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Cardinal Fang

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Union=all for one, one for all. Like f'rinstance the union of American states to the south of us. The quid pro quo for that loyal back-up, which any union membership entitles you to, is that you are required to follow the union rules. Or else. As long as you have, their reason for being is to defend you and other members and make the outsiders to prove their case.

The union undoubtedly has their own rules about sexual harassment and such. We'll see how all that plays out over the days to come, but if the claim is that the CBC acted unjustly, the union will most properly first be defending and demanding due process for their member, and only then pursuing whatever complaints are made to them, if any. By his unilateral decison to take the matter to civil court Ghomeshi may have precluded the union from being more than a supporting player, but to imagine they'd do other than support him would be as jejeune as expecting defence lawyers to 'rat out' their clients.
I may be mistaken but I believe in Canada if you are part of a Union and want protection from them in the form of the Union taking up your cause you cannot file a lawsuit separately like what he has done with the 50 million dollar lawsuit. In order for him to file the lawsuit he cannot use the Union. It's one road or the other but not both.
 

sleazure

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It's just a lot of he-said/she-said, and all of his accusers are remaining anonymous. IMO, anonymous accusations don't carry much weight.
At least, we can all stop wondering whether the rich old rock'n'roll bachelor is gay. Straight, it seems, but bent.
As I understand it, until he got fired, The Star didn't think it had enough corroboration to publish.
Not trying to start any rumours, but reading between the lines of his facebook/twitter announcement, he seemed to be hinting that he might have shown the CBC brass some video to back up his side of the story. If it ever goes to trial, I guess we will find out.
 

james t kirk

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The 50 million lawsuit is just a number. No-one seriously thinks he's going to get a million.

If he wins, it would be a negotiation down to a fraction of 50 million. (Can't speculate how much it would be.)

If he started out at a million, he would get a fraction of a million. Better to get a faction of 50 million than a faction of 1 million.
 

GameBoy27

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And all along I thought Jian Ghomeshi was a pasta dish. ;)

Anyway, if CBC feels he's tarnished their brand, their likely within their right to fire him. We have no idea what's in his contract but their lawyers do.

He just filed suit for $55 million. Finally, CBC gets a drama worthy of HBO. lol
 

james t kirk

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Unless these women want to charge him and see it through and expose themselves to the scrutiny of a public trial, there is no evidence against him, which makes him not guilty, which means that the CBC will be on the hook.

It's going to come down to charging him and the women cannot remain anonymous for that to happen.

One thing is for sure though, his reputation, at least in the short to medium term, is in cinders.
 

mandrill

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Unless these women want to charge him and see it through and expose themselves to the scrutiny of a public trial, there is no evidence against him, which makes him not guilty, which means that the CBC will be on the hook.

It's going to come down to charging him and the women cannot remain anonymous for that to happen.

One thing is for sure though, his reputation, at least in the short to medium term, is in cinders.
You don't have to criminally charge someone to give evidence against them in someone else's civil trial. And it's reasonable enough that they don't want to charge him. Most women who are beaten and humiliated simply want the guy safely out of their lives and want to move on as quickly as possible.

And his contract is probably worded in a way that allows CBC to ditch him if they have "reasonable and probable grounds" to believe that he committed unbecoming acts and sullied their brand. 3 complainants with similar stories who are not looking to cash in is pretty reasonable grounds.
 

mandrill

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The 50 million lawsuit is just a number. No-one seriously thinks he's going to get a million.

If he wins, it would be a negotiation down to a fraction of 50 million. (Can't speculate how much it would be.)

If he started out at a million, he would get a fraction of a million. Better to get a faction of 50 million than a faction of 1 million.
Holy shit! Do you honestly actually believe that it's that random??!!

There are case reports on the appropriate tariff range for damages for various types of claims in varying circumstances. It's not like the judge puts on a blindfold and throws darts at a painting of a donkey's butt.
 

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But I also think he's fashionable enough for another syndicated station to pick him up sooner or later
You kidding? not only is he utterly toxic right now, but it's not like there are hundreds of stations that go for his style of programming format that are lined up looking for a host. Or even one, other than the Ceeb.
 

Moviefan-2

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And I am DAMN SURE that his fat contract is loaded with terms and clauses that let CBC ditch him if he embarrasses them.
Presumably, the contract would have covered a range of possibilities, including a change in direction for CBC's programming.

Even if the CBC's reasons were totally lame, I suspect it may not mean much if he was already offered a good severance. He can't really claim anything in the public embarrassment department, since it was his choice to announce that he was fired and to get into the private sex-life details.

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An update: Howard Levitt has a column in the National Post that says Ghomeshi, as a unionized employee, can't sue for wrongful dismissal.

http://business.financialpost.com/2...it-is-hopeless-even-if-hes-telling-the-truth/
 

GPIDEAL

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The 50 million lawsuit is just a number. No-one seriously thinks he's going to get a million.

If he wins, it would be a negotiation down to a fraction of 50 million. (Can't speculate how much it would be.)

If he started out at a million, he would get a fraction of a million. Better to get a faction of 50 million than a faction of 1 million.
Correct, but the quantum of the claim certainly makes his look vexatious (and not credible).
 

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You kidding? not only is he utterly toxic right now, but it's not like there are hundreds of stations that go for his style of programming format that are lined up looking for a host. Or even one, other than the Ceeb.
He lost the gig of his life.
He'll land on his feet somewhere, albeit 'off broadway'.
 

basketcase

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Who knows what the story is.

But young people under the age of 25 will definitely "jump on the band wagon" quite easily.

One thing is for sure, this going to get interesting.
On the other side, a guy who gets off on violent sex will likely have had more than a few partners who weren't fully prepared for what to expect.


And if he was playing with women at work...
 

frankcastle

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He lawyered up, got a pr team, was canned by a team of lawyers, there are 4th allegations of wrongdoing.

Doesn't look good but i will reserve judgement for when we get more information.

Sure the women don't want to come forward and one recanted but that could be not wanting the shame and hate mail etc.
 

frankcastle

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I think it is hilarious that his fans are willing to believe him and dismiss the allegations as a jilted lover.

That will teach those uppity women their place. Sarcasm.
 

SkyRider

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He lawyered up, got a pr team, was canned by a team of lawyers, there are 4th allegations of wrongdoing.

Doesn't look good but i will reserve judgement for when we get more information.

Sure the women don't want to come forward and one recanted but that could be not wanting the shame and hate mail etc.
If false, can he sue the women for false allegations? Some women also cry "rape" after the deed.
 

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Over 100 million copies of 50 shades of Grey have been sold. A story of the physical and mental domination by a man in a position of power who uses that power to humiliate and degrade a poor hapless 20 something.They are releasing the movie on Valentines day next year.A day of lovers.Protests by various women's groups are linked below




Yup, literally the only protests I could find was outrage over Charlie Hunnam being replaced......and now.

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Moviefan-2

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If false, can he sue the women for false allegations? Some women also cry "rape" after the deed.
The women weren't named in the Star story, so I don't know how he could sue them since he can't confirm who said what.

He could sue the Star.
 
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