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Global Warming. Fact or grossly exaggerated??

Whats your opinion on global warming?

  • Its too late! We're all gonne bake, frie and die in a few years

    Votes: 44 30.1%
  • Its not as bad as scientists say. We got at least 100 to 200 years before shit hits the fan

    Votes: 33 22.6%
  • Its not real at all. Its a carbon credit money making scam

    Votes: 45 30.8%
  • Its all a big conspiracy MAN!!!

    Votes: 9 6.2%
  • Its way too cold in Canada, I wish it were real. Start up the SUV's

    Votes: 15 10.3%

  • Total voters
    146
  • Poll closed .

groggy

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Not necessarily a conspiracy. Many of these scientists rely on government grants, all I'm saying is I have a hard time trusting a lot of these guys since Climategate happened
I see so you think that governments will only give grants to those who support the IPCC. So now, not only are 97% of climatologists in on the conspiracy but now governments in over 100 countries are on on the fix.

You really are making a compelling case here.

A case that shows you to a paranoid idiot.

Nice work.
 

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Yes, that's right, that my dimwitted friend, that is called an index.
My apologies, Groggy. I didn't realize you don't know what the word "cite" means. Nor do you appear to know the difference between a Table of Contents and an Index (I'll give you a hint: The index appears at the back of the book, and is usually listed in alphabetical order.)

Here is what I actually cited: Page 202 of Chapter 7 in the IPCC's first assessment report.

Since you apparently can't understand how to use a Table of Contents, here is the more specific link: http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/far/wg_I/ipcc_far_wg_I_chapter_07.pdf
 

groggy

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Here is what I actually cited: Page 202 of Chapter 7 in the IPCC's first assessment report.

Since you apparently can't understand how to use a Table of Contents, here is the more specific link: http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/far/wg_I/ipcc_far_wg_I_chapter_07.pdf
You really have to work on this citing business, you know.
If you want to cite something, you have to be specific and you have to have a reason.
You linked to a chapter this time, its a bit closer, but its still a fail.
And if you're going to claim that you cited something, you need to quote it and give us the reference and the reason why you've quoted it.

Did you actually read page 202?
What on that page are you citing?
Why are you citing it?

Did you graduate from high school, by the way?
You might consider going back to get some of these basics together.


Right now it looks like you've failed in every argument.
The last decade was the warmest on record for thousands of years.
There was no pause.
 

AK-47

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I see so you think that governments will only give grants to those who support the IPCC. So now, not only are 97% of climatologists in on the conspiracy but now governments in over 100 countries are on on the fix.

You really are making a compelling case here.

A case that shows you to a paranoid idiot.

Nice work.
Listen up here, dumbass. We have government corruption everywhere, we have NSA spying on their own politicians, we have NSA spying on ordinary citizens, we have IRS going after TEA party members when they're not supposed to engage in political witch-hunts. All this has been confirmed by Snowden as well as other people. And last but not least, we have Climategate

You really think IPCC is above corruption, especially when there's billions of dollars worth in grants and other money involved??!! How stupid and naive can you get??!!

I'm not saying I have any evidence IPCC is corrupt, but I simply dont trust them anymore and it wouldnt surprise me if they were. After all the IPCC could just claim they made a mistake in their data collection, and nobody would go to jail because its not against the law to make mistakes
 

blackrock13

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Listen up here, dumbass. We have government corruption everywhere, we have NSA spying on their own politicians, we have NSA spying on ordinary citizens, we have IRS going after TEA party members when they're not supposed to engage in political witch-hunts. All this has been confirmed by Snowden as well as other people. And last but not least, we have Climategate

You really think IPCC is above corruption, especially when there's billions of dollars worth in grants and other money involved??!! How stupid and naive can you get??!!

I'm not saying I have any evidence IPCC is corrupt, but I simply dont trust them anymore and it wouldnt surprise me if they were. After all the IPCC could just claim they made a mistake in their data collection, and nobody would go to jail because its not against the law to make mistakes
So because of this, we throw out 'everything' published on GW, because the government is rotten, corrupt, wrong, ineffective? Then you bail out big time by saying you have no evidence.

Back to your 'LOL' posts, they're more your level of thinking, like that of William Sommers or Jeffrey hudson.
 

groggy

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Listen up here, dumbass. We have government corruption everywhere, we have NSA spying on their own politicians, we have NSA spying on ordinary citizens, we have IRS going after TEA party members when they're not supposed to engage in political witch-hunts. All this has been confirmed by Snowden as well as other people. And last but not least, we have Climategate

You really think IPCC is above corruption, especially when there's billions of dollars worth in grants and other money involved??!! How stupid and naive can you get??!!

