WOW! Saw that live...by far THE most gruesome sports injury I have ever personally witnessed! Never want to see a guy lose like that
I don't see Zingano have any chances against Rousey. So far, no female competitors can even stand on the ground with her. Her judo skills are just too masterful for her opponents to handle.I have to agree with you, I think she;ll have problems with Cat zingano. It was fun to see her win at first and she is classless in this fight. Didn't even shake hands after the fight.
Or Lesnar vs. Fedor.We can only hope for a future Rousey vs Cyborg. That prob will never happen. Just like we all wanted to see GSP vs Silva in their primes.
I hate to break this to you but if you think that the men and even some of the current and former champs are clean than I got a bridge to sell you.I can't understand the desire to see Cyborg fight. She is poison for the sport. She would literally destroy it.
It's like some people are unaware of the steroid scandals over the last few years. They have never heard of Barry Bonds or Lance Armstrong. Roger Clemens. Mark McGwire. Marion Jones. Ben Johnson. Alex Rodriguez. It is terrible for a sport, even a beloved sport like baseball, when its greatest champions are seen as cheats. It casts a pall over the entire sport. Women's MMA, a new sport, simply doesn't have the longterm goodwill of baseball to help withstand that stain. Were Cyborg, a confirmed cheat, allowed to compete and win, the public would see the UFC as condoning steroid use, and women's MMA would take a terrible hit. The shortsightedness here is staggering.
Cyborg is a cheat. She was caught using steroids. You'd be naive to think that that was the only time. She is obviously a steroid abuser. She had that reputation before she was caught. Rousey called Cyborg out on that steroid abuse, saying she had abused throughout her career; Rousey's interviewers didn't question it and there was no backlash: Cyborg apparently has no defenders on this charge within the sport.
When caught, Cyborg, like your Lance Armstrong, was basically unrepentant, minimizing the whole thing and denying personal responsibility. This is typical: these athletes begin with denials that nobody takes seriously; followed by the inevitable confession, perjury conviction, etc. The public hates that kind of dishonesty; but Cyborg is not famous so it didn't create a stir. In my opinion, it's lying and insulting the intelligence of fans that disrespects the fans, not failing to shake a hand. (By the way, other athletes that have snubbed the handshake? LeBron James snubbed Dwight Howard after losing a playoff elimination game. Kevin Garnett snubbed Ray Allen. Conclusion? Big deal. To fuss about a denied handshake but to remain silent about the sportsmanship of a steroid abuser? Bizarre.)
Also, Cyborg looks like she abuses steroids and there is indeed a "look". There's no polite way of saying this: women who abuse steroids wind up looking excessively manly. You would have to be blind not to see that Cyborg is a steroid abuser.
Now Cyborg would no doubt become the new champion via her cheating. But the public hates cheaters and they would hate Cyborg -- which would be compounded by the fact that she has the personality of a barbell -- and wouldn't respect the UFC for rewarding cheating. And to beat Cyborg, you'd have to be 'roided up. All serious competitors would soon be 'roided up. Cyborg would surely win until she was beaten by an even more thoroughly 'roided up competitor. Nobody is going to care about a sport like that.
Basically, there are two choices: have a sport that people care about and respect or have a sport dominated by steroid users.
Cant stand rousey either,you could probably take a round out her Kat.Weidman vs. Silva - Chris looked great in first, glad he won. But sad way to see Silva go out. That leg looked like spaghetti around a fork.
Rousey vs. Tate - Figured Rousey would win, guess I'm glad it didn't end in the first. Total classless tart in victory though. She is one I will enjoy seeing lose. If Dana wanted a real fight, he would sign Cyborg now. God help Rousey when she runs into a true striker... and Cris Cyborg is just that.
Barnett vs. Browne - wow, never saw that coming.
I understand that doping exists, probably in all sports, and at the highest levels. But I also think that there are plenty of clean athletes that excel. And I think there are athletes who make mistakes with supplements and own up to it. And then there are your Lance Armstrongs, your Barry Bonds, and your Cyborgs.I hate to break this to you but if you think that the men and even some of the current and former champs are clean than I got a bridge to sell you.
