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Things that are worth spending lots of money on, and vice versa

stinkynuts

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Now that I have quite a bit of money, I am surprised at how little I spend. Not that i am cheap, but I consider myself smart.

I don't spend money on things that I don't think are worth it. In fact, my lifestyle has barely changed since about ten years ago, when I was completely broke.

-I live in a 1 BR apartment and pay about $1000 a month including utilities

-I drive a used car, almost ten years old, but has a great V6 engine and is very fun to drive. Very reliable and has lots of options (power seats, windows, automatic climate control, side air bags, heated seats, traction control, cruise control, leather, etc.) I bought it for 11,000 about five years ago, and it still runs great. Worth about $4-5,000 now. I don't have to worry about it being scratched up, or scuffing it up when loading things in the trunk. If fact, it's so scratched up, I don't really care anymore.

-I own a used Iphone 4, which I got off of ebay. It's a great smartphone. I have a 7-11 speakout plan with data, which is only $35 a month.

-I don't have cable. Instead, have Apple TV, and use a friend's Netflix account. I can also watch broadcast TV for free with an antenna. I also watch a lot of videos on YouTube, and download movies via Torrent. Once in a while, I will splurge on a movie ticket if I really want to watch the movie on the big screen, or if the torrent quality is not good.

-My wardrobe is very plain and simple, and I'm happy with that. I buy nice clothes from the mall, but on sale, and very cheap. I buy Khaki pants from Old Navy for $20, and Tshirts (100% cotton) can be bought for about $10 each. I buy my socks and underwear at Wal-Mart.

-I buy almost whatever I want at grocery stores, and eat out whenever I feel like it (this, to me, is a nice luxury). I like to go to all you can eat sushi restaurants, and sometimes fast food joints. I'd say I spend about $400 a month total on food.

-My computer monitor, keyboard, and speakers, are 12 years old, and still working great. A few years back, I had to replace my computer for $300. The last one lasted me about 9 years or so.

-If I want a book, I can buy it, or go to the library, which is next door.

-Instead of a gym membership, I jog around the block, or lift weights in the house. I can do it whenever I want, and it's free. No expensive memberships, no wasting time driving to the gym, changing, etc...


I have no debt whatsoever, and have quite a bit in savings, which is earning me great returns, as I invested it in mutual funds.

I travel once in a while, but by coach, or drive, and stay at chain hotels, and find the lowest rate using hotel.com.

In short, although I could afford to live much more lavishly, I know that it is not worth it. I have driven VERY expensive cars (Lamborghinis, Ferrraris, Jaguars, BMWs). And my thought was, "Is that all?" Nice, but not mind blowing like I thought it would be. These cars are fast, but not THAT pleasant to drive. Why pay so much for depreciation, tax, gas, insurance, maintenance, repairs, and worry about every scratch and mileage? Why buy a house that is too big for me, and worry about all the things that come with owning a house, when I can rent worry free?

I have eaten at very expensive restaurants, and my reaction was: Nice, but I don't feel comfortable. I don't like that I have to tip $20 to someone who just brought me a dish and asked how my meal was. I love to cook, and cooking a great dish by myself at home is so much more rewarding, fun, and enjoyable. I can cook food that is restaurant quality, and love looking up great recipes on allrecipes.com, reading the reviews.

I have bought very expensive clothes, but they don't feel any better, or look that much better. They soon got stained and damaged and then they were almost worthless.


I could never see myself buying a $10,000 Rolex. Most of them don't look very good to me, and they are made of the same materials as my $500 Edifice, which is solar powered, and keeps time automatically.


I do think that if we live simply, we can save a lot of money, which we can invest and build up a large amount of savings, which will provide security and peace. Instead, I see too many people wasting their money on large houses in pricey neighborhoods, financing luxury cars at high interest rates, buying large flat screen tvs, the latest Iphone, Ipad, and laptops. They eat out at fancy restaurants, spend lots of money on wine, go on expensive vacations, send their kids to private schools, and buy expensive jewelery and clothing.


I think if you're VERY rich, then that's not really a problem. However, for most people, I can't see the justification in spending money like that. It seems such a waste. I think most of us are being brainwashed by corporations that want our money. We are trying to be cool and current, and trying to keep up with our neighbors, as it is embarrasing not to have a smartphone even if you don't need one.

This is just my thought, my way of living. I don't know about you, but I like to begin my morning with a cup of green tea at home (very cheap), then drive and wait in line at Starbucks, and spend $4 for a latte. I think it's all very pretentious, a waste, and simply not a smart way to spend money.
 

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I have eaten at very expensive restaurants, and my reaction was: Nice, but I don't feel comfortable. I don't like that I have to tip $20 to someone who just brought me a dish and asked how my meal was.
Ya had me right up until this point. But right there, you gave the game away. Yer just a cheap bastard. Not that there's anything wrong with that*, but stop trying to romanticize what you are. You're not clever and frugal, yer just a cheap bastard. Accept it and revel in it.







