Gawker Claims Video Exists of Rob Ford Smoking Crack

[acutus]

Family values like taking your toddler out for drug deals?


http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/10/31/court-documents-reveal-cat-and-mouse-chase-between-police-and-rob-fords-friend-alleged-drug-dealer/

Well now......... Cans of juice ! How shocking! Please see above post( #: 5434). Gossip and mysteries.... I wonder what was in those other bags....? Perhaps timbits or Tuna fish sandwhiches.....? Sincerely, Jon .

 

[Questor]

This little St Patricks Day booze up is sounding more serious than I realize. It was done in his office. He was completely out of control. Didn't Adam Giambrone resign as TTC chief and drop out of the mayor's election just because he boinked a lady on his office couch? This incident seems to go way beyond that.

http://www.thestar.com/news/city_ha..._city_hall_night_of_st_patricks_day_2012.html

Two city hall security guards witnessed a “very intoxicated” Mayor Rob Ford, struggling to walk and swearing at one of his staff members, in the early morning hours after St. Patrick’s Day 2012.

This is according to an incident report sent by one of those guards to his superiors — a document the Star requested through freedom of information law earlier this summer, and which the city initially declined to release.

On Friday, the day after Police Chief Bill Blair announced the service had obtained a video of the mayor appearing to smoke crack cocaine, city officials abruptly “reconsidered,” according to a letter that accompanied its release.

On Thursday, Blair told reporters he was “disappointed” after viewing the video of Ford taken in a home that, according to documents, was a “crack house.” This newly released security email describes the mayor misbehaving within the walls of a taxpayer-funded building, in front of his own staff and security guards.

Mayor Ford spent the night of March 17, 2012, drinking and partying with a small entourage in his sprawling second-floor offices and at two downtown bars. The evening involved drugs and two unknown women.

It ended with Ford shoving a young aide who was trying to prevent him from making calls while impaired, according to sources.

The city hall security report notes that, at 2:30 a.m., about half an hour after Ford arrived for the second time, “the mayor headed down and visited the security desk alone with a half empty bottle of St.-Remy French Brandy,” rambling about how “they” — it’s not clear who the mayor was referring to — stole his car. Ford told the two security guards on shift that he wanted to call police. Eventually the guards calmed Ford down, telling him he had not driven that day, and took the bottle of brandy from him.

Twenty minutes later, city hall staff “managed to get the mayor in a cab and off to his place of residence.” Earl Provost, a senior aide who is now chief of staff, went along. At this point, staffers Olivia Gondek and Isaac Ransom told the security desk “they appreciated our assistance and that we could get rid of the bottle of brandy,” the email states.

At 3:52 a.m., security officer Davood Mohammadi emailed Yusuf Kassam, a senior city hall security officer, and Mohammad Mangla, the supervisor, a summary of the night’s events. “Due to the nature of the incident with the mayor, we will not be submitting any reports.” The email they sent, containing details of what happened, was later referred to as an “incident report” by a city hall communications officer.

Mohammadi wrote in the report that Ford was “quite pleasant” with security, but that he was upset with others around that night. The names of those individuals that drew his ire have been blacked out. “On a couple occasions (Ford) started to yell and swear ‘f--- this guy,” ‘f--- you’, etc” and made some very alarming allegations regarding (blacked out).”

Asked to comment on why an official report was filed in an email, city spokesperson Jackie DeSouza maintained this was “an appropriate way to file a security report … This email is in fact an incident report.”
Ford’s spokesman, Amin Massoudi, did not respond to a request for comment.

The security email notes that Ford had already been at city hall earlier that night. Prior to leaving to visit Bier Markt on the Esplanade around 11:10 p.m. Ford had spent several hours with “his entourage” in his suite of offices.

What happened behind those closed doors is not included in the security email, but three individuals who were working in Ford’s office at the time — including two who were present that night — have provided the Star with a detailed narrative of the night’s events. Two former staff members who were briefed on the events also corroborate the account.

It began around 7 p.m. March 17, when special assistant Brooks Barnett arrived for his shift staffing the mayor. What he found shocked him. According to sources, Ford was running around his office doing football sprints from a “3-point stance.” He seemed “overly excited” and impaired.

The mayor was with a woman Barnett didn’t recognize, as well as a man named Peter Kordas. Kordas was a former TTC driver and one of Ford’s long-time pals. The trio was drinking, according to sources.

