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Phil C. McNasty

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http://www.torontosun.com/2013/12/2...replace-prostitution-laws-to-help-sex-workers

Conservatives set to replace prostitution laws to help sex workers

The Conservative government is giving its strongest signal yet it will replace the prostitution laws struck down by the Supreme Court of Canada with new measures.

"(Justice) Minister (Peter) MacKay can count on my full support to implement an appropriate response to that decision," Public Safety Minister Steven Blaney said Sunday on CTV.

He says he's "disappointed" with Friday's unanimous declaration that Canada's bans on brothels, communicating for the purpose of prostitution and living off its profits are unconstitutional.

The Supreme Court concluded the current laws violate hookers' right to security of the person, but Blaney says the government will find another way to help women because prostitution turns people "into real modern slaves."

"That's what prostitution, in many cases, is all about," he said. "This is abusing women, turning them into, not only human trafficking (victims), but into drug (addicts), into removing sometimes their own identity and using them in a way that is despicable."

Blaney didn't back any specific policy, but Conservative Party members took a definite stance on the issue at their Calgary convention last month.

They passed a resolution calling for a plan "to target the purchasers of sex and human trafficking markets through criminalizing the purchase of sex" - similar to policies already enacted in Sweden and Norway.

But that idea may get some resistance from the justice minister.

"I'm not entirely convinced that the direction that has been attempted in other countries, and this Nordic model being one, is the right fit for Canada," MacKay told QMI Agency last week
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Fucking Conservatives and their stupid Patriarchal family values bullshit. Not to mention how they are bought off by corporations, they are everything that is wrong with this country.
 
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Well now I can't find where I read it. But the Minister of Justice was quoted as saying that he did not believe a Nordic Model was appropriate for Canada.
 
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The Conservatives have to write laws that are consistent with the CCC. The Nordic model would be easily struck down. Making prostitution illegal would also be struck down. A federal election is around the corner, this could be interesting or maybe the Conservatives will ask for an extension until after the election. The CCC does not give special status based on gender, laws to protect woman only will be problematic as there are male and transgendered prostitutes also.
 
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lomotil said:
The Conservatives have to write laws that are consistent with the CCC. The Nordic model would be easily struck down. Making prostitution illegal would also be struck down. A federal election is around the corner, this could be interesting or maybe the Conservatives will ask for an extension until after the election. The CCC does not give special status based on gender, laws to protect woman only will be problematic as there are male and transgendered prostitutes also.
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May we know what CCC stands for?
 
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They will take the Nordic model, add some additional measures, claim it is now the Canadian model, use the "notwithstanding clause" as the measure is designed to deter the emergency of human trafficking and child prostitution.
 
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lomotil said:
The Conservatives have to write laws that are consistent with the CCC. The Nordic model would be easily struck down. Making prostitution illegal would also be struck down. A federal election is around the corner, this could be interesting or maybe the Conservatives will ask for an extension until after the election. The CCC does not give special status based on gender, laws to protect woman only will be problematic as there are male and transgendered prostitutes also.
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They DO NOT have to. The Government did not follow the Charter in 1991 & will pay lip service at best this time. They will listen to " Special Interest " groups that support their party knowing any challenge to Right Wing extreemist , anti Rights & Freedoms newly created laws will take a decade or more to be challenged. By then all the " crusties " that play a part ( The moral MINORITY ) will be long gone retired or dead.
 
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Such a bizarre headline for that article.
"That's what prostitution, in many cases, is all about," he said. "This is abusing women, turning them into, not only human trafficking (victims), but into drug (addicts), into removing sometimes their own identity and using them in a way that is despicable."
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This does not look like the words of someone who wants to help sex workers, it is someone saying they want to make sex work illegal.

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They will take the Nordic model, add some additional measures, claim it is now the Canadian model, use the "notwithstanding clause" as the measure is designed to deter the emergency of human trafficking and child prostitution.
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Yes, this is what I expect. Not only will they make buying sex acts illegal, there will be mandatory minimum sentences and some kind of Sex Buyers Registry that will be shared with US border agents and justice system.
 
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And another thing....:deadhorse:

The Harper gov't recently announced $11 million anti-cannabis program. There will surely be similar funding for an anti-prostitution program to promote the laws they pass. And much of it will be targeted against us, the evil and exploitative purchasers of sex.
 
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And another thing....:deadhorse:

The Harper gov't recently announced $11 million anti-cannabis program
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Uhm, I thought they were on the cusp of legalizing weed in Canada.

I see a lot of negativity in this thread. Try to stay positive, people

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...ment_launching_billiondollar_free_market.html

Conservative government launching billion-dollar free market

The Conservative government is launching a $1.3-billion free market in medical marijuana this Tuesday, eventually providing an expected 450,000 Canadians with quality weed.

Health Canada is phasing out an older system on Monday that mostly relied on small-scale, homegrown medical marijuana of varying quality, often diverted illegally to the black market.

In its place, large indoor marijuana farms certified by the RCMP and health inspectors will produce, package and distribute a range of standardized weed, all of it sold for whatever price the market will bear. The first sales are expected in the next few weeks, delivered directly by secure courier.

