Hezbollah draws Lebanon into Syrian war

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I have produced the NYT article that clearly states the Lebanese authorized PLO attacks on Israel from Lebanon. It's indisputable.
Try being an honest person for once. Give us the link to the text you copied and pasted in post #277.
 

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So, you made it up. You've been caught lying one more time, Rob.
You are, bar none, the stupidest person I have ever encountered online, if that's what you think.

I refuse to provide it to you because it's utterly irrelevant, you are attempting to distract with pedantry from the proven point: Lebanon started the war with Israel. That has been indisputably proven with the NYT link, and all your crying and yammering and carrying on won't change it.
 

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You are, bar none, the stupidest person I have ever encountered online, if that's what you think.

I refuse to provide it to you because it's utterly irrelevant, you are attempting to distract with pedantry from the proven point: Lebanon started the war with Israel. That has been indisputably proven with the NYT link, and all your crying and yammering and carrying on won't change it.
Wheres the link fuji?. Cough it up
 

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I'm just saying that rushing to blame anyone before investigations are complete is dangerous.
Just because someone called in and claimed it was AQ doesn't make it so, nor does Iran's accusations.
Really? The Abdullah Azzam Brigades claim the attack. Hezbollah blames them. The Lebanese army blames them. Yet you support a ridiculous idea that Israel is to blame. You really are a pathetic broken record.
 

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Wheres your lotto max happy dance? Seems like you hit the jackpot on this one.
Unlike you I have repeatedly commented on the turmoil in Lebanon (it has a very interesting history). I've also expressed that I consider neither Assad (and Iran/Hezbollah) nor the rebels (and the Saudis) to be good guys. I think my words were bad guys and a different flavour of bad guys. You on the other hand seem only happy if you can blame things on Israel.

BTW. what are your views on the absolutely massive humanitarian disaster in Syria (or are you unable to be critical of anything other than Israel?


You may refuse to accept it but the major conflict in the Middle East over the past decade has been Shia Iran vs. Sunni Saudi Arabia. Israel is nothing but a scapegoat.
 

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Part of me is stunned that none of the 'Israel is evil' crowd bothered to condemn the suicide bombing.
 

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Unlike you I have repeatedly commented on the turmoil in Lebanon (it has a very interesting history). I've also expressed that I consider neither Assad (and Iran/Hezbollah) nor the rebels (and the Saudis) to be good guys. I think my words were bad guys and a different flavour of bad guys. You on the other hand seem only happy if you can blame things on Israel.

BTW. what are your views on the absolutely massive humanitarian disaster in Syria (or are you unable to be critical of anything other than Israel?


You may refuse to accept it but the major conflict in the Middle East over the past decade has been Shia Iran vs. Sunni Saudi Arabia. Israel is nothing but a scapegoat.
How have you commented on the bombings of iranian civilians.(i dont remembered you crying over it). You have no textbook of standards when it comes to a race you dislike. Please dont bother playing that cat and mouse game we know what type of person you are
 

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How have you commented on the bombings of iranian civilians.(i dont remembered you crying over it). You have no textbook of standards when it comes to a race you dislike. Please dont bother playing that cat and mouse game we know what type of person you are
You might have missed it but I called it out as terrorism. Have you ever called out Hezbollah, Hamas, or any other Arab group as terrorist?

basketcase said:
The Lebanese army recently captured one explosive laden vehicle but it looks like a couple more got away. Seems some terrorists in Lebanon see Iran as a problem.

Iranian cultural office targeted in Lebanon

Suicide blasts in southern suburbs of Lebanese capital, Beirut, kill at least seven, says health minister.

A twin suicide bombing hit the southern suburbs of Beirut during the morning rush hour, killing at least seven people and wounding more than 100 in an attack targeting Iran's cultural centre, the country's health ministry said.

The blasts were caused by two suicide bombers of the Abdullah Azzam Brigades, an al-Qaeda-linked group that claimed responsibility for Wednesday's attacks via Twitter.

"In a little while, God willing, there will be important announcements on the attack of the Iranian cultural centre in Beirut by your brothers in the Abdullah Azzam Brigades, from the Hussein Bin Ali cell," it said.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middle...538467372.html

I wonder whether Iran and Hezbollah justify terrorism when they're the targets.
Now your comment on the disastrous situation in Syria?
 

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You might have missed it but I called it out as terrorism. Have you ever called out Hezbollah, Hamas, or any other Arab group as terrorist?



Now your comment on the disastrous situation in Syria?
Nothing in your post substaniates anything other then calling the matter what it is.
 

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You really have reached a gryfin level of posts.

