Global Warming. Fact or grossly exaggerated??

[fuji]

Fuji, you're not funny but I'll humour you. The correct answer is no one as the TPS doesn't have a Sheriff

Ontario has a sheriff, but I don't know that they have a forced entry team.

Sheriff's Office
P.O. Box 666, Station A
Oshawa, Ontario
L1H 9Z9

They handle court services, jury duty, evictions, etc.

 

[GPIDEAL]

Ontario has a sheriff, but I don't know that they have a forced entry team.

Sheriff's Office
P.O. Box 666, Station A
Oshawa, Ontario
L1H 9Z9

They handle court services, jury duty, evictions, etc.

I already know that (pay attention Fuji, I said the 'TPS' doesn't have a Sheriff).

 

[Moviefan-2]

We are sensitive, just like the atmosphere MF.

Now, that was a good response. That's the best line I've heard all day.

 

[fuji]

I already know that (pay attention Fuji, I said the 'TPS' doesn't have a Sheriff).

TPS probably also know to load their pistols.

 

[groggy]

Now, that was a good response. That's the best line I've heard all day.

I'd just like to point out that your failure to spot the difference in your oil funded copy of the graph you supplied and the original IPCC original shows exactly why you fall for their snake oil. You have shown how easy you are to trick.

It's just too bad you seem incapable of understanding this.

 

[basketcase]

Prior to the IPCC's decision in its 2001 report to go all-in on the fake Nobel laureate's hockey stick, that wasn't the thinking.

Gosh golly gee. You mean when scientists learn more theories change? Who would have know?

(Actually you wouldn't because you have successfully ignored all sorts of scientific information in this thread)

I'm still waiting for you to explain your theory that the Industrial Revolution began 4.5 billion years ago.

So your response to the scientific method is avoidance. Interesting.

 

[basketcase]

Hey Groggy and Basketcase,

I'm arguing with some Republicans elsewhere. They feel that since CO2 has such a minuscule relative composition in the earth's atmosphere or within water vapor, that it's effect on AGW is negligible. I looked up something on Wikipedia that explains that there was a rise in CO2 in terms of PPM by 40% since 2000 I think, and that CO2 has the greatest impact on UV radiation and the GHE.

Does their argument hold water (no pun intended)?

Are you asking if CO2's impact is negligible because it is a small component of the atmosphere? That argument is like saying a small dosage of cyanide has a negligible impact because it makes up such a small percentage of body mass.

Greenhouse gasses are such because they absorb certain frequencies of radiation (based on how the structure of their molecular bonds compares to the wavelength) and releases that excess energy in the form of infrared - aka heat. CO2 is a particular concern because it absorbs energy in the infrared spectrum and the emits it in the IR spectrum creating a cycle as well as absorbing IR emitted by other greenhouse gasses.

 

[blackrock13]

Any reference to that supposed claim was only to joke about your preferred selection of a firearm in an imaginary duel with AK over this GW issue. I wasn't suggesting that you really are in the force. I don't know and I don't care.

(Overall, I like the police btw).

Fair enough.

 

[groggy]

Hey Groggy and Basketcase,

I'm arguing with some Republicans elsewhere. They feel that since CO2 has such a minuscule relative composition in the earth's atmosphere or within water vapor, that it's effect on AGW is negligible. I looked up something on Wikipedia that explains that there was a rise in CO2 in terms of PPM by 40% since 2000 I think, and that CO2 has the greatest impact on UV radiation and the GHE.

Does their argument hold water (no pun intended)?

Think of it this way.
Give your pal 4 drinks and his blood alcohol level might be around 800 PPM and he'll be arrested for drunk driving.
The CO2 level we're talking about is 400 PPM, its enough to make the planet tipsy and get too much of a warm feeling.

Trace amounts do make a big difference.
Take an aspirin and that's only about 3PPM of your body, but it makes you feel better, take about 40 and your up to 120 PPM and you're probably dead.



Hey Moviefan!

I noticed that you've still failed to spot the difference in your heartland institute supplied version and the IPCC legit version.
Its pretty basic, someone with even high school science should be able to spot it.
No wonder you fall for their crap so easily.

Thanks for showing how easy a sucker you are.

 

[AK-47]

Climatology is extremely complicated, you need a PhD in it to even begin to understand it.

Do you have a PhD in climatology, groggy?? Answer the question, yes/no??

This is an admission that you don't understand climatology.

It's a point we've been returning to repeatedly, you don't understand yet feel qualified to judge the science.

I can explain to you the basics, but if you aren't smart enough to understand even that then you will just buy some snake oil from some charlatan lobbyist because that's what you want to believe.

And did you also get your computer virus fixed by someone who called you up and told you it was infected? How many pyramid schemes have you invested in?