*yes there is
 

theycallmebruce

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You seem happy with you lifestyle, which is all that matters. Money can't buy happiness and material things certainly do not contribute to one's happiness. They say that friends, family and communities are what makes us feel valued. Also, experiences can make us happy. As for myself, I have been fortunate enough to "splurge" on material items, but this happiness is ephemeral. A few years ago, I decided to make those around me happy, hence I spend money on those I care about.
 

stinkynuts

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You seem happy with you lifestyle, which is all that matters. Money can't buy happiness and material things certainly do not contribute to one's happiness. They say that friends, family and communities are what makes us feel valued. Also, experiences can make us happy. As for myself, I have been fortunate enough to "splurge" on material items, but this happiness is ephemeral. A few years ago, I decided to make those around me happy, hence I spend money on those I care about.
Very true. I think luxury goods bring us ephemeral pleasure, but not happiness. I think family, friends, experiences with them are far more precious and meaningful. I would rather drive around in a 2000 Honda Accord, laughing and having fun with my family, than a 2014 Mercedes by myself.

As for the $20 tip, I don't think it's being cheap that I don't want to pay that much. In my country, tipping is not even allowed. Why should I pay $20 to someone who simply took my order and brought my meal? I don't mind paying $5 for good service, but if you go to an expensive restaurant, you're still required to pay 15-20%. Let's say you buy a $100 full course meal. That's $15 in taxes, plus $20 in tips. I'm saying that I'd rather cook the meal by myself for $20, since I can, and enjoy doing so. And I can't justify paying that much for tips/tax etc..
 

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As for the $20 tip, I don't think it's being cheap that I don't want to pay that much. In my country, tipping is not even allowed. Why should I pay $20 to someone who simply took my order and brought my meal? I don't mind paying $5 for good service, but if you go to an expensive restaurant, you're still required to pay 15-20%. Let's say you buy a $100 full course meal. That's $15 in taxes, plus $20 in tips. I'm saying that I'd rather cook the meal by myself for $20, since I can, and enjoy doing so. And I can't justify paying that much for tips/tax etc..
Well here in my country there is something which occurs within higher end establishments. It is called "Tipping Out". There is a movement to stop it but it exists and is a huge issue for those who don't "feel" they should tip $20 for reasonably good service.

http://howtobeagoodserver.com/tipping-out-the-debate/

For those of you who don’t know what a tip-out is, in restaurants where you’re responsible for taking money and transactions for your guests, when you finish your shift you print our your shift report or totals, and this is how you determine how much you owe (food and beverage sales) and what you have left over are your tips.

Now the tip-out is determined by your sales. For instance if you sold $1200 in sales, and the restaurants tip-out policy is 6% then you would owe $72 from your tips. Why might you ask? well you generally need to tip-out these people.
The interesting thing is I often seem to have come across people who don't see the value in tipping. Don't worry though! When I am at the table I watch every other person and correct the tip. Thank you to all those short tippers out there whom I have had the displeasure of dining with. From my point of view it is the same as not paying the taxes on the bill (had that happen a time or two also... cheap bastards!).
 

Smallcock

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You seem happy with you lifestyle, which is all that matters.
I agree with this. You seem to know exactly what you want and what you don't want, which is a great thing. The part where you say you have lots of savings and investments that are making you money was my favourite. Savings and passive income are wonderful things to have. Congrats!
 

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I have always asked myself if I want to be "the richest man in the graveyard."

Normally i considered this saying in context of working too hard, or working yourself to death too early. But what are you doing with all your savings at the very end? Obviously your day-to-day needs are met, can't you find something worthwhile to spend the extra on to enjoy it?

I'd get myself a nicer computer if i were you, at least surfing TERB would be faster. Monitors and computers have come a long way in twelve years my friend.
 

Born2Star

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OP congrats you seem to be happy about the way you live. Good.

But these kinda things are simply to each their own. People do whatever they feel happy about as long as they can afford it. There's no right or wrong.

Other than telling people about oneself, what is the purpose of this post?
 

wazup

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Depends what you consider quite a bit of money, to me that would be 750k plus, not that I'm rich or worth that, maybe just depends how old each person is. At 25 100gs was a lot, not so much now.
 

