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Titalian

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I'm am considering seeing providers again after quitting 5 months ago.

PROBLEM:
I meet an SP at the beginning of 2013 and continue to see her twice a month regularly until July of 2014. i had a serious infatuation and could not stop thinking about her,spent lots of waking hours messaging her and was even so addicted i was constantly viewing her online profile here to see what she was doing, could say i was beginning to stalk her, thats when i knew i had a problem.

HEARTBREAK:
I decided to take the plunge and risk the relationship by asking her for "off the clock" activities :frusty:. She declined and wanted to keep things the way they were which was strictly on a professional level. things were never the same after that conversation, she realise i wanted more and i realise she was just in it for the money.

SOLUTION:
I took an offshore job down in the caribbean to get away from the temptations of wanting to see her again and now i'm set to return to ottawa and back to my old job there and just when i thought i have heard the last of her or any feelings towards her
i got a christmas greeting and a message about how she misses me and wants to see me again but i dont want to be taken for a "fool" again.

i meet and marry my college sweetheart of 15 years so this SP was only the second women i have ever had a long term relationship with, i never thought i would fall for this girl but i was on the rebound after separating from my wife and wanted someone to fill that void temporarily, did'nt think i would get so emotionally attached.


ADIVCES:

Should i visits other SPs ?
Should i seek this SP and hope my infatuation with her is over and we can progress in a professional manner ?
Should i just stay away? and look elsewhere like dating sites?
Was i scaring her before?
I'm an openminded person.

replys by both SPs and experience players would be greatly appreciated on how to avoid this from recurring again in the future.

I'm not using my old terb account by choice to remain anonymous. have not logged in over 3months.
My Gaud, you are in a predicament, And judging by your post, you still have feelings for her. And that's not good. I would avoid her completely for the time being' There are also
many unanswered questions, one very important one is what are your age differences?? This plays a big roll especially with the young ones. Naw right now the way your feeling,
I would play the field, you would not believe the incredible women out there. This is the only way to get this one, out of your system for the time being. Never forget, You dealt
your card already. Time to move on !! Question ? That txt she sent you, did it have your name name attached to it?
 

explorerzip

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No he's not he's separated
Yes, I know now that the OP's been separated from his wife for a while, but he hasn't "separated" from this one particular SP. I think that's why he's asking if it's ok to see other SP's.
 

Titalian

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Yes, I know now that the OP's been separated from his wife for a while, but he hasn't "separated" from this one particular SP. I think that's why he's asking if it's ok to see other SP's.
Your right, I missed your post on that
 

explorerzip

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Should be a sticky at the top of the forum and required reading for membership on the board.
Just on my observations alone, it seems that the ladies have a "easier" time maintaining a professional distance compared to the men. And women are supposed to be the emotional ones?
 

pablice

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For some of these ladies their EI is off the charts high. If you really pay attention the ones with high EI especially on terb exhibit very similar patterns and tend to be very popular and successful . Generally , they have an advantage over men here and it has been debated many times.

http://m.psychologytoday.com/blog/t...04/are-women-more-emotionally-intelligent-men

http://www.forbes.com/sites/margiew...emotional-intelligence-how-to-raise-your-e-q/

Just on my observations alone, it seems that the ladies have a "easier" time maintaining a professional distance compared to the men. And women are supposed to be the emotional ones?
 

Titalian

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Just on my observations alone, it seems that the ladies have a "easier" time maintaining a professional distance compared to the men. And women are supposed to be the emotional ones?
The fact is most of the women not all, who advertise on here dislike the boards any board, and only do so, to have access to us. Its part of business. like anything else.
 

Terminator2000

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Just on my observations alone, it seems that the ladies have a "easier" time maintaining a professional distance compared to the men. And women are supposed to be the emotional ones?
that is because they have so many more options than we do. when we're hitting on women, we have maybe like 5 options. 1 probably being the one we want. the other 2 being the women that are average but boring looking. and the 2 being just available and not so good looking...

when it comes to women,

they have 300-400 options. guys basically asking them out or hitting on them or trying to get to know them, talk to them. and more guys trying to get to know them everyday ontop of the 400 other guys daily. at the local coffee shop, at clubs, at bars, at school, at work.

thats why they can easily forget guys and maintain completely emotional independencny, because there's always 300 guys waiting to replace us.
 

Titalian

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that is because they have so many more options than we do. when we're hitting on women, we have maybe like 5 options. 1 probably being the one we want. the other 2 being the women that are average but boring looking. and the 2 being just available and not so good looking...

when it comes to women,

they have 300-400 options. guys basically asking them out or hitting on them or trying to get to know them, talk to them. and more guys trying to get to know them everyday ontop of the 400 other guys daily. at the local coffee shop, at clubs, at bars, at school, at work.

thats why they can easily forget guys and maintain completely emotional independencny, because there's always 300 guys waiting to replace us.
Absolutely - :clap2:
 

massman

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This should be your response to her.
"Hey great to hear from you. Hope you have had a great Christmas. As for seeing each other again, I always had a great time with you. Too great as you might remember. I know you weren't interested in taking things beyond the "professional" level and I respect that. I'm worried that if we start seeing each other, even as sp/ client those feelings in me will reappear so I don't think it is a great idea for me to go there again. If you are interested in something else let me know and we can talk about it. you know I think you are great, but it's hard for me to seperate the emotional connection from the business one if you know what I mean. "

Keep in mind sp's are just like anyone else in any profession. If you are a doctor, you like to see the patients that are nice, friendly and appreciate your work, not the ones who complain about every little thing and who you are worried are going to sue you. If you are a mechanic, of course you'd rather fix the car of the cute blonde who accepts your estimate no questions asked rather than the knowitall who thinks he knows cars better than you, and argues about everything on the repair bill. You will do your best to make these great clients repeat ones, making life easier and more enjoyable for you while still earning a living. What I'm saying is don't necessarily take her message as any more than this.

