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Low minimum wage costs taxpayers over $7 Billion to subsidize Walmart McDonalds....

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You are the only one who thinks so. Read the article.
The article doesn't even contain the word subsidy, liar. This is yet another case of YOU trying to put YOUR words in and pretend an article agrees.

The other day you put the word capitalism in the pope's mouth when he said nothing of the sort, now this.
 

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In Denmark, an employee at Macdonald over 18 years of age is paid the standard union pay for restaurant and hotel workers: Dkr 174.73 pr. hour. That is about $20 per hour.

Who thinks unions are bad?
And how much of that $20 is clawed back in taxes?
 

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Aardvark154

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Nothing is clawed back.
You're telling us that on an approximate income of 206,880 Dkr* this person owes no tax?

Something isn't right since by my calculations he/she should be paying out 45 percent of their income in tax (not including any deductions). Further this person is I presume paying a 25 percent VAT on most of their purchases.

At that rate with 51 percent of the Danish GDP going to taxes damn straight I'd want a cradle to grave nanny state!


* Dkr 174.73 x 37 x 32 = rounding down Dkr 206,880
 

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You're telling us that on an approximate income of 206,880 Dkr* this person owes no tax?

Something isn't right since by my calculations he/she should be paying out 45 percent of their income in tax (not including any deductions). Further this person is I presume paying a 25 percent VAT on most of their purchases.

At that rate with 51 percent of the Danish GDP going to taxes damn straight I'd want a cradle to grave nanny state!


* Dkr 174.73 x 37 x 32 = rounding down Dkr 206,880
I fucking love a cradle to grave nanny state. So do the people who live in them. Try taking state owned medicare away from Canadians? Good luck.
 

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I fucking love a cradle to grave nanny state. So do the people who live in them. Try taking state owned medicare away from Canadians? Good luck.
The USA will end up as Sweden in social policy, they are just slow learners.
 

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You're telling us that on an approximate income of 206,880 Dkr* this person owes no tax?

Something isn't right since by my calculations he/she should be paying out 45 percent of their income in tax (not including any deductions). Further this person is I presume paying a 25 percent VAT on most of their purchases.

At that rate with 51 percent of the Danish GDP going to taxes damn straight I'd want a cradle to grave nanny state!


* Dkr 174.73 x 37 x 32 = rounding down Dkr 206,880

It is not a claw back.


PS: somebody making Dkr 206,880 will pay about Dkr 15,000 in tax, if he has no deductions. That gives him free education to any level, full medical coverage with a guarantee of speedy treatment (he can go to private hospital if the public system cannot treat him in a reasonable time).

government paid pension is around Dkr 145,000
 

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PS: somebody making Dkr 206,880 will pay about Dkr 15,000 in tax, if he has no deductions.
Don't ask me what on earth table you are using for that, I come up with over double that. But the point remains the same a great deal of this persons income goes right back to the Danish State in taxes.
 

danmand

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Don't ask me what on earth table you are using for that, I come up with over double that. But the point remains the same a great deal of this persons income goes right back to the Danish State in taxes.
Why would I ask you? I used the schedules from SKAT.

Firstly, you are completely misunderstanding the issue. None of this persons income goes back to the danish state, for the simple reason, that it did not come from the danish state.

Secondly, how in the world can you claim that Dkr 15,000 out of Dkr 206,000 represents a great deal. It is probably less than what the average american pays in health insurance.
 

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Why would I ask you? I used the schedules from SKAT.

Firstly, you are completely misunderstanding the issue. None of this persons income goes back to the danish state, for the simple reason, that it did not come from the danish state.

Secondly, how in the world can you claim that Dkr 15,000 out of Dkr 206,000 represents a great deal. It is probably less than what the average american pays in health insurance.
25 percent VAT.
 

Lovehobby

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With all of the taxes in northern Europe the people are at least as well off as lower tax countries because there are services that come with these taxes that low tax citizens need to pay out od pocket. Just as there are big savings with group insurance even in the private sector, there are huge savings when the state is the only buyer. Just picture what happens when countries approach a drug company for a price as opposed to an individual.

Child poverty rate:

Finland 5%
Canada 12%
USA 20%

This is what low taxes means.
 

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In Canada, I bet those poverty rates are driven up by native families. An issue denmark and Sweden don't have.
 

Aardvark154

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Child poverty rate:

Finland 5%
Canada 12%
USA 20%

This is what low taxes means.
It also means that Finland doesn't have large numbers of minorities or large numbers of immigrants. 93 percent Finnish, 5 1/2 percent Swedish, 0.1 percent Sami (Lapp), 0.5 percent Russian. (Swedish is, however, one of the two national languages)
 

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It also means that Finland doesn't have large numbers of minorities or large numbers of immigrants. 93 percent Finnish, 5 1/2 percent Swedish, 0.1 percent Sami (Lapp), 0.5 percent Russian. (Swedish is, however, one of the two national languages)
But Canada does, and with the Canada's tax rate between the two more polar rates, it shows it has nothing to do with minorities, since we are well represented there.
Tax rates, not some racist rant.
 

Lovehobby

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In Canada, I bet those poverty rates are driven up by native families. An issue denmark and Sweden don't have.
Aboriginals are 4% of the population and they are not all poor.
 

Lovehobby

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It also means that Finland doesn't have large numbers of minorities or large numbers of immigrants. 93 percent Finnish, 5 1/2 percent Swedish, 0.1 percent Sami (Lapp), 0.5 percent Russian. (Swedish is, however, one of the two national languages)
Which of course has nothing whatsoever to do with the argument but speaks to the poster's anti immigrant bias, the people who built America, "Give us your tired your huddles masses....."
 

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It also means that Finland doesn't have large numbers of minorities or large numbers of immigrants. 93 percent Finnish, 5 1/2 percent Swedish, 0.1 percent Sami (Lapp), 0.5 percent Russian. (Swedish is, however, one of the two national languages)
No, it does not. It speaks to Finland having made policy changes to support children. Something you would be virolently against.

Here is an article about some of the policies Finland put in place to reduce infant mortality.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22751415
 
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