Korea Military Academy Expels Cadet for Having Sex with Fiancee

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Netizens have attacked the Korea Military Academy after the it expelled a cadet for having sex with his fiancee while on leave. Although the school claimed the cadet violated the code of conduct, after the cadet appealed the decision to the Seoul Superior Court, judges overturned the expulsion, saying that the school had overstepped its authority and could “infringe on basic human rights”.

The elite KMA has been at the center of controversy over cadet sexual behavior before, including accusations of the school covering up sexual assault of a junior female cadet. While Korean soldiers are held to a higher standard of behavior than civilians, online comments still found the Academy’s intrusion on a cadet’s sex life to be unfair.

A Seoul high court delivered a verdict against South Korea’s elite military academy, which expelled a male cadet for his sexual relations with his fiancee while on weekend leave.

In its ruling on the lawsuit that the expelled cadet filed against the Korea Military Academy (KMA), on January 1st, 2014, the Seoul Superior Court upheld a lower court’s ruling that ordered the cancellation of the expulsion.

The high court said in its verdict, “Sexual relations belong to the most intimate part of personal life, and it is hard to view such a relationship as detrimental to sexual discipline in the academy and as pernicious for social morals in general. The expulsion is an abuse of power and exceeds the school’s authority.”

The verdict added, “The code of conduct banning sexual encounters should be interpreted as prohibiting sexual acts breaching moral boundaries. An excessive application of that rule could infringe upon basic human rights.”

Cadet A faced expulsion from the military school for not revealing his sexual relations with his fiancee in November 2012, just one semester before his commission as a first lieutenant.

IN May 2013, A lodged a lawsuit against what he saw as the unfair punishment. He had recently received a notice of military conscription at the rank of private.

[Note: An expelled cadet has to serve mandatory military service at the rank of private like other able-bodied Korean men do. However, expelled cadets can serve a shorter period of military service as their time spent training at the KMA counts for their mandatory 21-month term. The obligatory service is imposed only on men, so if an expelled student is female, she is not required to fulfill a mandatory military service requirement.]

Previously, a lower court instructed the military school to reverse its expulsion in favor of planitiff A.

The military school said after the latest verdict, “We see A’s conduct as a violation of the obligation to maintain decent behavior, thus making the expulsion legitimate. We will seek an appeal against the high court’s ruling.”


http://www.koreabang.com/2014/stori...expels-cadet-for-having-sex-with-fiancee.html


http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/01/02/oukoe-uk-korea-military-sex-idUKBREA0104T20140102
The Academy maintains rules against sexual relations as part of its code of conduct that also bans drinking, smoking and marriage and it intends to take the case to the Supreme Court, a spokesman for the Army told a news briefing.
 

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Your point is what: The KMA has a code of conduct. The Cadet cadet knowingly violated the KMA's code of conduct. The ROK has a system of Judicial Review and Civilian control of the Military. All three?
 

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Your point is what: The KMA has a code of conduct. The Cadet cadet knowingly violated the KMA's code of conduct. The ROK has a system of Judicial Review and Civilian control of the Military. All three?
telling people not have sex is sexual harassment. why is Korean tax dollars paying for this?
 

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Are you positive that the RMC doesn't have such a rule? It may be worded more narrowly but I bet you the intent is much the same, particularly when you take into account cultural differences between here and Korea.
 

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Your point is what: The KMA has a code of conduct. The Cadet cadet knowingly violated the KMA's code of conduct. The ROK has a system of Judicial Review and Civilian control of the Military. All three?
What are you suggesting - that the story was a nothing story that should never have been reported, e.g on a par with "the sun rose in the east this morning."

Or do you accept that it's perhaps newsworthy, but say C-M was wrong to draw it to our attention?

It's all good when the press reports that a court has found against a heavy institution and in favour of an individual, on a rights issue. And the topic subject is perhaps of special interest to terb members.

So what's your beef?
 

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What are you suggesting - that the story was a nothing story that should never have been reported, e.g on a par with "the sun rose in the east this morning."