“We’re fairly confident that we’ll have a healthy commercial industry in time,” Sophie Galarneau, a senior official with the department, said in an interview.

The sanctioned birth of large-scale, free-market marijuana production comes as the Conservatives pillory Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau’s campaign to legalize recreational marijuana.

Health Canada is placing no limits on the number of these new capital-intensive facilities, which will have mandatory vaults and security systems. Private-dwelling production will be banned. Imports from places such as the Netherlands will be allowed.

Already, 156 firms have applied for lucrative producer and distributor status since June, with the first two receiving licences just last week.

The old system fostered only a cottage industry, with 4,200 growers licenced to produce for a maximum of two patients each. The Mounties have complained repeatedly these grow-ops were often a front for criminal organizations.

The next six months are a transition period, as Health Canada phases out the old system by March 31, while encouraging medical marijuana users to register under the replacement regime and to start buying from the new factory farms.

There are currently 37,400 medical marijuana users recognized by the department, but officials project that number will swell more than ten-fold, to as many as 450,000 people, by 2024.

The profit potential is enormous. A gram of dried marijuana bud on the street sells for about $10 and Health Canada projects the legal stuff will average about $7.60 next year, as producers set prices without interference from government.

Chuck Rifici, of Tweed Inc., has applied for a licence to produce medical weed in an abandoned Hershey chocolate factory in hard-scrabble Smiths Falls, Ont.

Rifici, who is also a senior adviser to Trudeau, was cited in a Conservative cabinet minister’s news release Friday that said the Liberals plan to “push pot,” with no reference to Health Canada’s own encouragement of marijuana entrepreneurs.

Rifici says he’s trying to help a struggling community by providing jobs while giving suffering patients a quality product.

“There’s a real need,” he said in an interview. “You see what this medicine does to them.”

Tweed Inc. proposes to produce at least 20 strains to start, and will reserve 10 per cent of production for compassionate, low-cost prescriptions for impoverished patients, he says.

Patients often use several grams a day to alleviate a wide range of symptoms, including cancer-related pain and nausea. They’ll no longer be allowed to grow it for themselves under the new rules.

Revenues for the burgeoning new industry are expected to hit $1.3 billion a year by 2024, according to federal projections. And operators would be favourably positioned were marijuana ever legalized for recreational use, as it has been in two American states.

Eric Nash, of Island Harvest in Duncan, B.C., has applied for one of the new licences, banking on his experience as a licenced grower since 2002 in the current system.

“The opportunity in the industry is significant,” he said in an interview.

“We’ll see a lot of moving and shaking within the industry, with companies positioning. And I think we’ll see some mergers and acquisitions, strategic alliances formed.”

“It’ll definitely yield benefits to the consumers and certainly for the economy and society in general.”

Veterans Affairs Canada currently pays for medical marijuana for some patients, even though the product lacks official drug status. Some provinces are also being pressed to cover costs, as many users are too sick to work and rely on welfare.

Health Canada currently sells medical marijuana, produced on contract by Prairie Plant Systems, for $5 a gram, and acknowledges the new system will be more expensive for patients.

But Galarneau says competition will help keep prices in check.

“We expect that, over time, prices will be driven down by the free market,” she said. “The lower price range will likely be around $3 a gram.. . . It’s hard to predict.”

Saskatoon-based Prairie Plant Systems, and its subsidiary CanniMed Ltd., were granted the first two licences under the system and are already advertising their new products on the web.

Prospective patients, including those under the current system, must get a medical professional to prescribe medical marijuana using a government-approved form.

Health Canada only reluctantly established its medical marijuana program, driven by court decisions from 2001 forward that supported the rights of suffering patients, even as medical science has been slow to verify efficacy
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I think this is a positive development. For Peter Mackay to be "not entirely convinced" of the suitability of the Nordic model for Canada suggests that he understands that the population is not behind that idea, according to polls.

Though the Conservative convention passed a resolution supporting it, I am sure that the decisions will be made by the PMO, not the party or the caucus or the base (and even the support of the base is questionable on this, except for the hard core social conservatives who haven't managed to get abortion on the agenda, despite clear attempts to do so). They will make their move based on election politics, not some supposed moral stand that isn't supported by a majority of voters. Some in the party will object, and they will be silenced or ignored, since no-one but the very top of the party/government make any sort of real decision.

They will have to take some sort of move to keep the action off the streets, but beyond that they will be looking for ways to offload the problem. Legalized brothels or something like that would be a problem for municipalities, not them, offloading completed!

Then can set up hotlines and such to help sex workers, they can point to existing human trafficking laws, etc, to suggest that the law is already equipped to handle that sort of stuff, and having skillfully avoided a possibly damaging debate, they are off to lose the election because of other problems.

Joy can go suck lemons in the back room, realizing at last that she is behind the times and might just as well quit while she is ahead. (I hope).

Everything will be fine! My life will continue as usual, happy hobbying until I am to old to care!

(La la la la, singing past the graveyard...)
 
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