Brooks, a junior staffer, thought things were getting out of hand. He called Provost, then Ford’s director of stakeholder and council relations.

Sources say Provost arrived just as Ford’s female friend was sparking up a joint.

Alarmed by this — mindful of the sensitivity of smoke detectors in the office and that the strong scent of marijuana can linger — the senior staffer suggested it was time to take the festivities elsewhere. Staffers Gondek and Ransom were also called in from their homes to help.

The group split into two. Ford got in a cab with some of his staff.

When the entourage pulled up at McVeigh’s Pub on Church St., Ford dismissively threw his business card at the driver, and it was left to the senior aide to pay the fare and cool down the situation.

According to information the Star has learned, the mayor was bored by the scene at McVeigh’s and urged his group to move elsewhere. “He wanted to party,” said one former staffer who no longer works in the mayor’s office.

It was around midnight that the group moved, about 10 minutes down Church St., to the Bier Markt, an upscale pub on the Esplanade.

Inside the bustling bar, Ford and his friends were ushered to a private room screened off by a curtain. Sources say another woman joined the party, bringing to at least six the number of celebrants.

As the Star reported in March, several staffers said the mayor appeared impaired on arrival. Staff told the Star they were worried the group was attracting attention. The DJ who worked that night told the Dean Blundell radio show that the mayor was fighting and carrying on “like an idiot.” Sources say an individual working at the Bier Markt suggested to Ford’s staff it would be a good time to leave.

Ford didn’t want to leave. Once they left the private room, Ford broke free of the group, “storming the dance floor,” according to sources. Ford was eventually escorted out by security, sources said, although bar owner Robert Medal denied that and said Ford was “an exemplary guest.”

Once outside, Ford stopped to pose for photographs with passersby on the Esplanade before climbing into a cab to return to his city hall office to continue drinking.

But back at 100 Queen St. W., the festivities took an ugly turn.

This is the point at which the security report picks up the narrative.

The memo’s author, security officer Mohammadi, who no longer works at city hall, wrote to his superior that “it was quite evident that he was very intoxicated as he had problems walking, was sweating profusely and was swearing at Provost as he walked by the security desk.”

Back in the office, three sources say, Ford decided to start making calls. Desperate, his young aides decided to unplug the phone. This sent the mayor into a rage. He shoved the slightly built Barnett with enough force to send him flying backwards.

At that point, Barnett rushed out of the office. Provost was afraid. Others intervened and it was decided that perhaps the party was over.

As noted in the security email, they got Ford in a cab. The mayor was accompanied home by Provost.

Peter Kordas, the Ford friend who was present at the Bier Markt and city hall, declined comment on this story. “I am sorry but I cannot discuss this with you, thank you and have a good weekend,” Kordas said in a brief interview Friday.

On Friday evening, former staffer Barnett told the Star: “I'm not commenting on anything.”

Isaac Ransom, who quit Ford’s office and now works as the executive assistant to Councillor Peter Leon, also declined to comment.

Two mysterious and nameless ladies magically appear for Ford's party. I wonder if they have a presence here on this board? Drunk and disorderly at his office, abusive towards staff members. That's certainly enough to get most people fired.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Do you guys think maybe Rob has a Terb handle??!!

 

[Fred Zed]

Do you guys think maybe Rob has a Terb handle??!!

Highly likely..LOL

 

[acutus]

This little St Patricks Day booze up is sounding more serious than I realize. It was done in his office. He was completely out of control. Didn't Adam Giambrone resign as TTC chief and drop out of the mayor's election just because he boinked a lady on his office couch? This incident seems to go way beyond that.

http://www.thestar.com/news/city_ha..._city_hall_night_of_st_patricks_day_2012.html



Two mysterious and nameless ladies magically appear for Ford's party. I wonder if they have a presence here on this board? Drunk and disorderly at his office, abusive towards staff members. That's certainly enough to get most people fired.

Perhap we should stay on topic.... So Mayor Rob Ford likes to 'party' and was an 'exemplary guest' at a cocktail lounge.... I've attended a party or two back in my time and I like St. Remy, too. I even hobbied some myself way back then. If the Mayor has some Personal issues to deal with in his private life then I'm reasonably certain that someone from his inner circle has mentioned that possibility to him at this point. I wish Mayor Rob Ford all the best at resolving whatever issues may or may not exist in his private life. I think that it's important to remember that Rob Ford has done a lot good things for his city and I'm sure that he'll continue to contribute positively to his community in the future. We'll all have to wait and watch and see........ Sincerely, Jon .

