Toronto voters want a right wing politician who is not Rob Ford

Lovehobby

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The fact that there was no comparable rise in support for Olivia is a pretty good indication.
She goes over 50% 1 on 1 against any one. You are still repeatng yourself and you are still wrong.
 

Lovehobby

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And with the polls having been consistantly wrong in the last two elections.....this is worth how much?
She is the leading candidate for now.
 

Moviefan-2

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She goes over 50% 1 on 1 against any one. You are still repeatng yourself and you are still wrong.
The only polls I have seen that look at one-to-one contests are the extremely dubious Forum Research polls, and the one-to-one comparisons were various candidates matched up against Rob Ford.

Perhaps you could provide the source for the poll results that allegedly show that I am wrong.
 

Lovehobby

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The only polls I have seen that look at one-to-one contests are the extremely dubious Forum Research polls, and the one-to-one comparisons were various candidates matched up against Rob Ford.

Perhaps you could provide the source for the poll results that allegedly show that I am wrong.
You are really reaching. No matter how anybody asks the poll, Chow comes out on top so you "I don't like the pollster, they didn't ask the question the way I like... It is not configured the way I like..." pleeeese. Suck it up. Chow is leading at this point any way you shape it. Does that mean she will win a year from now? No. She is just in the best position.
 

Moviefan-2

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You are really reaching. No matter how anybody asks the poll, Chow comes out on top so you "I don't like the pollster, they didn't ask the question the way I like... It is not configured the way I like..." pleeeese. Suck it up. Chow is leading at this point any way you shape it. Does that mean she will win a year from now? No. She is just in the best position.
According to Warren Kinsella, who is working on Chow's campaign, Forum Research uses a "discredited methodology": http://warrenkinsella.com/2012/01/bucket-post/

Even if you think Forum is credible, it doesn't change the fact that Forum's one-on-one comparisons were only against Rob Ford.

You said there were polling results that show one-to-one comparisons between Chow and other candidates (other than Ford) and that they put Chow ahead and proved that I was wrong. Please provide the source for that claim.
 

Lovehobby

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According to Warren Kinsella, who is working on Chow's campaign, Forum Research uses a "discredited methodology": http://warrenkinsella.com/2012/01/bucket-post/

Even if you think Forum is credible, it doesn't change the fact that Forum's one-on-one comparisons were only against Rob Ford.

You said there were polling results that show one-to-one comparisons between Chow and other candidates (other than Ford) and that they put Chow ahead and proved that I was wrong. Please provide the source for that claim.
this is what I mean, you sound desperate. Do your own research, then climb back down that limb.
 

Lovehobby

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LOL. So in other words once again you are talking out of your ass.
Nope, Global TV put Ford to the fact checker, all lies, the Star outlines his fiscal record, not good, a disaster in every single way.
 

Moviefan-2

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this is what I mean, you sound desperate. Do your own research, then climb back down that limb.
Gotcha. It's not up to me to find the proof points to support your unsubstantiated assertions.

In fact, I'll gladly assert that the polling results you cited (the ones that supposedly prove me wrong) are a complete work of fiction. Prove me wrong.
 

Lovehobby

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Gotcha. It's not up to me to find the proof points to support your unsubstantiated assertions.

In fact, I'll gladly assert that the polling results you cited (the ones that supposedly prove me wrong) are a complete work of fiction. Prove me wrong.
You are like FAST, not a worthy opponent.
 

groggy

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Another poll suggesting that Ford supporters are stupid and poor.
Taking the data from a poll conducted Nov. 7-11 — results that came out before the last week of Ford news, including a historic stripping of many of his mayoral powers by council — Wright identified the hard-core supporters who will not abandon their mayor.
They are predominantly people with lower-income and lower education levels. Some 44 per cent of respondents who don’t have a high school diploma support Ford, while only 17 per cent of those with university degrees do.
http://www.thestar.com/news/city_hall/2013/11/20/ford_nation_doesnt_live_in_etobicoke_according_to_ipsos.html
 

FAST

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No substance

You are like FAST, not a worthy opponent.
Translation,...he CAN'T respond to our posts,...

Just wimps out,...because he has no come back, to common sense, and real economics !!!

FAST
 

Moviefan-2

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You are like FAST, not a worthy opponent.
I was able to prove that the one-to-one poll results you were citing were a complete fabrication. That should count for something.

If Fuji were in my shoes, he would accuse you of lying.

I'm more open-minded. While it certainly looks like you've been telling some nose-stretchers, I don't discount the possibility that you simply don't know what you're talking about.
 

Polaris

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I heard on the news that they are talking about a 2.5% property tax increase.

Ford has only been away for 4 days and already it is Miller time again.

This is quite alarming.

I do not understand it. It is like City Hall lives in a parallel universe, where nothing matters than their petty political games.

In this tough economic times, you cut back. Yourself, your family, your friends, your work place (if you have a job), everyone cuts back.

But City Hall, even with grant money to build subways, still cannot do it, still does not cut back, still endorse Miller time types of tax increases.

What this city needs is tax cuts, and cuts in services. Why oh why is the City Hall government exempt from economic reality we outside of government have to live with?

We need Ford back ASAP.

:deadhorse:
 

mur11

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I heard on the news that they are talking about a 2.5% property tax increase.

Ford has only been away for 4 days and already it is Miller time again.

This is quite alarming.

I do not understand it. It is like City Hall lives in a parallel universe, where nothing matters than their petty political games.

In this tough economic times, you cut back. Yourself, your family, your friends, your work place (if you have a job), everyone cuts back.

But City Hall, even with grant money to build subways, still cannot do it, still does not cut back, still endorse Miller time types of tax increases.

What this city needs is tax cuts, and cuts in services. Why oh why is the City Hall government exempt from economic reality we outside of government have to live with?

We need Ford back ASAP.

:deadhorse:

Too bad, you ain't getting him
 

Polaris

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Too bad, you ain't getting him
The same reasons Ford got elected, are being played out right in front of us.

Some politicians at City Hall claim to be fiscal conservatives. A 2.5% property tax increase if approved by council makes Miller proud.

Remember what Clinton said.

Someone better step up and stop this nonsense of tax increases, and give us tax cuts. Otherwise, someone is coming back from the ...

:eyebrows:
 

fuji

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The same reasons Ford got elected, are being played out right in front of us.

Some politicians at City Hall claim to be fiscal conservatives. A 2.5% property tax increase if approved by council makes Miller proud.

Remember what Clinton said.

Someone better step up and stop this nonsense of tax increases, and give us tax cuts. Otherwise, someone is coming back from the ...

:eyebrows:
That's what it costs to build a subway to nowhere.
 

Lovehobby

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I heard on the news that they are talking about a 2.5% property tax increase.

Ford has only been away for 4 days and already it is Miller time again.

This is quite alarming.

I do not understand it. It is like City Hall lives in a parallel universe, where nothing matters than their petty political games.

In this tough economic times, you cut back. Yourself, your family, your friends, your work place (if you have a job), everyone cuts back.

But City Hall, even with grant money to build subways, still cannot do it, still does not cut back, still endorse Miller time types of tax increases.

What this city needs is tax cuts, and cuts in services. Why oh why is the City Hall government exempt from economic reality we outside of government have to live with?

We need Ford back ASAP.

:deadhorse:
Too bad too few agree with you.
 
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