestly wonder if a woman like LisbethNova is actually capable of understanding what you've written.
 

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To be honest, a lot of this talk over how radical feminist types have pussified everything in sight seems to come from the same mentalities that gripe about how you can't nonchalantly plow highways through the city anymore because of "activists", or can't build anything anymore without jumping the hurdles of environmental assessment, neighbourhood impact studies, historical and archaeological reports, high-minded milquetoasts who call the proposal you're offering "ugly and inappropriate", etc etc etc.

Maybe those of you disgruntleds are just ugly, tasteless, insensitive jerks. And those SPs who know your identity probably pity you more than anything...
 

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To be honest, a lot of this talk over how radical feminist types have pussified everything in sight seems to come from the same mentalities that gripe about how you can't nonchalantly plow highways through the city anymore because of "activists", or can't build anything anymore without jumping the hurdles of environmental assessment, neighbourhood impact studies, historical and archaeological reports, high-minded milquetoasts who call the proposal you're offering "ugly and inappropriate", etc etc etc.

Maybe those of you disgruntleds are just ugly, tasteless, insensitive jerks. And those SPs who know your identity probably pity you more than anything...
I think that you're mistaken and that your portrayal of the disgruntled folks in this thread as knuckle-draggers is highly inaccurate. Most of the men in this thread come across as thoughtful, insightful, sensitive, self-aware, and analytical. These are precisely the type of men that perform environmental assessments and neighbourhood impact studies.
 

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Boys: The Under-mentioned Victims of Child Sex Trafficking and Sexual Exploitation

Since the Trafficking Victims Protection Act of 2000, a national conversation has begun on the horrors of human trafficking. However, the majority of this attention has been given to female victims of sex trafficking and the commercial sexual exploitation of girls. The Commercial Sexual Exploitation of Children (CSEC) in New York City estimates that as many 50% of the victims of sexually exploited children in the United States are boys (Curtis, Terry, Dombrowski, & Khan 2008). In April 2013 End Child Pornography and Trafficking (ECPAT) USA released a ground breaking report calling attention to an aspect of a social problem that gets very little attention. Below is an excerpt from ECPAT-USA’s newly released discussion paper “And Boys Too.”

“While there has been some increased awareness about sexually exploited boys in the U.S. over the past several years, most law enforcement and services providers often miss them entirely or view them as too few to be counted or not in need of services. The little notice given to boys primarily identifies them as exploiters, pimps and buyers of sex, or as active and willing participants in sex work, not as victims or survivors of exploitation. Discussion of boys as victims of survivors of CSEC is frequently appended to a discussion about commercially sexually exploited girls. A panel discussion about commercial sexual exploitation often ends with these words: “…and boys too.”” (ECPAT USA 2013 p.4)

ECPAT USA’s study discovered four key factors that have led to the lack of identification of male victims of CSEC and sex trafficking.

The unwillingness of boys to self-identify as sexually exploited due to shame and stigma about being gay or being perceived as gay by family and community.
A lack of screening and intake by law enforcement and social services agencies rooted in the belief that boys are not victims of CSE.
Outreach by anti-trafficking organizations to areas, venues and tracks known for male prostitution.
Oversimplification of the reality that boys are not generally pimped hides the needs and misinforms potential services.

ECPAT USA’s general findings led to several recommendations moving forward: the urgent need to raise awareness about sex trafficking, CSEC and boys, and the need to develop male specific victims’ services and outreach methods targets specifically towards male victims. The report emphasized that more research is needed to better understand the specific needs of male victims of sex trafficking and CSEC, in order to help law enforcement better identify them and to assist social service agencies in developing services to meet their specific needs.


http://www.socialworkhelper.com/201...g-and-sexual-exploitation/?Social+Work+Helper
 

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Boys: The Under-mentioned Victims of Child Sex Trafficking and Sexual Exploitation

Since the Trafficking Victims Protection Act of 2000, a national conversation has begun on the horrors of human trafficking. However, the majority of this attention has been given to female victims of sex trafficking and the commercial sexual exploitation of girls. The Commercial Sexual Exploitation of Children (CSEC) in New York City estimates that as many 50% of the victims of sexually exploited children in the United States are boys (Curtis, Terry, Dombrowski, & Khan 2008). In April 2013 End Child Pornography and Trafficking (ECPAT) USA released a ground breaking report calling attention to an aspect of a social problem that gets very little attention. Below is an excerpt from ECPAT-USA’s newly released discussion paper “And Boys Too.”

“While there has been some increased awareness about sexually exploited boys in the U.S. over the past several years, most law enforcement and services providers often miss them entirely or view them as too few to be counted or not in need of services. The little notice given to boys primarily identifies them as exploiters, pimps and buyers of sex, or as active and willing participants in sex work, not as victims or survivors of exploitation. Discussion of boys as victims of survivors of CSEC is frequently appended to a discussion about commercially sexually exploited girls. A panel discussion about commercial sexual exploitation often ends with these words: “…and boys too.”” (ECPAT USA 2013 p.4)

ECPAT USA’s study discovered four key factors that have led to the lack of identification of male victims of CSEC and sex trafficking.

The unwillingness of boys to self-identify as sexually exploited due to shame and stigma about being gay or being perceived as gay by family and community.
A lack of screening and intake by law enforcement and social services agencies rooted in the belief that boys are not victims of CSE.
Outreach by anti-trafficking organizations to areas, venues and tracks known for male prostitution.
Oversimplification of the reality that boys are not generally pimped hides the needs and misinforms potential services.

