Racism from Providers
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As far as I am concerned black SPs with no black men policy regardless of age restriction can go to hell, I don't need their service. One thing with emergence of bill c-36 they are the one fucked up along with other back page girls, the well established ones are less likely going to be affected by this law!
Never said there is racism concerning black SPs or white escorts for that matter just pointed out in my above post that those black girls should know better to filter out clients instead of saying no black men in general( it's inferiority complex at its best). As for white escorts with such policy I don't really care and doesn't bother me at all.
Yes, you've just answered your own question. Lets be fair now, most of these claims are made by very young and vulnerable women or women who have just started out in this biz.
And as time goes on and they decide to pursue this way of life their criteria turns into a more sophisticated process which is called screening where by all men no matter what race
are put through the ringer. Before we point fingers, we've got to understand the dynamics of this profession.
Troll ?????? I don't think so, especially coming from a lurker.
People have prejudices which they had before entering their occupations which influences how they interact with certain groups. People also acquire experiences, positive and negative with certain groups which may cause them to exclude certain groups entirely if they can get away with it. Prostitutes, especially independents are such a group. They are tax exempt and the Ontario Human Rights Code doesn't apply to them. Lots of business who not provide service to certain groups if they could get sway with it. Not to long ago in Toronto, restaurants and night clubs had signs up barring certain groups. Certain groups still cannot get membership to certain clubs even today. Government policies do not apply to anti- racial discrimination laws to the world's oldest profession. Now since john's are soon to be criminals, they cannot complain about racist advertising by prostitutes can they under C36 LOL, or can they? Fortunately for john's, for every racist prostitute in the GTA will not see you, there is one who will.
There is just so much that's wrong in this thread... I don't know where to begin. It's overwhelming really.
Not reporting your income from prostitution does not mean that you have tax exempt status.
You are mentioning:
(1) Ontario Human Rights Code/Canadian Human Rights Code
(2) Government policies do not apply to anti-racial discrimination laws to the world's oldest profession
(3) John are "soon to be criminals"...
(1) In the case of Bedford et al. v. Canada (Attorney General), 2010 ONCA 814 did you learn of any parts of Bedford's at al. argument that centred on the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms?
Please look at these links for the answer:
(the link immediately below is the CanLII link to the legal ruling)
- http://canlii.ca/t/2dp6k
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_(Attorney_General)_v._Bedford
(2) What is Bedford et al. fighting for? Isn't her fight that government policies and laws should allow sex workers to do what they do safely? By the previous prostitution laws being struck down by the Supreme Court of Canada, and the federal court saying that laws need to be changed, you think that government policies do not apply?
(3) Do you think that being a 'John' is currently legal? Go into your local police station, tell them you are a 'John', give them a list of the sex providers you were with, and then see what happens.
racism
Line breaks: ra¦cism
Pronunciation: /ˈreɪsɪz(ə)m
Definition of racism in English:
noun
[mass noun]
1The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races: theories of racism
More example sentences
1.1Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one’s own race is superior: a programme to combat racism
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/racism
A lot of people here now say "stop sulking", 'get over it', "quit crying", etc. Do you people think that Ontario Human Right's law will be changed and it will still be legal to make judgements about a person's race? Heck, I'd bet that even asking for a 'John' to tell a sex worker his/her race could be construed as information used in an unjust selection process and open to action at the Ontario Human Rights level. Nobody here is crying, sulking, lamenting over whatever racist providers. A lot of people here seem to think that overthrowing Canadian Human Rights/Canadian Criminal Code laws would be possible and allow "personal preference", "choice", (read: racism) etc. to continue. You think that it'll be okay with the judicial system/government to have sex work permitted and permit sex providers to refuse clients based on race [or as many here call it "personal preference", "choice", "who they are attracted to" (this is my favourite term - it's used like what's happening is really just dating!)?]
You can't fight to be included under the Human Rights law/Criminal Code and then say other Canadian laws needn't apply to you or you need to follow them. You want to pick and choose what laws to follow and apply to your 'entertainment' activities? What many people on here are saying is that Canadian Rights/Laws need apply to all Canadians equally (thus the Bradford v. Canada ruling), however, in the application of said rights there is one group's rights that should be put first, regardless of the previous argument that all Canadians rights should be equal.
