Ron Paul: Crimea secedes. So what?

danmand

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Ron Paul: Crimea secedes. So what?

Ron Paul 8:09 p.m. EDT March 17, 2014

Residents of Crimea voted over the weekend on whether they would remain an autonomous region of Ukraine or join the Russian Federation. In so doing, they joined a number of countries and regions — including recently Scotland, Catalonia and Venice — that are seeking to secede from what they view as unresponsive or oppressive governments.

These latter three are proceeding without much notice, while the overwhelming Crimea vote to secede from Ukraine has incensed U.S. and European Union officials, and has led NATO closer to conflict with Russia than since the height of the Cold War.

What's the big deal? Opponents of the Crimea vote like to point to the illegality of the referendum. But self-determination is a centerpiece of international law. Article I of the United Nations Charter points out clearly that the purpose of the U.N. is to "develop friendly relations among nations based on respect for the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples."

Why does the U.S. care which flag will be hoisted on a small piece of land thousands of miles away?

Critics point to the Russian "occupation" of Crimea as evidence that no fair vote could have taken place. Where were these people when an election held in an Iraq occupied by U.S. troops was called a "triumph of democracy"?

Perhaps the U.S. officials who supported the unconstitutional overthrow of Ukraine's government should refocus their energies on learning our own Constitution, which does not allow the U.S. government to overthrow governments overseas or send a billion dollars to bail out Ukraine and its international creditors.

Though the Obama administration has applied some minimal sanctions on selected Russian and Crimean individuals, neither the U.S. nor the EU can afford significant sanctions against Russia. Global trade provides too much economic benefit to both sides.

Indeed, international markets rallied on news that the sanctions would be thus far minimal. They understand that trade and economic engagement are the surest roads to peace and prosperity. Let's hope governments will follow their lead.
 

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Ron Paul just has it wrong on foreign policy. You let Crimea go to the Russians what is next - regions of Lithuania or Estonia with majority Russian populations? At some point you have to respect boundaries and international law. The Russians clearly do not care.
 

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Ron Paul just has it wrong on foreign policy. You let Crimea go to the Russians what is next - regions of Lithuania or Estonia with majority Russian populations? At some point you have to respect boundaries and international law. The Russians clearly do not care.
Ron and rand Paul believe the us should mind it's own business and be isolationist
 

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Ron Paul just has it wrong on foreign policy. You let Crimea go to the Russians what is next - regions of Lithuania or Estonia with majority Russian populations? At some point you have to respect boundaries and international law. The Russians clearly do not care.
Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia are all NATO members and all the rest of us in NATO have an article five obligation to defend them if they are attacked. The Russians may not be enthusiastic about that, but they know it.
 

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Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia are all NATO members and all the rest of us in NATO have an article five obligation to defend them if they are attacked. The Russians may be enthusiastic about that, but they know it.
I didn't realize they were NATO members. That definitely helps the situation but there's nothing to stop Russia from creating unrest in those jurisdictions.
 

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I didn't realize they were NATO members. That definitely helps the situation but there's nothing to stop Russia from creating unrest in those jurisdictions.
I'm sure Putin has been doing just that for a decade.
 

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