Or do you accept that it's perhaps newsworthy, but say C-M was wrong to draw it to our attention?

It's all good when the press reports that a court has found against a heavy institution and in favour of an individual, on a rights issue. And the topic subject is perhaps of special interest to terb members.

So what's your beef?
That this cadet knew the rules, chose to attend KMA, and then knowingly broke the rules.

I don't care if the rule was as trivial as sewing a nickel into his collar or as drastic as castration: he CHOSE to enter the academy and CHOSE to break the rules. When you choose to join a military organization, you knowingly give up your human rights. You are giving the military the right to ORDER YOU TO DIE. How can his superiors trust him to follow orders like that if he won't follow less drastic conduct orders like this? That this cadet didn't understand that is an indication he is unfit for military service.
 

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That this cadet knew the rules, chose to attend KMA, and then knowingly broke the rules.

I don't care if the rule was as trivial as sewing a nickel into his collar or as drastic as castration: he CHOSE to enter the academy and CHOSE to break the rules. When you choose to join a military organization, you knowingly give up your human rights. You are giving the military the right to ORDER YOU TO DIE. How can his superiors trust him to follow orders like that if he won't follow less drastic conduct orders like this? That this cadet didn't understand that is an indication he is unfit for military service.

South Korea has conscription. all males must serve in the military it's logical you are going to get men who are unfit for service.
 

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South Korea has conscription. all males must serve in the military it's logical you are going to get men who are unfit for service.
You do know that not all Koreans apply to or get in to KMA, it's for officer training, not compulsory? Of course you don't. As NP001 said, he chose to apply, accepted the the rules upon entering, and chose to not follow of them. Military service being compulsory has nothing to do with it. I suspect being unfit is something they can weed out most of the time, whatever being unfit had to with it.
 

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South Korea has conscription. all males must serve in the military it's logical you are going to get men who are unfit for service.
Except, as has been noted, he wasn't a conscript. He chose to enter the military academy. He chose to violate the academy's rules.

In a conscript military, it's MORE vital, ESPECIALLY from an officer, that discipline be maintained.
 

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Except, as has been noted, he wasn't a conscript. He chose to enter the military academy. He chose to violate the academy's rules.

In a conscript military, it's MORE vital, ESPECIALLY from an officer, that discipline be maintained.
Which of course begs the question if you don't believe that standing orders apply to you - how can you expect those under you to obey your orders.
 

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Which of course begs the question if you don't believe that standing orders apply to you - how can you expect those under you to obey your orders.
Exactly.

Buttercup, let's frame this in a way that will make sense to you: this was an elite who broke the rules in a way that could not be tolerated in the proletariat, and abused his privileged position.

There. Make any more sense to you?
 

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No different than a college athlete who agrees to abstain from sex during playoff road games or to a curfew. As others have stated, he agreed to the restrictions, then violated them. I hope the fiancee is a real cutie.
 

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Another C-M thread goes up in smoke, well done.

[video=youtube;5XZQcogJ_5I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5XZQcogJ_5I[/video]
 

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telling people not have sex is sexual harassment. why is Korean tax dollars paying for this?
C-M, if Aardie and his little helper does not complain about a post, there is something wrong with it.
 

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C-M, if Aardie and his little helper does not complain about a post, there is something wrong with it.
Sure, I supposed you believe C-M has a legitimate point? Not that you'll ever give a creditable answer. Considering the fact that he knew so little about the KMA to start with and it went downhill from there calling it sexual harassment.
 

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Sure, I supposed you believe C-M has a legitimate point? Not that you'll ever say. Considering the fact that he knew so little about the KMA to start with and it went downhill from there calling it sexual harassment.
If you and your master are against it, chances are good that the point is legitimate and reasonable.
 

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chances are good that the point is legitimate and reasonable.
Really the Søværnets Officersskole, Hærens Officersskole, and the Flyvevåbnets Officersskole all have a do whatever the Hell you want policy?

(The Royal Danish Army, Navy and Air Force Academies.)
 
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