ECPAT USA’s general findings led to several recommendations moving forward: the urgent need to raise awareness about sex trafficking, CSEC and boys, and the need to develop male specific victims’ services and outreach methods targets specifically towards male victims. The report emphasized that more research is needed to better understand the specific needs of male victims of sex trafficking and CSEC, in order to help law enforcement better identify them and to assist social service agencies in developing services to meet their specific needs.


http://www.socialworkhelper.com/201...g-and-sexual-exploitation/?Social+Work+Helper
That is so sad and I think it is the same for domestic abuse as well. Although more and more awareness is being bought to the forefront, it is certainly not enough.

I know some men in here are total woman haters and judge me without knowing me simply because I have tits and a vagina. It makes me wonder how many of them have suffered abuse from women. Maybe not sexually abuse, but I do believe that the constant emasculation of men in marriages is a form of verbal and emotional abuse. It is never discussed, it is never dealt with and is 100% wrong. It completely affects men in some of the most harmful of ways and can turn good men into horrible misogynists. Just as abuse to women can and does turn many good women into feminist nazi's.

What is worse, even with some help and support, these men and women can not seem to get out of the defenses they have built up and it affects them for the rest of their life. They often become abusers as well and it just furthers the cycle of hate between the sexes.
 

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What is worse, even with some help and support, these men and women can not seem to get out of the defenses they have built up and it affects them for the rest of their life. They often become abusers as well and it just furthers the cycle of hate between the sexes.
Very well said ! And the truth.
 

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Excellent point, and the massive difference is difficult for most genders to grasp.

If a woman is attractive to me she is attractive regardless of whether she is bagging groceries at the supermarket or CEO of a Fortune 500 company. Her status is a non-factor, although it is arguable that it should be.

Women take any positive element of a man and spread it around to other parts of him. Good looks make a guy funny (even when he's not), fame makes him handsome (even when he's not), humor gives him character (even when it doesn't).

Both of these behaviors are so ingrained we don't even notice them and it is very difficult to imagine a mind-set without them.

KK

Notice how male strippers are usually attached to a profession. A ripped policeman, fireman, doctor, etc. Men are tools and the more a tool can do, the more valued it is. A broken or dull tool is worthless.
 

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Notice how male strippers are usually attached to a profession. A ripped policeman, fireman, doctor, etc. Men are tools and the more a tool can do, the more valued it is. A broken or dull tool is worthless.
Oh fuk, common give me a break !!!!
 

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"The sexodus: Men giving up on women and checking out"

Men have choices re sex with women such as:

1. civvies/casual/short term relationships....if a civvie accuses you falsely of rape, you might be looking at serious time in prison, eh? low risk for huge problem

2. marriage/common law "wife"...lose half of every asset you own in a divorce? high risk for huge problem

3. pay for sex...What is the most probable result of a first offense conviction, a fine? Lawyers' fees, if you don't defend yourself? low risk for small problem

4. just say no/autoeroticism/cyber sex...relatively no risks, no problems

5. sex doll...requires an initial investment...see 4
 

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"The sexodus: Men giving up on women and checking out"

Men have choices re sex with women such as:

1. civvies/casual/short term relationships....if a civvie accuses you falsely of rape, you might be looking at serious time in prison, eh? low risk for huge problem

2. marriage/common law "wife"...lose half of every asset you own in a divorce? high risk for huge problem

3. pay for sex...What is the most probable result of a first offense conviction, a fine? Lawyers' fees, if you don't defend yourself? low risk for small problem

4. just say no/autoeroticism/cyber sex...relatively no risks, no problems

5. sex doll...requires an initial investment...see 4

1. civvies/casual/short term relationships....if a civvie accuses you falsely of rape, you might be looking at serious time in prison, eh? low risk for huge problem. - Never had that problem ! Why? I'm not sure. But I am convinced being a Gentleman plays big !

2. marriage/common law "wife"...lose half of every asset you own in a divorce? high risk for huge problem - Again my divorce is going smoothly, I still respect her, after all, she will always be the Mother of our child.

3. pay for sex...What is the most probable result of a first offense conviction, a fine? Lawyers' fees, if you don't defend yourself? low risk for small problem. If you play it smart. there will be no problems

4. just say no/autoeroticism/cyber sex...relatively no risks, no problems - Just be careful with your credit cards !!!!

5. sex doll...requires an initial investment...see 4 - Never would go there, if, I don't know her. Stupid move!!
 

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I predict porn and escorts will replace dating entirely for most 20-something males in the next 10 years, if they haven't already. Guys are tired of competing for fat chicks who think they deserve Zyzz. Better to head to the local MP and ask Mamasan if she has any new girls.
 

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I predict porn and escorts will replace dating entirely for most 20-something males in the next 10 years, if they haven't already. Guys are tired of competing for fat chicks who think they deserve Zyzz. Better to head to the local MP and ask Mamasan if she has any new girls.

Dating is already pretty much dead. People just hang out and if the guy has game and His shit together, she will hopefully put out. If a man is taking a chick out, its a sign that he is not attractive. The hot bartender or drug dealer don't gave to jump through those hoops and feed users free dinners.
 
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