I'm not saying I have any evidence IPCC is corrupt, but I simply dont trust them anymore and it wouldnt surprise me if they were. After all the IPCC could just claim they made a mistake in their data collection, and nobody would go to jail because its not against the law to make mistakes
The IPCC represents thousands of scientists from over a hundred countries who have worked and written thousands of individual papers. The chances that they are all corrupt towards the same goal and that governments are trying to support this conspiracy goal by funding only those who support the IPCC's findings is so ridiculous as a conspiracy theory that it makes all other conspiracy theories look plausible.

Take Canada and Harper as an example. Harper is so anti-IPCC that he's won the fossil of the day and fossil of the year award. He's tried to muzzle scientists by not allowing them to speak publicly and has used PMO resources to attack environmental groups. If scientists were really working towards some corrupt goal, why wouldn't they change all their results so that Harper would like them and give them more money?

They are mostly a bunch of geeks who just are really interested in investigating the situation. Each one stakes their career every time they publish a paper. Publish one that's faked, or has bad data, or can't be reproduced by others and their goes your credibility. Suggesting that all of them are somehow corrupt for some unnamed and unknown goal (you really think this is a get rich through carbon credit scheme?) just strains all credibility. Bad research gets outed, more so with the enormous amounts of money ($1billion) that the fossil fuel industry is spending to look for errors.

Your feelings are just your personal biases.
You refuse to accept the truth.
 

AK-47

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Groggy, you're a gullible fool
 

AK-47

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I'm not the one who gets their information from $billion dollar grant, government funded organizations, and think its objective
 

groggy

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I'm not the one who gets their information from $billion dollar grant, government funded organizations, and think its objective
No, you're the one who thinks that among the tens of thousands of climatologists, 97% are corrupt and that they are working in collusion with over 100 governments in a conspiracy so vague you can't even name their motive. And you're the person who thinks oil funded hackers, creationists and lobbyists are the only ones who can see the truth.
 

blackrock13

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I'm not the one who gets their information from $billion dollar grant, government funded organizations, and think its objective
Unless you have sources for all the 1000's of research projects doing GW, you're have no freakin' idea what you're talking about, not new, and are just farting smoke out your ass. You clearly have never participated in lab or field research or ade a presentation for research, so are just flapping you cake hole. Much research done by NASA is funded by private sources, not automatically the government, but then you've shown you don't need evidence to make allegations. In general about 70% of all research is funded privately.

Look up the way agencies like National Council of UniversityResearch Administrators in the US, Engineering and Physical Sciences Research Council in the UK, and the Council of Canadian Acdemies, to see how little you know about how and why. I doubt you will though, you're too lazy. There is government input, but it's not as prevalent as you would want others to believe. Harper is trying to change that with B-38, but it won't succeed for long, if at all.
 

AK-47

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The fact global warming crowd has officer dumbrock in their corner should pretty much sum it all up for you
 

groggy

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The fact global warming crowd has officer dumbrock in their corner should pretty much sum it all up for you
I'll take it that this means you are out of arguments and despite having lost every point will now sit in the corner, sulk and call people names.
A real man would admit he is wrong.
 

blackrock13

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The fact global warming crowd has officer dumbrock in their corner should pretty much sum it all up for you
Only to idiots.

Clearly you're running out of creditable point, after nearly a 1000 posts, so have reverted to this. Knew you would look up the research councils.
 

AK-47

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Only to idiots.

Clearly you're running out of creditable point, after nearly a 1000 posts, so have reverted to this. Knew you would look up the research councils
LoL

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AK-47

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I'll take it that this means you are out of arguments and despite having lost every point will now sit in the corner, sulk and call people names
You might wanna go through entire thread and see who started the name-calling.

HINT: handle starts with a "g"

A real man would admit he is wrong
You mean how you admitted it when you fell for my ruse??
 

groggy

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You might wanna go through entire thread and see who started the name-calling.

HINT: handle starts with a "g"


You mean how you admitted it when you fell for my ruse??
I admitted I skimmed your post.
And that it won't happen again.

Will you now admit that you are wrong about climate change?
 

AK-47

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I admitted I skimmed your post.
And that it won't happen again
Thats not the only thing you skimmed. You skimmed the entire IPCC website.

Your reasoning is "1,000 scientists can't be wrong". Even though you don't understand a lick of the science yourself
 

groggy

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Thats not the only thing you skimmed. You skimmed the entire IPCC website.

You're reasoning is "1,000 scientists can't be wrong". Even though you dont understand a lick of the science yourself
My reasoning is thousands of scientists working for decades aren't likely to be wrong at all.
I do understand the science, go ahead and challenge me, and I'll challenge you.
Show us how smart you really are.
 
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