Ceiling Cat

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You seem happy with you lifestyle, which is all that matters. Money can't buy happiness and material things certainly do not contribute to one's happiness. They say that friends, family and communities are what makes us feel valued. Also, experiences can make us happy. As for myself, I have been fortunate enough to "splurge" on material items, but this happiness is ephemeral. A few years ago, I decided to make those around me happy, hence I spend money on those I care about.
Money does not buy happiness, but it buys peace of mind and the feeling of security. Lack of money many times will bring unhappiness. Money also brings choice. Health is more important than money. There are many ingredients to happiness in life. One is to take care of shit before shit happens. Money is a responsibility that can be lost if you neglect it. Take every opportunity to preserve you wealth. I buy things at Canadian Tire when I see that it is at 50%-80% off even if I do not need it at the moment. I bought an angle grinder tool years ago and it took me 3 years before I used it. Grinding the rust off an iron fence saved me hundreds if I paid someone to do it and even if I chose to do it myself it saved me time and does a better job than scraping by hand. There is a current thread on car brakes and I mentioned that high quality brake pads and disc were available in the US at half price ( Pep Boys ) any day of the week as compared to Canadian Tire. I have a set of disc and pads waiting to be installed on my car even though I do not need to change them for another 10,000 kms. Buying the brake disk and pads in the US when I had the opportunity will save me big. If you take care of your money today, your money will take care of your in the future.
 
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My uncle's favorite saying was "I dont't mind spending money, but I hate wasting money".
As long as he felt he got his money's worth, he was OK. RIP uncle Eddie.
 

SchlongConery

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I do think that if we live simply, we can save a lot of money, which we can invest and build up a large amount of savings, which will provide security and peace.... . I think most of us are being brainwashed by corporations that want our money. We are trying to be cool and current, and trying to keep up w...

I have a great deal of respect for you stinkynuts. And I am happy that you are happy with your life.

You have discovered one key to a happy life; simplicity and not being a slave to "things" and possessions. I used to buy a lot of stuff and have a lot of things. I came to realize that they became responsibilities rather than benefits. Buy and possess what you need to faclitate a happy existence, not create one. are a good example. You don't brag about how much you are "worth", rather you express how your savings provide you with the peace and security to allow you to live in peace and security.

However you asked advice on what things are worth spending money on. In your circumstances here are a few things that I might suggest would improve your happiness.

1. A nice Apple computer. Really. I used Windows and Linux PC's for many years (20+) and a few years ago I went Mac and my life really improved. Now, I use my computer to facilitate what I want to do, learn watch and create. NO work on tinkering or screwing around with the machine, anti-virus etc It just WORKS!

I travel a bit so I went with MacBooks. I love them. Presently I have a MacBook Pro Retina 13" which replaced my first MacBook I bought in 2008. I got SIX years out of this $1300 computer and sold it for $800! So it cost me $500 for six years. Under $100 a year and it worked FLAWLESSLY and it was so much easier to use.

However, I do wish that I had bought a simple 13" MacBook Air for $1,099.00 instead. I have used this and it is soooo fast and light. This machine will provide you with 5 years of pleasure and I bet you can sell it for $500 then.


2. Depending on where your apartment is and how you like living there, I'd look at maybe renting in a nicer, newer condo. It is a nice feeling to wake up in a nice, bright place that is well designed etc. There are plenty of nice (investor) rentals for $1600 a month and more will come online. Take your time and discover the neighbourhood and move to where you hardly have to drive and can walk a lot.

3. Oh yeah, and the last thing I'll suggest for you stinkynuts, is some good anti-microbial ball wash! :faint:

 

Hurricane Hank

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You had me right up to the point you said you were renting. I don't consider "renting" to be a "smart" use of money at all.
 

SchlongConery

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Renting can be very smart if you are disciplined to invest the surplus.
 

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Very true. I think luxury goods bring us ephemeral pleasure, but not happiness. I think family, friends, experiences with them are far more precious and meaningful. I would rather drive around in a 2000 Honda Accord, laughing and having fun with my family, than a 2014 Mercedes by myself.

As for the $20 tip, I don't think it's being cheap that I don't want to pay that much. In my country, tipping is not even allowed. Why should I pay $20 to someone who simply took my order and brought my meal? I don't mind paying $5 for good service, but if you go to an expensive restaurant, you're still required to pay 15-20%. Let's say you buy a $100 full course meal. That's $15 in taxes, plus $20 in tips. I'm saying that I'd rather cook the meal by myself for $20, since I can, and enjoy doing so. And I can't justify paying that much for tips/tax etc..
I tend to tip generously, but I hate the practice. To me, tipping is a recognition of fantastic service. It should never have become expected, and it should never be a significant part of the compensation package for waiters and waitresses. The damage is done though, and I can't see it going back.
 

bazokajoe

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I think doing what makes you happy and content is important.

There are lots of things I won't spend alot of money on.Like a top of the line computer,newest and latest cell phone,high end luxury car,house to big just for me.These are just some examples I can think of off the top of my head.
However,some things I will splurge on.When go on vacation I always stay in a nice hotel,buy a good camera.One of my hobbies is woodworking.Good quality tools do make a difference.

I am not going to go into my reasons for my choices or criticize other peoples choices.If you can sleep at night that's all the counts really.
 

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This reminds me of a dentist who's apartment I once visited only a few years ago. Had a rotary-dial telephone and a PC monitor from the 1980s.
 

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