LARGE!!!!
Three minute warning, at 3am.
Douchebaggery is right.
Nobody believes them anyway. Even the people that defend them, they can't be that stupid.
More Israeli douchbaggery....
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Three minute warning, at 3am.
Douchebaggery is right.
Nobody believes them anyway. Even the people that defend them, they can't be that stupid.
Of course not, they act with hatred and violence, like I said THEY ARE THE SAME. But you always tell me Israel is a nation of laws, and laws are supposed to prevent mob rule. But not in the case of Israel. It is just a violent angry mob, just like the Palis. Israel is only constrained because it cannot lose political support of the US, if it embarked in wholesale slaughter even American Jews would abandon them and without the US, Israel is no more.So when people see their loved ones butchered while praying you expect the to just accept it?
If Israel had your (lack of) morals, they would have killed or evicted every Arab from the region. Israel refuses to stoop to the levels despite their enemies such as Hamas openly stating that is their goal.
LARGE!!!!
Three minute warning, at 3am.
Douchebaggery is right.
Nobody believes them anyway. Even the people that defend them, they can't be that stupid.
And even when they claimed it was a mistake they refused to compensate the family. Showing quite clearly this was an act of punishment and to make an example which makes it COLD BLOODED MURDER.
This has been covered extensively and is not disputed by serious adults.How was Hamas using palestinians as human shield again?
Even the Carter Center has acknowledged that Hamas used human shields last summer, although it questioned whether or not it was a Hamas policy.
What an idiotic conclusion. Not surprisingly, he based much of his argument on the fairy tale that Hamas isn't using civilian areas for its armed bases. And it's no surprise his report was done for the U.N., which has been a total train wreck in this area. It's actually amusing how the UNHRC is always shocked -- shocked! -- to discover that Hamas is firing rockets from schools and hospitals.He concludes the warnings are just an attempt to indemnify them from war crimes.
As for Israel, the reality is that it sets some of the highest ethical standards of any country engaged in military conflict. The supreme court ruling cited by Gryfin confirms that.
Gee, that's a convenient explanation.Of course Israel could kill more Palis, and they would like to. But politically they cannot.
I guess that allows you to claim that Israel wants to kill more Palestinians even though there's no evidence of any such desire. As I said, how convenient. Unfortunately, those of us who believe in evidence-based conclusions are forced to disagree with you.
This has been covered extensively and is not disputed by serious adults.
Even the Carter Center has acknowledged that Hamas used human shields last summer, although it questioned whether or not it was a Hamas policy.
What an idiotic conclusion. Not surprisingly, he based much of his argument on the fairy tale that Hamas isn't using civilian areas for its armed bases. And it's no surprise his report was done for the U.N., which has been a total train wreck in this area. It's actually amusing how the UNHRC is always shocked -- shocked! -- to discover that Hamas is firing rockets from schools and hospitals.
As for Israel, the reality is that it sets some of the highest ethical standards of any country engaged in military conflict. The supreme court ruling cited by Gryfin confirms that.
Gee, that's a convenient explanation.
I guess that allows you to claim that Israel wants to kill more Palestinians even though there's no evidence of any such desire. As I said, how convenient. Unfortunately, those of us who believe in evidence-based conclusions are forced to disagree with you.
Gaza is half the size of Toronto and as densely populated. So.. it's really not possible to place weapon away from civilians. That is just nonsense. Also, just about every war conducted in an urban area has resulted in placing of weapons close to civilians. Show me one case where that has not happened.
As for killing Palis, not everyone in Israel wants the same thing. Some would wipe them out, others benefit from their use as cheap labor, others benefit from the threat of Hamas, and some Israelis think their country are douchbags. Lots of evidence and opinion out there. Why did the IDF only give these people 3 mins warning? Why did they flatly refuse to compensate them? Why why why?
There is a BIG difference between INCIDENTALLY placing weapons near civilian areas, and INTENTIONALLY hiding them in schools.Gaza is half the size of Toronto and as densely populated. So.. it's really not possible to place weapon away from civilians.
My 7 year old niece can understand that difference, can you?
So what, every Israeli member of the IDF has their assault rifle at home to facilitate mobilization, so almost every Israeli home has military weapons in it. Personally, I think hiding weapons in schools, and hospitals is less morally bankrupt then bombing those schools and hospitals....even though both display poor morality. What is worse, hiding behind a child or pulling the trigger that sends the bullet through that childs head? The fact that Israel has shown little reservation in killing children on rooftops as human shields shows really how hate filled their society has become.There is a BIG difference between INCIDENTALLY placing weapons near civilian areas, and INTENTIONALLY hiding them in schools.
My 7 year old niece can understand that difference, can you?
You really are twisted.So what, every Israeli member of the IDF has their assault rifle at home to facilitate mobilization, so almost every Israeli home has military weapons in it. Personally, I think hiding weapons in schools, and hospitals is less morally bankrupt then bombing those schools and hospitals....even though both display poor morality. What is worse, hiding behind a child or pulling the trigger that sends the bullet through that childs head? The fact that Israel has shown little reservation in killing children on rooftops as human shields shows really how hate filled their society has become.
Do you actually believe the drivel that comes out of your mouth? The sad thing is, I think you do.
You are equating IDF members having their firearms in their homes to Hamas storing missiles in schools and hospitals?
You think that hiding behind a child is more noble than trying to kill the cowardly threat that is hiding behind said child?
Israel is morally bankrupt because human shields unfortunately die, but Hamas is worthy of glory for using human shields?
You are pathetic.