Lomotil and the other dudes... just wow... keep on refusing to accept racism happens in sex work. I think many Canadians just can't accept that racism is still a large part of our culture (be it from Aboriginal rights, to 'stop and search' tactics, long form birth certificate demands for Obama, etc.). People don't want to accept it and refuse to see modern society for what it still is.
Titalin still didn't answer my questions:
Do you think that being black was a factor in those young fellows harassing the women? Do you think harassment is a cultural problem or a issue tied to a person's ethnicity/skin colour?
You might be right. It's strange how it's being written about on here.
You can't be serious? What you said was meant as a joke, right?
Not reporting your income from prostitution does not mean that you have tax exempt status.
You are mentioning:
(1) Ontario Human Rights Code/Canadian Human Rights Code
(2) Government policies do not apply to anti-racial discrimination laws to the world's oldest profession
(3) John are "soon to be criminals"...
(1) In the case of Bedford et al. v. Canada (Attorney General), 2010 ONCA 814 did you learn of any parts of Bedford's at al. argument that centred on the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms?
Please look at these links for the answer:
(the link immediately below is the CanLII link to the legal ruling)
- http://canlii.ca/t/2dp6k
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_(Attorney_General)_v._Bedford
(2) What is Bedford et al. fighting for? Isn't her fight that government policies and laws should allow sex workers to do what they do safely? By the previous prostitution laws being struck down by the Supreme Court of Canada, and the federal court saying that laws need to be changed, you think that government policies do not apply?
(3) Do you think that being a 'John' is currently legal? Go into your local police station, tell them you are a 'John', give them a list of the sex providers you were with, and then see what happens.
racism
Line breaks: ra¦cism
Pronunciation: /ˈreɪsɪz(ə)m
Definition of racism in English:
noun
[mass noun]
1The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races: theories of racism
More example sentences
1.1Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one’s own race is superior: a programme to combat racism
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/racism
A lot of people here now say "stop sulking", 'get over it', "quit crying", etc. Do you people think that Ontario Human Right's law will be changed and it will still be legal to make judgements about a person's race? Heck, I'd bet that even asking for a 'John' to tell a sex worker his/her race could be construed as information used in an unjust selection process and open to action at the Ontario Human Rights level. Nobody here is crying, sulking, lamenting over whatever racist providers. A lot of people here seem to think that overthrowing Canadian Human Rights/Canadian Criminal Code laws would be possible and allow "personal preference", "choice", (read: racism) etc. to continue. You think that it'll be okay with the judicial system/government to have sex work permitted and permit sex providers to refuse clients based on race [or as many here call it "personal preference", "choice", "who they are attracted to" (this is my favourite term - it's used like what's happening is really just dating!)?]
You can't fight to be included under the Human Rights law/Criminal Code and then say other Canadian laws needn't apply to you or you need to follow them. You want to pick and choose what laws to follow and apply to your 'entertainment' activities? What many people on here are saying is that Canadian Rights/Laws need apply to all Canadians equally (thus the Bradford v. Canada ruling), however, in the application of said rights there is one group's rights that should be put first, regardless of the previous argument that all Canadians rights should be equal.
Lomotil and the other dudes... just wow... keep on refusing to accept racism happens in sex work. I think many Canadians just can't accept that racism is still a large part of our culture (be it from Aboriginal rights, to 'stop and search' tactics, long form birth certificate demands for Obama, etc.). People don't want to accept it and refuse to see modern society for what it still is.
Titalin still didn't answer my questions:
Do you think that being black was a factor in those young fellows harassing the women? Do you think harassment is a cultural problem or a issue tied to a person's ethnicity/skin colour?
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Tell you what, home slice, this thread is waaay too long and I can't be bothered, so I apologize if this has been mentioned by you,but assuming you one of the "afflicted" minorities, denied what you see as the right to stick it in whoever you want simply because other guys get too, please PLEASE P L E A S E, file a human rights complaint.