Yes, this was terrorism and I called it such. Maybe you consider terrorism a good thing but the rest of us don't and by calling it terrorism I am criticizing it.

Of course you would never use the word terrorism to describe attacks on civilians by Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, or any other Arab group so we all know how black your heart is, just like you would never dare criticize any atrocities in Syria unless you think you can shift the blame to Israel.
 

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Wheres the link fuji?. Cough it up
Sure, for you no problem:

http://prrn.mcgill.ca/prrn/papers/sanctuary/app.html

This is a reprint of text that originally ran in the Lebanon Daily Star.

I mentioned that article as an aside, it's a NYT article linked above that I rely on to say the Lebanese started the war with Israel. The NYT wrote categorically that the Accord allowed PLO to attack Israel from Lebanon. The full text from the Daily Star is almost certainly accurate, but isn't clear where they got it (probably leaked by the Lebanese govt) so citing the NYT is more authoritative.

Gryfin is squirming around trying to distract from the facts with bullshit which is why I refused to play his game but I have no problem sharing the link with you.
 

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Sure, for you no problem:

http://prrn.mcgill.ca/prrn/papers/sanctuary/app.html

This is a reprint of text that originally ran in the Lebanon Daily Star.

I mentioned that article as an aside, it's a NYT article linked above that I rely on to say the Lebanese started the war with Israel. The NYT wrote categorically that the Accord allowed PLO to attack Israel from Lebanon. The full text from the Daily Star is almost certainly accurate, but isn't clear where they got it (probably leaked by the Lebanese govt) so citing the NYT is more authoritative.

Gryfin is squirming around trying to distract from the facts with bullshit which is why I refused to play his game but I have no problem sharing the link with you.
Finally you were forced into providing a source for text that you posted. And it's just what I thought. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. It turns out it's not a source. It's just text that cannot be validated in any way. It's worthless.

You're right back where you started. No text. Nothing. The document has never been released.
 

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Unlike you I have repeatedly commented on the turmoil in Lebanon (it has a very interesting history). I've also expressed that I consider neither Assad (and Iran/Hezbollah) nor the rebels (and the Saudis) to be good guys. I think my words were bad guys and a different flavour of bad guys. You on the other hand seem only happy if you can blame things on Israel.

BTW. what are your views on the absolutely massive humanitarian disaster in Syria (or are you unable to be critical of anything other than Israel?


You may refuse to accept it but the major conflict in the Middle East over the past decade has been Shia Iran vs. Sunni Saudi Arabia. Israel is nothing but a scapegoat.
As usual, you've got a contradiction that you don't seem able to resolve. The title of this thread contradicts your claim of regarding all the participants as "bad guys". If you want to be consistent then edit your thread title to reflect that position. Otherwise, you claim is just more hot air.
 

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Finally you were forced into providing a source for text that you posted. And it's just what I thought. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. It turns out it's not a source. It's just text that cannot be validated in any way. It's worthless.

You're right back where you started. No text. Nothing. The document has never been released.
That link wasn't for you, it was for exceed.

Your link is here:

http://www.nytimes.com/1987/05/22/world/lebanese-scrap-plo-accord-barring-bases.html

That NYT article proves Lebanon was complicit in PLO attacks on Israel. That closes the debate on who started the war.
 

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Of course the claim that Hezbollah is not against jews but is merely protecting Lebanon is put to shame by their own words.

From Hezbollah’s al-Manar TV

Hezbollah: Jews invented Hollywood to ‘take over the world’

Jews use skills and superheroes to hijack global culture through mass media, TV report claims, lamenting that ‘we don’t know how to do it’

http://www.timesofisrael.com/hezbollah-jews-invented-hollywood-to-take-over-the-world-as-we-want/


I'm sure exceed will be here soon to tell us it's not racist because it's true.
 
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Not surprising considering Syria occupied much of Lebanon for 30 years.


Syria-Lebanon frontier blurs as battle for key city rages


Hezbollah, Sunni fighters flow into Yabroud, Syria, while rebels make nearby Lebanese town a strategic base


ARSAL, Lebanon (AP) — Sunnis and Shiites from Lebanon are streaming into Syria to take up arms on opposite sides of a fierce battle over a rebel stronghold — a fight that has effectively erased the border between the two countries and underlined how Lebanon is being sucked into the civil war next door.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/syria-lebanon-frontier-blurs-as-battle-for-key-city-rages/





Hezbollah said to have built military airport near Syria


Base in Bekaa Valley reportedly houses at least 14 drones


Hezbollah has constructed a small military airport in the Bekaa Valley for transporting weapons between Syria and Lebanon, according to Lebanese officials.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/hezbollah-said-to-have-built-military-airport-near-syria/
 
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