I think killing children is more morally decrepit then putting them in harms way. BTW settlers are human shields. I am amazed you will spend so much effort trying to rationalize and justify the killing of children and innocents, yet you say I am somehow twisted. A military weapon is a military weapon. When is the line crossed? I would argue that IDF assault rifles have killed FAR MORE Palestinians then any Hamas rockets. Also some of those assault rifles have grenade launchers, some have sniper rifles.. where do you draw the line? Hamas victims are mostly random. Israel KNOWS who is living in a house, they can see what they are shooting at from the cameras on their drones, yet they still push the button sending children to their deaths. COLD FUCKING BLOODED.You really are twisted.
Do you actually believe the drivel that comes out of your mouth? The sad thing is, I think you do.
You are equating IDF members having their firearms in their homes to Hamas storing missiles in schools and hospitals?
You think that hiding behind a child is more noble than trying to kill the cowardly threat that is hiding behind said child?
Israel is morally bankrupt because human shields unfortunately die, but Hamas is worthy of glory for using human shields?
You are pathetic.
You have just proven that it is YOU that is morally decrepit. Trying to justify the use of children as bullet-proof vests.I think killing children is more morally decrepit then putting them in harms way. BTW settlers are human shields. I am amazed you will spend so much effort trying to rationalize and justify the killing of children and innocents, yet you say I am somehow twisted.
I think killing children is more morally decrepit then putting them in harms way. BTW settlers are human shields. I am amazed you will spend so much effort trying to rationalize and justify the killing of children and innocents, yet you say I am somehow twisted. A military weapon is a military weapon. When is the line crossed? I would argue that IDF assault rifles have killed FAR MORE Palestinians then any Hamas rockets. Also some of those assault rifles have grenade launchers, some have sniper rifles.. where do you draw the line? Hamas victims are mostly random. Israel KNOWS who is living in a house, they can see what they are shooting at from the cameras on their drones, yet they still push the button sending children to their deaths. COLD FUCKING BLOODED.
Exactly, israel puts its own civilians at harms way by placing them in those illegal settlements yet nobody fucking complains about israels policy.
When did hamas use children as bullet proof vest?You have just proven that it is YOU that is morally decrepit. Trying to justify the use of children as bullet-proof vests.
Go crawl back into your basement, troll.When did hamas use children as bullet proof vest?
You are being very kind,...Go crawl back into your basement, troll.
FAST
They both do it, both are the same. Its like trying to say Satan is more evil then Beelzebub. Israel is certainly more polished and sophisticated, but when you cut though the PR and spin, they are all the same. Does it really make a big difference if children die in a suicide bombing or from a hellfire missile? Both people who pushed the button knew children were gonna die, yet they still pushed the button. I see the evil in both positions, both commit indefensible acts, you somehow think Israel has a right to kill thousands of innocent people. I say it is all evil. You are just being a bigot. I have no emotional attachment to either side.You have just proven that it is YOU that is morally decrepit. Trying to justify the use of children as bullet-proof vests.
I see. So you're saying the line of argument in that article you posted (post #200) is idiotic garbage and no intelligent person should pay any attention to it.Gaza is half the size of Toronto and as densely populated. So.. it's really not possible to place weapon away from civilians.
For the first time in this thread, I agree with you.
The Geneva Convention takes a different view. It says the war crime was committed by the side that used the civilians in the schools and hospitals to shield their weapons.Personally, I think hiding weapons in schools, and hospitals is less morally bankrupt then bombing those schools and hospitals.
Ahh so you bring out the old Geneva convention when Israel regularly violates it.. hahahahaha. As for my post #200, Israel hit the house with a precision weapon TWICE from a drone. So they had live video of what was going on....and this is the kind of thing you defend. Willful killing of children and a 1 year old infant. Man you are a bonafide baby killa.I see. So you're saying the line of argument in that article you posted (post #200) is idiotic garbage and no intelligent person should pay any attention to it.
For the first time in this thread, I agree with you.
The Geneva Convention takes a different view. It says the war crime was committed by the side that used the civilians in the schools and hospitals to shield their weapons.
Nice try. In your previous post, you said Hamas has no choice but to fire its weapons from civilian areas. If that's the case, then the argument in that article is total garbage.Ahh so you bring out the old Geneva convention when Israel regularly violates it.. hahahahaha. As for my post #200, Israel hit the house with a precision weapon TWICE from a drone. So they had live video of what was going on....and this is the kind of thing you defend. Willful killing of children and a 1 year old infant. Man you are a bonafide baby killa.
Does anyone else find it amusing that the guy claims it's a war so Jewish civilians will be killed but started a thread about Israel denying access to members of the enemy?
If he really thought that everything is justified in war, he'd say that Israel survived the war in 1949 and won the subsequent wars so the Palestinians deserve to be treated like losers. Most moral people would disagree (and it would take away from notty's anti-Israel agenda).
If he really thought that everything is justified in war, he'd say that Israel survived the war in 1949 and won the subsequent wars so the Palestinians deserve to be treated like losers. Most moral people would disagree (and it would take away from notty's anti-Israel agenda).
No matter how you try to sway it, 25,000 rounds shows that Israel was actively trying to NOT kill civilians. If they had there would have been 50,000+ dead.I wonder if you would feel the same if your mothers brains were splattered all over your face..... Israel knows roughly at what rate it can kill Palis to keep international outrage at a simmer and not outright rage. The goal is to inflict collective punishment by spreading the casualties around. They killed a very similar number of people when they last attacked Lebanon.
And after all, you said it's a war.
