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NDTV are one of India's best media outlets, they have high journalistic standards. Uf they say Hamas fired rockets from next to their hotel that is what happened. Considering the Washington Post says the same thing there is no doubt about it.

You are the conspicuous fraud, refusing to believe the widely and multiply reported news.

You also still owe us an answer as to whether you think Hamas have a right to fire rockets at civilians.
I don't owe you an answer for something I didn't say and don't try to distract with random questions about rockets fired.
YOU...are VERY conspicuous by the smoke screens you continually put up.
Can you prove 'objectively' that NDTV has high journalistic standards.
How do you know this, because they make up reports that support an Israeli narrative?
I'm curious to know how you know so much about NDTV.
 

fuji

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Because I looked up New Delhi Television after you posted your ludicrous criticism and discovered it is one of India's top (and first) 24/7 news channels, many of its journalists are household names in India, and it has won many awards for top quality journalism. Add the corroborating reports from numerous other top news media like the Washington Post and the CBC and you look like a fool trying to beat back the tide with a stick.

NDTV is widely watched that it is carried by US Cable networks for Hindi speaking Americans.

And yes you are an absolute coward for refusing to answer whether you think Hamas has a right to fire missiles at civilians. For anyone with any morals at all it is an easy question to answer but you run from it.
 

basketcase

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Fail is right when you ignore the next sentences.

Samer, who knows Gaza very well, thinks militants would have launched it from somewhere in northern Gaza City. This is clearly a residential area. The hotel our crew stayed at during our last few Gaza assignments is in the same neighbourhood, and I've witnessed several rocket launches.

And the rest.

Gaza City’s Greek Orthodox church compound, a site that sheltered hundreds of Palestinians who fled their homes during IDF shelling in the area, was used by members of Hamas to launch rockets at Israeli territory, a prominent Christian leader in the Strip said Wednesday.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/gaza-archbishop-says-rockets-fired-from-church/

On Twitter, Barbati, Jerusalem Correspondent for Radio Popolare Milano, and a former reporter for Sky Italia, in Beijing, said, “Out of #Gaza far from #Hamas retaliation: misfired rocket killed children yday [yesterday] in Shati. Witness: militants rushed and cleared debris.”

He said, “@IDFSpokesperson said truth in communique released yesterday about Shati camp massacre. It was not #Israel behind it.”

http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/07/3...ion-misfired-rocket-killed-children-in-shati/

Shortly before a cease-fire went into effect in Gaza on Tuesday morning, a crew from India’s NDTV captured rare footage of Islamist militants quietly preparing to fire a rocket at Israel from a densely populated area of the Palestinian territory.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/06/w...re-video-of-rocket-launch-from-gaza.html?_r=1


Aishi Zidan said a rocket was fired at Israel at 2:00 a.m., “right in the back parking lot of the Shifa Hospital in Gaza."

http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Prot...de-into-Israel-says-foreign-journalist-369804

FRANCE 24 has exclusive footage of a Hamas rocket-launching pad that appears to show that the Islamist militant group has been firing from areas heavily populated with civilians.
http://www.france24.com/en/20140805...et-launching-pad-near-gaza-homes-un-building/

Keep on pretending the truth doesn't exist ostrich man.
I notice that groggy has decided that playing ostrich is the only response.
 

gryfin

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When multiple news organizations around the world and prominent figures in Gaza all say the same thing...
You mean six or so questionable reports out of three thousand rockets.? What is that....about .01% of all rockets fired? That means 99% fired away from anything civilian.

Nice doing business with you. You are much better at oral servitude to Zionism than you are at reasoning.
 

fuji

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Actually the Washington Post reporter wrote that rockets were frequently fired from near his hotel. That is just one hotel. The CBC reported that rockets were often seen firing from residential neighborhoods. These are reports of common practices.

From those data points we can surmise that quite a lot of those rockets were fired from civilian areas.

You just lose this point. The facts totally contradict your jibbering ninnyisms.
 

groggy

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Actually the Washington Post reporter wrote that rockets were frequently fired from near his hotel.
Near as in 1km?
2 km?

Give us specifics, show us the maps that prove that there were no legit places within a 2km radius from which to fire a rocket.
Show us on a map the locations in Gaza that are all 2km away from all civilian targets.


Until you do, you are jibber jabbering.
 

fuji

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Write to the newspapers and ask for details. In the meantime you sound like Rob Ford trying to deny the news. Every one of the sources cited is a credible mainstream news agency and they all day the same thing: Hamas fires rockets from in and around crowded civilian buildings.
 

groggy

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Write to the newspapers and ask for details. .
This is your claim that they were too near civilian infrastructure.
I'm asking you to clarify your statement.

How much is too close?
1km?
100m
10km?

If you're going to claim that rocket fire is too close to civilian infrastructure, you need to tell us what distance you think is safe.
 

gryfin

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It isn't my statement, groggy. It is the Washington Post, CBC, NDTV, etc.
Are you saying you have no idea what distance is too close or what an acceptable distance is? If you don't, that certainly changes the value of your contributions here.
 

fuji

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Firing a rocket from the parking lot of a hospital seems "too close" to me, and the videos by NDTV certainly show it being too close.

You simply lose.
 

basketcase

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It isn't my statement, groggy. It is the Washington Post, CBC, NDTV, etc.
Maybe grog should follow his own advice and take it up with all those news agencies.

BTW, here are a dozen launches caught by surveillance from civilian areas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IUrDAEgisXM
And another 4 or 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETm2o0RUB5g

Of course grog will say that the Israelis built an imitation Gaza and launched their own rockets just to record them and frame Hamas.

And a bunch more details on specific launches
http://www.idfblog.com/blog/2014/08/04/hamas-fires-rockets-everywhere-gaza/
 

gryfin

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Maybe grog should follow his own advice and take it up with all those news agencies.

BTW, here are a dozen launches caught by surveillance from civilian areas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IUrDAEgisXM

Of course grog will say that the Israelis built an imitation Gaza and launched their own rockets just to record them and frame Hamas.

And a bunch more details on specific launches
http://www.idfblog.com/blog/2014/08/04/hamas-fires-rockets-everywhere-gaza/
Yikes. Retreading IDF propaganda. That's creepy. Does your oral servitude know no bounds?
 

fuji

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In this case IDF has been completely corroborated by numerous reporters so that information checks out.
 

basketcase

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Yikes. Retreading IDF propaganda. That's creepy. Does your oral servitude know no bounds?
I apologize. It should read "Of course gryf will say that the Israelis built an imitation Gaza and launched their own rockets just to record them and frame Hamas."
 

gryfin

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I apologize. It should read "Of course gryf will say that the Israelis built an imitation Gaza and launched their own rockets just to record them and frame Hamas."
That's funny. You are dating yourself. One day someone will show you an editing suite. But you go on thinking they would have to build a fake Gaza.
 

groggy

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Firing a rocket from the parking lot of a hospital seems "too close" to me, and the videos by NDTV certainly show it being too close.

You simply lose.
The only reporter who said anything like that said it was behind the hospital, not in the parking lot.
How near was it exactly?
How far away is safe?

You're claims are ridiculous if you can't make them clear.
 
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