I'm wondering if you think Rousey dopes? I really doubt it. I don't think Tate dopes either. To me, that looked like a fair fight, where the more skilled fighter won. Rousey probably can live without juicing because of her skill-set. I look at women's MMA, and most fighters do not look juiced up. Couldn't that mean that they are not juicing up?I was thinking the same thing. Its easy to focus on Cris because she looks so obviously enhanced.
Well as I recall one Josh Barnett has tested positive 3 times in his career and not once has he admitted that he was guilty.. There is no male MMA fighter that has been caught cheating and then displayed such a comedically arrogant attitude.
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Weidman was lucky? When Anderson was fooling around in the first fight what was he supposed to do stop trying and beg him to take him more seriously?In my opinion Weidman was lucky....first match his luck was due to Silva fooling around, he wanted to lose. The second fight Silva wanted to win (remember has has been beat bad in the opening round before and has won) but he literally had a tough break. It is a shame. At least he did not cop out like GSP did and wanted a rematch 2 days after the first.
Tate, could have won the match. It appears to have been ego or gruge that diluted her sense of a tactical offense or defense that was her plan as she mentioned...stay away from Rousey and attack..do not grapple...she did not do this..she kept at her. She lost this fight on her own. She went the mile...even got out of a few submissions. She could have won.
Vuillard, Lesnar I wouldn't be surprised using enhancements...GSP maybe for recovery.I was thinking the same thing. Its easy to focus on Cris because she looks so obviously enhanced. But look at Belfort last fight then a photo from 10yrs ago. Hear no cheat chants about him.
Thiago Silva, Nate Marquardt, Chael Sonnen, Royce Gracie, Kimo Leopoldo, Tim Sylvia, Sean Sherk, King Mo, Rafael Cavalcante, Alistair Overeem, Josh Barnett, Stephan Bonnar, Hermes Franka, Phil Baroni, are just some who have been caught using steroids.
Besides flat out steroids, how many more MMA fighters use some form of HGH, EPO or HCP enhancing drugs? Things that don't get tested for, or designer drugs impossible to detect?
Though never caught, I'd suspect Melvin Guillard, Brock Lesnar, and even GSP.
It stopped being a level playing field long ago.
At the end of the day its about money. Fighter need an edge to win. Winning means endorsements, and UFC wants rake it all.
I agree with you Kat.
This card was quick...almost all did not leave the first round. ...Barret and of course Silva were brutal to watch.
In my opinion Weidman was lucky....first match his luck was due to Silva fooling around, he wanted to lose. The second fight Silva wanted to win (remember has has been beat bad in the opening round before and has won) but he literally had a tough break. It is a shame. At least he did not cop out like GSP did and wanted a rematch 2 days after the first.
Tate, could have won the match. It appears to have been ego or gruge that diluted her sense of a tactical offense or defense that was her plan as she mentioned...stay away from Rousey and attack..do not grapple...she did not do this..she kept at her. She lost this fight on her own. She went the mile...even got out of a few submissions. She could have won.
I highly doubt that Rousey or any other female in the UFC would take the compound testosterone cypionate.Anyone who has taken the juice or has seriously trained can take one look at Rousey and see her Cypionate traps to know she's as clean as a Gas Station toilet.
McMann couldn't finish Shayna Baszler and we saw how well she did on TUF. So that has me a little worried about her title credibility.How do you think McMann will do? Wrestler against Judo?
Dana probably had posters made up with Tate and McMann as well Kathleen. But yeah he's becoming more and more just like a dare I say MMA pimp.Also curious, if you saw the post fight conference, any thoughts on Dana having discussed the match of Rousey-McMann with Ronda and having flyers made up before Tate had even fought? I thought that was a prick thing Dana did at the post fight, it was like looking right past Meisha like she was never in contention. I know its part of the sport, but see no harm in waiting a week to announce it.
Here's a lesson I learned a long time ago. Unless you actually see someone taking something then everything else is sheer speculation and should be treated as such.Highly doubt you train around pro MMA guys. I do and I know for fact 95% of them take something. I also know for fact GSP takes HGH. Large amounts of it,
Firstly you have to determine if you have low testosterone levels or not.Speaking of TRT, I'm now in my mid 40's and have been completely unable to reduce my body fat, seems like the body goes to hell after 45. Has anyone here actually taken TRT and noticed a difference? I'm not looking to become a muscular freak but despite exercising more and eating better than I did 20 years ago my body is going crap.