I just looked through the minutes where she spoke and it doesn't mention what they are.
On a side note - I did a Google search for 'Jaffer C-36 amendments', and the C-36 thread on merb was 8th on the list.
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On a side note - I did a Google search for 'Jaffer C-36 amendments', and the C-36 thread on merb was 8th on the list.
The full transcript will be here: http://www.parl.gc.ca/ParlBusiness/Senate/Debates/Calendar.asp?Language=E&Parl=41&Ses=2
Tory prostitution bill gets Senate approval
A Conservative bill aimed at restricting the sex trade and discouraging prostitution has passed the Senate, leaving it one step away from becoming law despite warnings it will endanger sex workers and could ultimately be found unconstitutional.
Bill C-36, passed Tuesday, was tabled after the Supreme Court struck down Canada’s prostitution laws in its Bedford ruling last December. The court found the laws violated sex workers’ Charter rights to safety, and gave the government one year to put in place new laws.
In turn, C-36 largely criminalizes the buying of sex, rather than the selling, but could still lead to sex workers being charged by placing restrictions on when they can discuss a transaction. Critics, as such, have warned the new bill is also unconstitutional because it will once again endanger sex workers.
Nonetheless, the bill passed its third reading vote in the Senate on Tuesday, unaltered from the version that passed the House of Commons on Oct. 6. It now only needs royal assent, a formality, to become law before the old laws expire next month.
However, sex workers warn Bill C-36 will put them in harm’s way by limiting their ability to speak with, and screen, potential clients, thus exposing them to abuse – a part of the bill that many have warned is vulnerable to a Charter challenge. The bill also makes it illegal to publish an advertisement by a sex worker, restricting a method some use to safely select clients.
“I foresee that this is going to create a lot of violence,” said Valerie Scott, one of three sex workers behind the Bedford case. “We won’t know who we’re seeing. We’ll have to work alone and we’ll have to remain untraceable, isolated from each other. That combination is a setup for predators pretending to be our clients.”
Bill C-36 passed Tuesday after Conservative senators voted down an amendment that would have removed any criminal penalty aimed at sex workers themselves. Those penalties for discussing a sale near a school, daycare or playground remain in the bill. Bill C-36 ultimately passed “on division,” meaning senators agreed that a majority supported it but that it was not unanimous. They didn’t vote individually.
The bill will “significantly decrease and ultimately work towards the abolition of the demand for sexual services,” Conservative Senator Denise Batters said, speaking on her party’s behalf. She said the decision “responds to” the Bedford ruling, a notion Senate Liberal Mobina Jaffer disagreed with. “Consensual adult sex workers will not be safe under this bill as it currently stands,” Ms. Jaffer said during Senate debate.
Ms. Scott echoed that in an interview, saying Bill C-36 will endanger sex workers even though its penalties are mostly aimed at clients.
“What it means to me is Parliament does not take the Supreme Court of Canada’s opinion seriously,” Ms. Scott said, adding: “The old regime made it impossible for us to work in a safe way … this is the exact same thing, with different words.”
A legal challenge could be mounted on some parts of the bill as soon as it takes effect, but it may be prudent to wait for evidence to support a case against other parts of it, said Alan Young, a professor at York University’s Osgoode Hall Law School who represented Ms. Scott in the Bedford case.
“It becomes a strategic choice as to whether or not [to challenge] the obviously constitutionally flawed sections and leave the trickier ones for a later date … or whether to roll the dice and try to knock everything out on the outset,” Prof. Young said. He believes “a brain dead monkey should be able to successfully challenge” some parts of the bill, while others are more nuanced.
Sex workers say they will be at risk in the interim – as evidence is gathered for any legal challenge, or as any challenge works its way through the courts.
Follow Josh Wingrove on Twitter: @josh_wingrove
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...on-bill-gets-senate-approval/article21450839/
A Conservative bill aimed at restricting the sex trade and discouraging prostitution has passed the Senate, leaving it one step away from becoming law despite warnings it will endanger sex workers and could ultimately be found unconstitutional.
Bill C-36, passed Tuesday, was tabled after the Supreme Court struck down Canada’s prostitution laws in its Bedford ruling last December. The court found the laws violated sex workers’ Charter rights to safety, and gave the government one year to put in place new laws.
In turn, C-36 largely criminalizes the buying of sex, rather than the selling, but could still lead to sex workers being charged by placing restrictions on when they can discuss a transaction. Critics, as such, have warned the new bill is also unconstitutional because it will once again endanger sex workers.
Nonetheless, the bill passed its third reading vote in the Senate on Tuesday, unaltered from the version that passed the House of Commons on Oct. 6. It now only needs royal assent, a formality, to become law before the old laws expire next month.
However, sex workers warn Bill C-36 will put them in harm’s way by limiting their ability to speak with, and screen, potential clients, thus exposing them to abuse – a part of the bill that many have warned is vulnerable to a Charter challenge. The bill also makes it illegal to publish an advertisement by a sex worker, restricting a method some use to safely select clients.
