Bibi puts poison pill in negotiations.... no deal possible now.

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First one listed there is the Law of Return which applies to non citizens wishing to become citizens. Foreigners do not have a right to Israeli citizenship, and many nations are culturally selective in who cab apply for citizenship.

In any case, this law does not apply to Israeli Arab citizens who enjoy the same rights as other citizens and are obviously not applying for citizenship they already have.

Strike one.
 

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I find it laughable that Qatar's Al Jazeera criticizing a democracy.

Israel is a functioning democracy that allows full rights and opportunity to all citizens. Yes they effectively have an official religion but the rights and freedoms of all are protected. Of course the Palestinian constitution says Islam is their official religion and Sharia is the basis for their laws but I don't see you complaining about them.
Does Qatar give out automatic citizenship to any a Muslim?
 

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First one listed there is the Law of Return which applies to non citizens wishing to become citizens. Foreigners do not have a right to Israeli citizenship, and many nations are culturally selective in who cab apply for citizenship.

In any case, this law does not apply to Israeli Arab citizens who enjoy the same rights as other citizens and are obviously not applying for citizenship they already have.

Strike one.
Name any country other than Israel that hands out automatic citizenship to any member of one religion? Does it extend that benefit to the members of all the faiths represented by its citizens or does it deny it to every other faith but one?
 

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Does Qatar give out automatic citizenship to any a Muslim?
If you have enough money. There are a number of former Palestinians with citizenship in UAE or Suadi Arabia. For example, Rashid Khalidi's dad was given Saudi citizenship after he left the Palestine Mandate in the early 1940's.

Of course that has nothing to do with lovey's claim.

How does Canada allowing immigrants interfere with my rights or the rights of any other Canadian?
 

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If you have enough money. There are a number of former Palestinians with citizenship in UAE or Suadi Arabia. For example, Rashid Khalidi's dad was given Saudi citizenship after he left the Palestine Mandate in the early 1940's.

Of course that has nothing to do with lovey's claim.

How does Canada allowing immigrants interfere with my rights or the rights of any other Canadian?
You did not answer my question. Does Qatar give out automatic citizenship to any Muslim?
 

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Holy moral conversion Batman.

Hamas, Jihad, PFLP, PRC openly state their goal is to continue attacking Israel until Israel is destroyed.

On the other hand, Netanyahu is in favour of a two state peace.
How can you say he is in favor of any peace when he keeps violating a process Israel agreed to abide by? Just because he says it? You are one GULLIBLE mofo....
 

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Name any country other than Israel that hands out automatic citizenship to any member of one religion? Does it extend that benefit to the members of all the faiths represented by its citizens or does it deny it to every other faith but one?
Who cares? It is irrelevant to the full rights and equality extended to Arab Israeli citizens.
 

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How can you say he is in favor of any peace when he keeps violating a process Israel agreed to abide by? Just because he says it? You are one GULLIBLE mofo....
Olmert had offered an excellent deal that the a Palestinians could simply say yes to. We know exactly what was offered, and it seems to have been extremely reasonable.

We don't have the same details yet on the current peace process but it is seems Israel is likely making equally compelling offers.
 

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You know the Olmert deal was a joke.
 

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How can you say he is in favor of any peace when he keeps violating a process Israel agreed to abide by? Just because he says it? You are one GULLIBLE mofo....
I don't agree with his version of a two state peace but it is still a two state peace.

I see that the official policies of Hamas and the rest being the destruction of Israel doesn't seem to bother you though.
 

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I could care less if Israel exists or does's not exist in 10 years. Simply not important in the larger scheme of things.
 

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Because the con c lict is an incredible distraction from REAL issues and might cause a war when the Existence of Is real is of no consequence.

Global warming, global hunger, wars WMD the world has real problems. 50 years from now anybody who gave a shit about this will look pretty stupid.
 

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Because the con c lict is an incredible distraction from REAL issues and might cause a war when the Existence of Is real is of no consequence.

Global warming, global hunger, wars WMD the world has real problems. 50 years from now anybody who gave a shit about this will look pretty stupid.
The existence of Israel is of no real consequence to you, as an individual who has been spreading hate lies about Israel for some time now.

You have called for the ethnic cleansing of Jews, you have justified attacks on Jews, you have defended Palestinian terrorism, you have spread lies about laws in the State of Israel, etc., I think we know where you stand already. You're being a little coy -- what you really want is for all the Jews to be pushed into the sea.
 

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The existence of Israel is of no real consequence to you, as an individual who has been spreading hate lies about Israel for some time now.

You have called for the ethnic cleansing of Jews, you have justified attacks on Jews, you have defended Palestinian terrorism, you have spread lies about laws in the State of Israel, etc., I think we know where you stand already. You're being a little coy -- what you really want is for all the Jews to be pushed into the sea.
sheesh.
someone calls for equal rights for all and you get all angry and shrill again.

Well, its about 7 weeks left in this peace process then its full on BDS.
A peaceful protest for the vast majority of the world that you'll squeal is 'terrorism'.

must be sad to be you these days....
 

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sheesh.
someone calls for equal rights for all and you get all angry and shrill again.

Well, its about 7 weeks left in this peace process then its full on BDS.
A peaceful protest for the vast majority of the world that you'll squeal is 'terrorism'.

must be sad to be you these days....
Arab citizens of Israel already have equal rights.

You can yammer on all you like, if the Palestinians turn down another generous peace offer no one will support them. People will see what was offered and what was rejected, unreasonableness by either side will be disparaged, and at least under Olmert the Israeli offer was incredibly reasonable.
 

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Arab citizens of Israel already have equal rights.
Already disproven.

You can yammer on all you like, if the Palestinians turn down another generous peace offer no one will support them. People will see what was offered and what was rejected, unreasonableness by either side will be disparaged, and at least under Olmert the Israeli offer was incredibly reasonable.
The offer to live in a 'jewish state' is an offer to live as a second class citizen.
In real democracies we enshrine equal rights for all in the constitution.
Of course, Israel won't do that, will they?
They are afraid of writing what they really want in a constitution.
 
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