 

[acutus]

Do you guys think maybe Rob has a Terb handle??!!

Lol... That seems unlikely. Sincerely, Jon .

 

[basketcase]

Perhap we should stay on topic.... ...

The topic is the mayor being an embarrassment to the city. He's a public figure paid to represent us but instead he's acting like a spoiled teenager.

 

[mur11]

Perhap we should stay on topic.... So Mayor Rob Ford likes to 'party' and was an 'exemplary guest' at a cocktail lounge.... I've attended a party or two back in my time and I like St. Remy, too. I even hobbied some myself way back then. If the Mayor has some Personal issues to deal with in his private life then I'm reasonably certain that someone from his inner circle has mentioned that possibility to him at this point. I wish Mayor Rob Ford all the best at resolving whatever issues may or may not exist in his private life. I think that it's important to remember that Rob Ford has done a lot good things for his city and I'm sure that he'll continue to contribute positively to his community in the future. We'll all have to wait and watch and see........ Sincerely, Jon .

It's actually quite amazing how different people's perspectives can be based on the same event depending on their ideology
The article that you linked, specifically, never mentions 'exemplary' conduct. Rather the article, which is a Toronto Star article in case you never read it, describes in pretty good detail Rob Ford's behaviour at the party. None of which could be considered 'exemplary; particularly for the Mayor of Toronto.
Moving on, please elaborate on the good deeds that Rob Ford has done. Please note, that while I think Rob Ford is a buffoon, I'm not so ideologically opposed to him that I can't recognize the potential good that he's done for Toronto. Please assume I am simple and describe the policies that you, acutus, agree with. I am curious at your ability to put forth a cogent argument.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Does Warmington have a point: http://www.torontosun.com/videos/2793625462001

You could argue that Paul Bernardo has had more due process then Ford has at this juncture.

Is that fair to Rob Ford??

 

[MattRoxx]

Does Warmington have a point: http://www.torontosun.com/videos/2793625462001

You could argue that Paul Bernardo has had more due process then Ford has at this juncture.

Is that fair to Rob Ford??

I'd like the comparison more if Lisi becomes Ford's Karla and rats him out to the police in an attempt to get a lighter sentence.

It's actually quite amazing how different people's perspectives can be based on the same event depending on their ideology
The article that you linked, specifically, never mentions 'exemplary' conduct. Rather the article, which is a Toronto Star article in case you never read it, describes in pretty good detail Rob Ford's behaviour at the party. None of which could be considered 'exemplary; particularly for the Mayor of Toronto.
Moving on, please elaborate on the good deeds that Rob Ford has done. Please note, that while I think Rob Ford is a buffoon, I'm not so ideologically opposed to him that I can't recognize the potential good that he's done for Toronto. Please assume I am simple and describe the policies that you, acutus, agree with. I am curious at your ability to put forth a cogent argument.

There are a (very) few who still cling to the illusion. But for the rational among us, it is clear now that Ford didn't just associate with known criminals, drug dealers and thugs: he is one of them. His political career has been the cover for all his illegal activities and substance abuse.

I imagine the Catholic School Board and Don Bosco football team are glad they dropped Ford. With playoffs starting now this could have been quite a distraction for the players.

 

[acutus]

It's actually quite amazing how different people's perspectives can be based on the same event depending on their ideology
The article that you linked, specifically, never mentions 'exemplary' conduct. Rather the article, which is a Toronto Star article in case you never read it, describes in pretty good detail Rob Ford's behaviour at the party. None of which could be considered 'exemplary; particularly for the Mayor of Toronto.
Moving on, please elaborate on the good deeds that Rob Ford has done. Please note, that while I think Rob Ford is a buffoon, I'm not so ideologically opposed to him that I can't recognize the potential good that he's done for Toronto. Please assume I am simple and describe the policies that you, acutus, agree with. I am curious at your ability to put forth a cogent argument.