Go on... do it...c'mon, you'll win for sure and validate your nonsensical opinion. (minor caveat: yes, sometimes it probably is just racism. tough titties)
Whats that? When push comes to shove you realize that you would have no chance of success and would look like a moron? Oh...I see.
This ain't Denny's, they can refuse you at the door or look through the peephole and decide to turn out the lights. Listing exclusions is a courtesy they provide; a time and aggravation saving mechanism for all involved.
Thank you BP pimps, thank you.
You may now get back on your soapbox. Careful though, it looks pretty flimsy.
This this is review posted by a well known and truthful member on this board and others. Read the last line of this review.
http://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?475897-Review-Jamaican-Cici-BP-5574-Gem-Perhaps
She does not see black guys because she says the OVERWHELMING majority of them are disrespectful towards her. Her words not mine...the choice is hers. Glad I seen her.
http://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?475897-Review-Jamaican-Cici-BP-5574-Gem-Perhaps
She does not see black guys because she says the OVERWHELMING majority of them are disrespectful towards her. Her words not mine...the choice is hers. Glad I seen her.
Hey douchebag, you're not my 'homeslice' and you assume that I'm an afflicted minority? You're whole post oozes prejudice.
You put word in my mouth too... my "right to stick it in whoever you want simply because other guys get too". You are a fucktard. I've said the opposite to what you claim I stand for. But hey... don't let facts stand in your way!
Learn to read jackass, you'd have seen that that I said I'm not a 'John' and could have prevented yourself from looking like as ass.
DB123 - you sure have the A, B, C's of douchebaggery down like 1, 2, 3!
douchebaggery:
1)The philosophy held by douchebags, holding that no one other than themselves (or perhaps their close associates) matters in the least bit, and thus that other human beings can and should be treated like complete excrement for little or no reason (and often for selfish reasons). Closely related to fascism, which has been practiced by control freaks such as Adolf Hitler.
2)The act of putting this philosophy into practice.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=douchebaggery
I'll give you one thing... this thread is long... why don't you make it into a pop-up book? It might be easier for you to follow that way.
Three things:
1) - on the learn to read front: I said I didn't read the whole thread and the post I quoted doesn't say you are or are not a John. Also, I didn't assume a fucking thing - I said if. I suppose for greater clarity and accuracy, I said assuming you are, which (is a fancy way of saying "if", and) in and of itself does not imply an assumption of any kind. Don't feel bad though, lots of people are not too bright, so you are hardly alone.
2) - Not a john?
3) Way to avoid everything substantive, :thumb:
(ps...not the worst lame attempt at being clever re: my handle, so a minor :clap2: for that. Next time though, try adding an image of the Jackson 5 or something)
Lurker? Lol! I can post my comments whenever I want to, you seem like a pimp putting ads "no black men "for the girls on bp. You can't claim there is no racism for every girl who posts no black men unless you are their manager!
Wrong again !! I'm their client. Pure and simple. And I have seen many of them and once in awhile we've spoken about this issue.. Read my reviews.
(1) I encourage you to read what I quoted you as saying above. You didn't assume, yet you assume, and you think "if" covers your ass?
(2) I commented previously to someone else about my own reasons for being here are my own. You needn't worry about it.
(3) You didn't have anything substantive to comment on. As I am not a 'John' I cannot claim that my rights have been infringed. Do you understand that?
About going back and adding more, I have tried to avoid that - apologies for the addition after you repllied. I know that is in bad internet form/conduct. My post on page 5 has an entry I put in the "Reason for editing" box when I saw that someone else had posted before my changes could be saved/finished.
Miss Jessica Lee & DB123, I know that my A, B, C thing was a stretch. While editing I had debated removing it. It would not have been better to add the Jackson 5 ... I just made a bad call by putting it in, and then another bad by not taking it out.
Just take is as what Miss Jessica Lee already said: 'the worst attempt at being clever in this thread'. Pardon that... I'm busy doing a lot of things while typing out on here.
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