You are a rube

Did you just skim over my post again, dummy?? I asked you a clear question, do you or do you not have a PhD or other advanced degree in climatology??!

Simple question, yes or no??

 

[FAST]

Did you just skim over my post again, dummy?? I asked you a clear question, do you or do you not have a PhD or other advanced degree in climatology??!

Simple question, yes or no??

NOT gona happen,...

FAST

 

[blackrock13]

Did you just skim over my post again, dummy?? I asked you a clear question, do you or do you not have a PhD or other advanced degree in climatology??!

Simple question, yes or no??

Not quite sure why this is so important to you, as it been clearly shown you don't have to have a PHD to know something or alot about how GW works. You've been asked a lot of direct simple questions, but make a habit not answering many offered in your direction, usually reverting to your class clown act.

 

[groggy]

Did you just skim over my post again, dummy?? I asked you a clear question, do you or do you not have a PhD or other advanced degree in climatology??!

Simple question, yes or no??

First, you don't seem to apply those standards to the hacks you quote. If you really want to demand this from me, will you be willing to say that you will also demand this level of expertise from your sources?

I see movie fan has run away since he's been shown as easy to fool.

 

[AK-47]

Right thats what I thought, groggy still won't answer the question.
I'll take that as a no then, he does not have any advanced degree in climatology.

That means that he's just willing to take IPCC's word for it that climate is warming, even though he's clueless as to exactly how all the science and data collection works.

Groggy, if NSA who employes thousands of people can keep it a secret they've been spying on everyone for 20 years until one man named Snowden ratted them out, then how come you can't accept IPCC might possibly cooking the books as well??! And remember, these people make a very comfortable living by keeping the multi-billion dollar global warming train going

 

[blackrock13]

Right thats what I thought, groggy still won't answer the question.
I'll take that as a no then, he does not have any advanced degree in climatology.

That means that he's just willing to take IPCC's word for it that climate is warming, even though he's clueless as to exactly how all the science and data collection works.

Groggy, if NSA who employes thousands of people can keep it a secret they've been spying on everyone for 20 years until one man named Snowden ratted them out, then how come you can't accept IPCC might possibly cooking the books as well??! And remember, these people make a very comfortable living by keeping the multi-billion dollar global warming train going

Then again you've been shown how irrelevant you question is, so no real need to answer it, except to satisfy your grade school understanding of GW. Yes, it is possible, but certainly much less probable, nor plausible. Two adult concepts you can't seem to accept.

 

[AK-47]

Then again you've been shown how irrelevant you question is, so no real need to answer it, except to satisfy your grade school understanding of GW. Yes, it is possible, but certainly much less probable, nor plausible. Two adult concepts you can't seem to accept

And you dumb-as-a-rock, do you have an advanced degree in climatology??

 

[groggy]

And you dumb-as-a-rock, do you have an advanced degree in climatology??

AK, you don't need a degree in climatology to understand the science or the reports, as I can attest to and show you personally. But you are very dishonest to claim I need a degree that you don't require from your oil funded lobbyists.

What you and moviefan show is a lack of even high school level science, as shown by your repeated failure to spot an easy and basic difference between an original IPCC graph and one that was changed by lobbyists to make a false claim. You both are unable to either understand the legit science or to judge the crap you bring to this argument.

You both aren't smart enough.

 

[blackrock13]

And you dumb-as-a-rock, do you have an advanced degree in climatology??

I've already mentioned more than once as much of my qualifications as needed for this debate. If you don't pay attention, that's your problem. As shown before, you don't need a PHD to be a world renown authority or work in the field, which was your initial claim. The are more field and lab techs working with research scientists and as a group they do just fine together, each with his own skill set and expertise.

 

[GPIDEAL]

Fair enough.

I didn't mean to put you down or offend you. Ok, so you're not in the force. Let's say you're a mean, bad-ass, mofo!

 

[GPIDEAL]

Are you asking if CO2's impact is negligible because it is a small component of the atmosphere? That argument is like saying a small dosage of cyanide has a negligible impact because it makes up such a small percentage of body mass.

Greenhouse gasses are such because they absorb certain frequencies of radiation (based on how the structure of their molecular bonds compares to the wavelength) and releases that excess energy in the form of infrared - aka heat. CO2 is a particular concern because it absorbs energy in the infrared spectrum and the emits it in the IR spectrum creating a cycle as well as absorbing IR emitted by other greenhouse gasses.

I told them the same thing (I took a guess and told them, 'Hey, would you ingest a micro percentage of plutonium or cyanide') except the part about IR radiation, although a friend gave me a link explaining the GH effect and how CO2 entraps heat.

Thanks.