Your observation about politics being about idealogy is indeed correct. Please note that I did not link any article.... Mr. Questor did in Post #: 5437. Please note further that it was a Mr. Robert Medal that referred to Mayor Ford as an exemplary guest in the article. Perhaps you may wish to read carefully and check your facts before attempting to put forth a 'cogent argument'. The many good thiings that Mayoir Ford has done for his community and city are well known amongst his supporters and his detractors. Check Rob Ford's voting record over the years at city hall and his community service. In the meantime you may rest assured that I have no trouble assuming that you are simple, until such time as you can demonstrate otherwise. Sincerely, Jon .

 

[acutus]

'I'd like the comparison more if Lisi becomes Ford's Karla and rats him out to the police in an attempt to get a lighter sentence'.



'His political career has been the cover for all his illegal activities and substance abuse'.

The facts brought to light so far about Mr. Lisi in this matter show otherwise. Your other assertions are spurious speculations. Sincerely, Jon .

 

[MattRoxx]

Check Rob Ford's voting record over the years at city hall and his community service.

Okay.

Mayor Rob Ford silently votes against every community grants program, again
Toronto mayor continued his annual tradition of voting against every one of the city’s community development grants programs. He lost all six votes.


Mayor Rob Ford has continued his annual tradition of voting against every one of the city’s community development grants programs.
The six programs would have sailed through council unanimously on Friday, without a vote, had Ford not placed a “hold” on the items in order to vote against them. He lost the votes 34-1, 34-1, 33-1, 34-1, 35-1, and 35-1.
Ford did not speak before the votes, and he would not answer a question on the subject from a Star reporter in a media scrum.
Ford was also silent when he voted in June against accepting federal money for a gang prevention project that would not have cost the city anything. He lost that vote 33-1.

I can see now why Ford was against "gang prevention" - he had his own little gang of thugs and criminals and didn't want anything interfering with them.

 

[Ridgeman08]

:Eek:

Does Warmington have a point: http://www.torontosun.com/videos/2793625462001

You could argue that Paul Bernardo has had more due process then Ford has at this juncture.

Is that fair to Rob Ford??

Warmington makes a pretty good point.

How would any of us fair if we were followed for a few months, and had our phones taken and perused through, had computer activity searched, and on-line activity recorded, and scrutinized by our families/ friends/ colleagues let alone the entire general public!!??

Answer honestly...

I know there's things that would certainly look suspicious, (my time spent on THIS forum being one of them), if not down right immoral! Would I want my girlfriend, or kids reading my reviews? :O. Fuji, what would your wife think of you if she saw YOUR on line activity???

Most if not all of us take precautions, (deleting computer history, use of hobby phones, pay cash for hobby transactions, cover tracks etc) and that is just with our hobby activity. How many are also drug users? Even if only occasional? In the terms of THIS forum- who knows who some of you guys are in R-L! :Eek: I KNOW there are doctors, lawyers, accountants, bankers and leaders of industry here, and likely elected officials too... )

Anyone who has not done anything similar in their life should step forward and throw that first stone at Ford.

(Disclaimer For groggy/ da fooj, and a few others: I am NOT defending Ford. He MOST certainly needs to step aside, but lets not kid ourselves here- none of us would fair much better if we were subject to the same scrutiny...)

 

[MattRoxx]

The facts brought to light so far about Mr. Lisi in this matter show otherwise. Your other assertions are spurious speculations. Sincerely, Jon .

Here's the court documents.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/180496147...o-investigation-BRAZEN-ITO-REDACTIONS-APPLIED

The facts brought to light do indeed link Lisi with Ford, engaged in very suspicious behaviour.

And making the rounds today is more talk about Blair's mention of a second video.

there is a second video. It, too, shows the Mayor of Toronto getting fried with the same folks. It isn’t evidence in the Lisi prosecution.

edit to add:

Occam's razor: "Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate" or "plurality should not be posited without necessity".

 

[MattRoxx]

:Eek:
Warmington makes a pretty good point.

How would any of us fair if we were followed for a few months, and had our phones taken and perused through, had computer activity searched, and on-line activity recorded, and scrutinized by our families/ friends/ colleagues let alone the entire general public!!??

Answer honestly...

I know there's things that would certainly look suspicious, (my time spent on THIS forum being one of them), if not down right immoral! Would I want my girlfriend, or kids reading my reviews? :O. Fuji, what would your wife think of you if she saw YOUR on line activity???