I've met a few escorts that I really got on well with. That given the right circumstances, we could actually be something more, but I realized where to draw the line. They like seeing me and when they come to my town or me to theirs we let each other know, make an extra effort to get together and have a great time. But realize that it is a great business relationship, with someone who you also like to be around. Nothing more.

As for seeing other SPs tread carefully. Be aware that This is a business relationship with each one. Do t go into it with anything more in mind. You are probably a guy like me who enjoys a connection with a sP but know where to draw the line, and avoid getting hooked on one girl.
 

Jasmine Raine

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that is because they have so many more options than we do. when we're hitting on women, we have maybe like 5 options. 1 probably being the one we want. the other 2 being the women that are average but boring looking. and the 2 being just available and not so good looking...

when it comes to women,

they have 300-400 options. guys basically asking them out or hitting on them or trying to get to know them, talk to them. and more guys trying to get to know them everyday ontop of the 400 other guys daily. at the local coffee shop, at clubs, at bars, at school, at work.

thats why they can easily forget guys and maintain completely emotional independencny, because there's always 300 guys waiting to replace us.
Umm... that doesn't really have anything to do with escorting and keeping a professional distance. Everything you wrote was based on dating, not P4P.
 

explorerzip

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Umm... that doesn't really have anything to do with escorting and keeping a professional distance. Everything you wrote was based on dating, not P4P.
Yeah, I was trying to say that "escorts" have an "easier" time maintaining professional distance compared to men. But that also applies to the civilian world too.
 

james t kirk

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that is because they have so many more options than we do. when we're hitting on women, we have maybe like 5 options. 1 probably being the one we want. the other 2 being the women that are average but boring looking. and the 2 being just available and not so good looking...

when it comes to women,

they have 300-400 options. guys basically asking them out or hitting on them or trying to get to know them, talk to them. and more guys trying to get to know them everyday ontop of the 400 other guys daily. at the local coffee shop, at clubs, at bars, at school, at work.

thats why they can easily forget guys and maintain completely emotional independencny, because there's always 300 guys waiting to replace us.

Statistically, there are slightly more women in Canada than men. More as you grow older. So purely mathematically, women have less opportunity than men.

I understand what you're saying about women having 300 or 500 options. But they really don't. What they have is 500 guys who want to fuck them. Not 500 guys who want to commit to them. Totally different thing. Women, even unattractive women can fuck pretty much anyone they want if they set their minds to it. But they can't necessarily have any more than that.

The problem comes down to unrealistic expectations. 3's don't date 9's.

Most men are pretty much solely attracted to looks and then you hope (usually incorrectly) that that rest will fall into place. Most men, especially under the age of 40 are looking for a good looking woman. That's pretty much it. A man will do a lot of stupid shit to keep a good looking woman. So a good looking woman has lots of opportunities for lots of sex partners because she's good looking and no other reason. Good looking women are a commodity in a way. Like a high end car, a high end woman attracts a lot of male attention just based on her looks. A great many average looking guys or below average looking even are extremely picky when it comes to a woman's looks. They only want the hot ones (so there's lots of competition for your good looking piece of ass). Yet these guys are nothing special themselves (short, fat, balding as goes the stereotype). There is lots of opportunity for love out there, you just may need to look past a little junk in the trunk as they say and most guys won't. A young beautiful woman has an insane amount of power over men strictly based on her looks.

Conversely, many young women have completely unrealistic expectations as well and here's where it's probably a lot worse for men. Women (say under 40 as well) seem to think that they are entitled to it all. And by that I mean that they think that they should be in a serious relationship with a John F Kennedy type guy. Good looking, 6 feet tall plus, hair of a god, high IQ, high wager earner, professional, funny, romantic, sexual dynamo with the perfect cock, masculine, macho, yet sensitive to their needs, you name it. They want it all.. There are guys out there like this, but they are less than 1% of the male population. These women have been raised with the notion of "you should have it all." The problem sets in about age 36 or 37 when they still haven't found Mr. Perfect no matter how many rocks they have turned over looking for him and their biological clock is just screaming. Then you will start hearing them say, "I won't settle" and "better off alone than poorly accompanied" and BS like that. I always shrug and say, "well, you're going to get your wish then" . Whereas young males are only interested in one thing - good looks, women are looking for everything.

So getting back to what you said, you're basing your assertion on the fact that a huge number of men are chasing a very small number of young beautiful women. The problem is compounded by even average women who are looking only for Mr. Perfect.
 
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