“I foresee that this is going to create a lot of violence,” said Valerie Scott, one of three sex workers behind the Bedford case. “We won’t know who we’re seeing. We’ll have to work alone and we’ll have to remain untraceable, isolated from each other. That combination is a setup for predators pretending to be our clients.”
Bill C-36 passed Tuesday after Conservative senators voted down an amendment that would have removed any criminal penalty aimed at sex workers themselves. Those penalties for discussing a sale near a school, daycare or playground remain in the bill. Bill C-36 ultimately passed “on division,” meaning senators agreed that a majority supported it but that it was not unanimous. They didn’t vote individually.
The bill will “significantly decrease and ultimately work towards the abolition of the demand for sexual services,” Conservative Senator Denise Batters said, speaking on her party’s behalf. She said the decision “responds to” the Bedford ruling, a notion Senate Liberal Mobina Jaffer disagreed with. “Consensual adult sex workers will not be safe under this bill as it currently stands,” Ms. Jaffer said during Senate debate.
Ms. Scott echoed that in an interview, saying Bill C-36 will endanger sex workers even though its penalties are mostly aimed at clients.
“What it means to me is Parliament does not take the Supreme Court of Canada’s opinion seriously,” Ms. Scott said, adding: “The old regime made it impossible for us to work in a safe way … this is the exact same thing, with different words.”
A legal challenge could be mounted on some parts of the bill as soon as it takes effect, but it may be prudent to wait for evidence to support a case against other parts of it, said Alan Young, a professor at York University’s Osgoode Hall Law School who represented Ms. Scott in the Bedford case.
“It becomes a strategic choice as to whether or not [to challenge] the obviously constitutionally flawed sections and leave the trickier ones for a later date … or whether to roll the dice and try to knock everything out on the outset,” Prof. Young said. He believes “a brain dead monkey should be able to successfully challenge” some parts of the bill, while others are more nuanced.
Sex workers say they will be at risk in the interim – as evidence is gathered for any legal challenge, or as any challenge works its way through the courts.
Follow Josh Wingrove on Twitter: @josh_wingrove
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...on-bill-gets-senate-approval/article21450839/
This was from Oct. 21/14. I believe it was a recent media article that mentioned there were 15 proposed amendments, but I don't remember seeing an exact list of what they were.
http://mobinajaffer.ca/senate-chamber/senate-speeches/october-21-2014-second-reading-bill-c-36/
Ohhh. I see. The link I posted above will have the transcript of what was said (including the amendments)
I'm coming up from the US this weekend. Was hoping to stop by Muse for my bday & the special. This is horrible news that the Senate passed the bill. I'm unfamiliar with Canadian laws. How soon will this get Royal Assent & become law? Will it happen on my vacation?
It wasn't Jaffer who said she would introduce 15 amendments, it was Baker. It's not clear whether Baker went ahead and did this since the Globe article only mentions an "amendment" (not plural).
No worry. Even after Royal Assent there is a 30 days period before it is effective. So it won't be effective before December.
Thanks Siocnarf & MPASquared for answering my question. Basically I should live it up this trip while I still can legally.
I've already established my list of regulars. and I am gathering the names of every reputable sp i can find. I created a twitter account so I can better connect with sps. I am going to take a break from the hobby. but I'm still going to be active on the boards.
It's like Y2K and everyone is stocking up on supplies lol
but honestly, is anyone really surprised by this? We saw this coming months ago..
It's like Y2K and everyone is stocking up on supplies lol
but honestly, is anyone really surprised by this? We saw this coming months ago..
The only question now is if a court challenge is launched right when the bill receives royal accent. And if they do, will they challenge the entire bill or just more vulnerable sections. It is definitely risky to challenge the whole thing without strong evidence. If some sections are upheld, it will be very difficult and almost impossible to challenge later on down the road.
The most difficult challenge will be the aspect where it makes it illegal to purchase sex. Not much research in this area to prove what the effects would be. And probably not much conclusive research to show that most John's are not dangerous. I am sure that the advertising, communication, and material benefit prohibitions (specifically non-exploitative commercial relationships) would be pretty much a slam dunk though. But it wouldn't be much help to anyone on this forum other than escorts/mpas, and agencies/mps.
The most difficult challenge will be the aspect where it makes it illegal to purchase sex. Not much research in this area to prove what the effects would be. And probably not much conclusive research to show that most John's are not dangerous. I am sure that the advertising, communication, and material benefit prohibitions (specifically non-exploitative commercial relationships) would be pretty much a slam dunk though. But it wouldn't be much help to anyone on this forum other than escorts/mpas, and agencies/mps.
Saw on twitter that someone is saying royal assent of C36 will be today at 5 pm, and saw someone else say that some of it will come into effect immediately. Does anyone know what would come into effect now?
It's usually 30 days after royal accent then it becomes law. The old laws don't expire until mid December.