Most if not all of us take precautions, (deleting computer history, use of hobby phones, pay cash for hobby transactions, cover tracks etc) and that is just with our hobby activity. How many are also drug users? Even if only occasional? In the terms of THIS forum- who knows who some of you guys are in R-L! :Eek: I KNOW there are doctors, lawyers, accountants, bankers and leaders of industry here, and likely elected officials too... )

Anyone who has not done anything similar in their life should step forward and throw that first stone at Ford.

(Disclaimer For groggy/ da fooj, and a few others: I am NOT defending Ford. He MOST certainly needs to step aside, but lets not kid ourselves here- none of us would fair much better if we were subject to the same scrutiny...)

Warmington's been a Ford toadie for a long time. I can guarantee there is no surveillance video of me entering a gas station with an envelope, handing it to someone while pretending to not know that person, and then leaving without the envelope.
And I've never gone on radio to describe the media as "a bunch of maggots" for printing what they (and I) knew was the truth.

Remember: all of the scrutiny and police investigations took place AFTER the Gawker and Star articles about viewing the video of Ford smoking crack. So what Ford could have done, as a rational person, was to STOP engaging in all the suspicious activity and late-night rendezvous, stop doing drugs, stop showing up drunk in public, not write a letter of recommendation for a woman-abusing, drug-dealing thug to try to get him a job on the city payroll.

 

[fuji]

:Eek:
Warmington makes a pretty good point.

How would any of us fair if we were followed for a few months, and had our phones taken and perused through, had computer activity searched, and on-line activity recorded, and scrutinized by our families/ friends/ colleagues let alone the entire general public!!??

Answer honestly...

I know there's things that would certainly look suspicious, (my time spent on THIS forum being one of them), if not down right immoral! Would I want my girlfriend, or kids reading my reviews? :O. Fuji, what would your wife think of you if she saw YOUR on line activity???

Most if not all of us take precautions, (deleting computer history, use of hobby phones, pay cash for hobby transactions, cover tracks etc) and that is just with our hobby activity. How many are also drug users? Even if only occasional? In the terms of THIS forum- who knows who some of you guys are in R-L! :Eek: I KNOW there are doctors, lawyers, accountants, bankers and leaders of industry here, and likely elected officials too... )

Anyone who has not done anything similar in their life should step forward and throw that first stone at Ford.

(Disclaimer For groggy/ da fooj, and a few others: I am NOT defending Ford. He MOST certainly needs to step aside, but lets not kid ourselves here- none of us would fair much better if we were subject to the same scrutiny...)

I don't smoke crack. I don't do cocaine.

Seriously, that is in a completely different league than anything I do.

If Ford were found to be merely smoking pot and getting drunk he wouldn't have a problem, as you say, most of us are no better than that. But crack, cocaine, etc., is beyond the stuff ordinary people do. I also think people would look the other way if he hired the odd prostitute.

But smoking crack in particular shows incredibly poor judgement.

 

[Ridgeman08]

Remember: all of the scrutiny and police investigations took place AFTER the Gawker and Star articles about viewing the video of Ford smoking crack. So what Ford could have done, as a rational person, was to STOP engaging in all the suspicious activity and late-night rendezvous, stop doing drugs, stop showing up drunk in public, not write a letter of recommendation for a woman-abusing, drug-dealing thug to try to get him a job on the city payroll.

No argument from me there... which is WHY I say he needs to step aside.

Care to answer the question now? How would you fair Matt?

 

[Ridgeman08]

I don't smoke crack. I don't do cocaine.

Seriously, that is in a completely different league than anything I do.

If Ford were found to be merely smoking pot and getting drunk he wouldn't have a problem, as you say, most of us are no better than that. But crack, cocaine, etc., is beyond the stuff ordinary people do. I also think people would look the other way if he hired the odd prostitute.

But smoking crack in particular shows incredibly poor judgement.

Again, no argument there.

That's not the question though... the question is, how would you explain to your family/ friends/ loved ones- EVERY activity you've done for the last 3 months? What would your wife think of your hobby? Your girlfriends? Your complete double standard with respects to if she were doing the same thing as you?

 

[fuji]

Again, no argument there.

That's not the question though... the question is, how would you explain to your family/ friends/ loved ones- EVERY activity you've done for the last 3 months? What would your wife think of your hobby? Your girlfriends? Your complete double standard with respects to if she were doing the same thing as you?

Sure, no doubt I would need to find a new wife.