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bluecolt

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In response to the unique but qualified success of today's unanimous Supreme Court of Canada decision in re Terri Jean Bedford, et al vs the Federal and Provincial Governments and other assorted blowhards, I came across this article on the Edmonton Police Service website delineating the ins and outs of the oldest profession in the world.

Take a look and please comment. www.edmontonpolice.ca/community policing/family protection/prostitution/legalities of prostitution.aspx . Very interesting.
 

pocahottie

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In response to the unique but qualified success of today's unanimous Supreme Court of Canada decision in re Terri Jean Bedford, et al vs the Federal and Provincial Governments and other assorted blowhards, I came across this article on the Edmonton Police Service website delineating the ins and outs of the oldest profession in the world.

Take a look and please comment. www.edmontonpolice.ca/community policing/family protection/prostitution/legalities of prostitution.aspx . Very interesting.
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bluecolt

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Typical. Just go to edmontonpolice.ca and search for "legalities of prostitution."
 

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Canada’s Supreme Court struck down three of the country’s anti-prostitution laws on Friday, including bans on brothels and street solicitation, finding that they violated the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and violated sex workers’ safety.

The unanimous 9 to 0 decision will go into effect in one year, allowing Parliament to provide other avenues to regulate sex work.

Prostitution is not illegal in Canada, though it has been deemed against the law to live off the avails of another’s prostitution, as was street soliciting and operation of brothels. Opponents of the laws said they created a dangerous climate for sex workers. The court found these restrictions were too broad and disproportionate to the law’s goals.

Chief Justice Beverley McLachlin said a law banning “safe havens” for sex workers - who often did not have a choice but to work in the sex trade - puts them in danger.

"The impugned laws deprive people engaged in a risky, but legal, activity of the means to protect themselves against those risks," she wrote. "It makes no difference that the conduct of pimps and johns is the immediate source of the harms suffered by prostitutes."

One current prostitute and two former sex workers spurred the challenge, saying such work would be safer if they were allowed to screen clients and operate in brothels with bodyguards.

One of the plaintiffs, former dominatrix Terri Bedford, said the decision was a “great day for Canada, for Canadian women from coast to coast,” according to Reuters. Another plaintiff, Valerie Scott, said the ruling humanizes those in the sex trade.

Supporter of the restrictions Janine Benedet, who argued in court for the Women’s Coalition for the Abolition of Prostitution, called on Parliament to make pimping and buying of sex illegal. “There is no constitutional right to buy a woman for sex.”

Chief Justice McLachlin rejected the government’s argument that it is not the laws that regulate sex work that puts prostitutes at risk, but rather prostitution itself.

Reffering to a high-profile trial and 2007 conviction of serial killer Robert Pickton, who sought out prostitutes and other women in Vancouver as his victims, McLachlin wrote, "A law that prevents street prostitutes from resorting to safe havens...while a suspected serial killer prowls the streets, is a law that has lost sight of its purpose.”

Though legal prostitution is common in much of Europe and South America, the issue of human trafficking has caused some countries to reanalyze laws governing the sex trade. France is considering a law that applies stiff fines on clients, for instance.

"How prostitution is regulated is a matter of great public concern, and few countries leave it entirely unregulated," McLachlin wrote.

She suggested Parliament has the opportunity to adjust laws on aspects of sex work that often intersect.

"Greater latitude in one measure - for example, permitting prostitutes to obtain the assistance of security personnel - might impact on the constitutionality of another measure - for example, forbidding the nuisances associated with keeping a bawdy house (brothel)."

Federal Justice Minister Peter MacKay responded with concern over the ruling, saying that the government was "exploring all possible options to ensure the criminal law continues to address the significant harms that flow from prostitution to communities, those engaged in prostitution, and vulnerable persons."

Evangelical Fellowship of Canada lawyer Don Hutchinson urged Parliament to adopt models of Sweden and Norway, which criminalized the purchase of sex and of pimping, saying there is evidence that the decriminalization of prostitution increases human trafficking.

http://rt.com/news/canada-prostitution-laws-safety-579/
 

yung_dood

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I was wondering if I could just open up an MP this time next year with girls that offer FS. I'd have a massage table in the room and a bed.
 

TeasePlease

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I was wondering if I could just open up an MP this time next year with girls that offer FS. I'd have a massage table in the room and a bed.
No you can't. MPs are licensed businesses that have to adhere to certain rules. In Toronto, you wouldnt be licensed to sell sex. ( there is no such license...yet).

What you could do (in theory) is buy an MP, and surrender your license to the city ( or just buy the bricks and mortar) . Then operate as a brothel.
 

frankcastle

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Bad News. Pimps will be legit businessmen. Prices will go up. Service attitude will go down.
Here's the thing pimps/exploiters were there when it was illegal and will be there afterwards. It has nothng to do with the law.

What I think the laws will do is to allow women to operate out of an apartment or motel without concern and can report bad johns.

Prices will stay level it hasn't changed much in a decade so I can't see it going up.

Service and attitude again have nothing to do with the law or pimps.
 

icespot

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Bad News. Pimps will be legit businessmen. Prices will go up. Service attitude will go down.
Pimps are parasites that are lazy and pray on burnable girls. Now girls in the industry can get the full protection of the law through licensing. Then we can get the criminal element out of this industry and law enforcement can throw the full weight of their resources to target actual criminal enterprises such as human trafficking.

Also with a better understanding of the people that are working in the sex industry. Governments can start social programs that if the girls or boys so choose to want to get out of that life. They will have the assistance they need.
 

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number of working girls will go up....prices will go down
+1

I think the prices will be stable for the long hall. Too much competition out there. With the emergence of the internet, to many semi-pro's, willing to provide the same services. Not to mention with a crap economy, lots of females out there desperate for cash. Doesn't matter how you slice it, $100-250 hour is still a great gig for a women. Because there will always be women willing to provide at that price, that will stop any agency, pimp, ect dead in there tracks from trying to drive up the price.
 

Anynym

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number of working girls will go up....prices will go down
I have no idea where this thought comes from that business licenses will be handed out to just any girl who applies. It doesn't work that way for any other comparable business, and won't for this one, either.
 

Aardvark154

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Bad News. Pimps will be legit businessmen. Prices will go up. Service attitude will go down.
Do you think that isn't the case already?
No.

However Frankcastle and Icespot are both accurate when they write:

Here's the thing pimps/exploiters were there when it was illegal and will be there afterwards. It has nothng to do with the law.
Pimps are parasites
 

pocahottie

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No.

However Frankcastle and Icespot are both accurate when they write:
True, however awareness surrounding what exploitation is, along with supports in place to ensure the ladies safety when reported- will encourage those to come forward not to mention aggressively prosecuting those who are, will set a presidency. Systematically breaking down organizations where their "profits" aren't worth the risk, will infact have a ripple affect.

If victims of crime were protected, you'd have willing and co-operative witnesses.

When there's transparency, people aren't 'afraid'.

We then could discuss "supports" in place that are equipped with understanding the sex trade and if there is adequate solutions.

Most who go onto OW for instance, aren't going to be able to pay the rent. Time focused on training for better career "options" then is focused on Tribunal issues and ensuring basic shelter needs are met, if even possible.

A minimum waged job is not going to pay the bills.

Which easily encourages any woman in the trade, to re enter regardless of the dangers.

Theres systematic issues that would then need to be "assessed" to ensure when victims report crimes, or their pimps, that theres a sufficient, adequate means of helping them transition out of the sex trade.
 
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