Saudis to behead man for crying at the cemetery.

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(Ahlul Bayt News Agency) - Foreign relations committee of Iraqi parliament condemned the arrest of one of its citizens and the ruling for him to be beheaded.

The committee said with such rulings Saudi Arabia showed their enmity towards Shia Muslims. According to Iraqi media the committee added that The Saudi regime has no right to execute the Iraqi Hajji and asked the government of Iraq to save the arrested Hajji.

Hajj Salaam Kazim from Kazemain was arrested whilst crying in Baqi and was told to stop by the Saudi security forces.

He objected to the Wahhabi forces inside the cemetery and cursed them and their teachings and was immediately arrested. He was taken to the court and sentenced to be beheaded after Hajj ceremonies.

The Baqi Cemetery is a cemetery in Medina, located to the southeast of the Masjid al-Nabawi (The Prophet's Mosque). The mosque is built where the prophet Muhammad (pbuh) used to live, and is currently buried. The cemetery is also known as Jannatul Baqi, meaning "The Garden of Baqi". However, none of its former greenery has been left, as the cemetery was made desolate by Wahabi demolitions. The cemetery holds much significance. It contains many of prophet Muhammad's relatives and companions.

http://www.abna.ir/data.asp?lang=3&Id=474230
 

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Once more a headline doesn't match the real story, well done.
Absolutely agreed. I believe one of the principle differences between Sunni and Shiite versions of Islam is the reverence each attaches—or doesn't—to the physical persons of the Prophet and his familiy, his descendants and their remains and burial sites. Just as Christian Protestants do not hold the mother of Jesus to have the sort of divinity that Catholics accord the Madonna. So perhaps his weeping at the place of Mohammed is buried was of the same order of offensiveness to rigid Wahabis, as some rigid Protestants find the 'worship' of saints to be. Not that any Christians have ever taken such offence to the point of killing. So of course there is no Christian religious strife and brutality to compare or contrast to try and understand this. Perhaps the Arab website thought such differences of belief and their seriousness would be apparent and need no explanation for their audience. Naturally no 'christian' site would ever make such a mistake reporting on the latest Irish kneecapping.

Silly and bigoted post as is.
 

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Once more a headline doesn't match the real story, well done.
What's missing from the title is that the man is a shia pilgrim, no difference...the Saudis are still bigoted for chopping the head of this man and trying to minimize this action is disgraceful.
 

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What's missing from the title is that the man is a shia pilgrim, no difference...the Saudis are still bigoted for chopping the head of this man and trying to minimize this action is disgraceful.
Did I miss this part?
 

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Did I miss this part?
Who can tell? It's a stupid post of incomplete information about an unconfirmed event that may not actually have happened ever, or yet if the story's to be believed. And all far away in a land as famed for bigotry and narrow-mindedness as some habitual Islamophobes here.

You missed nothing.
 

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(Ahlul Bayt News Agency) - Foreign relations committee of Iraqi parliament condemned the arrest of one of its citizens and the ruling for him to be beheaded.

The committee said with such rulings Saudi Arabia showed their enmity towards Shia Muslims. According to Iraqi media the committee added that The Saudi regime has no right to execute the Iraqi Hajji and asked the government of Iraq to save the arrested Hajji.

Hajj Salaam Kazim from Kazemain was arrested whilst crying in Baqi and was told to stop by the Saudi security forces.

He objected to the Wahhabi forces inside the cemetery and cursed them and their teachings and was immediately arrested. He was taken to the court and sentenced to be beheaded after Hajj ceremonies.

The Baqi Cemetery is a cemetery in Medina, located to the southeast of the Masjid al-Nabawi (The Prophet's Mosque). The mosque is built where the prophet Muhammad (pbuh) used to live, and is currently buried. The cemetery is also known as Jannatul Baqi, meaning "The Garden of Baqi". However, none of its former greenery has been left, as the cemetery was made desolate by Wahabi demolitions. The cemetery holds much significance. It contains many of prophet Muhammad's relatives and companions.

http://www.abna.ir/data.asp?lang=3&Id=474230
Wow another bigoted, misinformed post from LickRus bashing Muslims.!
You ever get bored with yourself dude? Maybe try posting something not bigoted or racist for a change? Or even something vaguely truthful? You know, just to switch it up?
 

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It's a stupid post of incomplete information about an unconfirmed event that may not actually have happened ever, or yet if the story's to be believed. And all far away in a land as famed for bigotry and narrow-mindedness as some habitual Islamophobes here.

You missed nothing.
For a post that is , incomplete, unconfirmed that may have never happened, yet you can't stop posting on it, I would say you're getting senile OJ. But thanks for bumping it.
 

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Wow another bigoted, misinformed post from LickRus bashing Muslims.!
You ever get bored with yourself dude? Maybe try posting something not bigoted or racist for a change? Or even something vaguely truthful? You know, just to switch it up?
You'll be happy with this:

Turkey: first 'helal' virtual sex shop is online

(ANSAmed) - ANKARA - Turkey under Islamic nationalist Premier Recep Tayyip Erdogan, whom the opposition has long accused of seeking to replace the secular republic with an Islamic one, now has an online helal sex shop, meaning in line with Muslim law. It went live on Monday, local media reported.

Against a background of wide purple and white stripes, its unerotic cover page features a silhouette of a man in traditional garb, seated on the ground in a meditative stance.

Underneath him, a veiled woman in profile bends her head.

Between the two, black and pink text informs visitors that this sex shop is halal, or permissible under Islamic religious law - as can be surmised from its URL: www.helalsexshop.com. In the men's section, the site offers condoms, pills, perfumes, sprays, and ''delaying'' vaporizers. Women can browse through orgasm-facilitating creams and aphrodisiac massage oils.

Each product can be purchased in Turkish liras, euros, or US dollars, and comes with a brief text on sexuality according to Islam.

Unlike what ''prejudice'' would have us believe, ''Islam encourages sexuality under certain conditions'', the site says. The site is a purely commercial venture and does not purport to have moral or religious weight. ''It's not about educating Turks about sexuality'', said left-liberal Turkish daily Radikal. Therefore, it presumably won't rock the boat as much as American Orthodox rabbi Shmuel Boteach did with his book 'Kosher Sex: A Recipe for Passion and Intimacy'. Published in 1999, it caused an uproar in Israel, and reportedly was one of the reasons he was removed from his north London synagogue.

http://www.ansamed.info/ansamed/en/...virtual-sex-shop-went-live-today_9496291.html
 

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You'll be happy with this:

Turkey: first 'helal' virtual sex shop is online

(ANSAmed) - ANKARA - Turkey under Islamic nationalist Premier Recep Tayyip Erdogan, whom the opposition has long accused of seeking to replace the secular republic with an Islamic one, now has an online helal sex shop, meaning in line with Muslim law. It went live on Monday, local media reported.

Against a background of wide purple and white stripes, its unerotic cover page features a silhouette of a man in traditional garb, seated on the ground in a meditative stance.

Underneath him, a veiled woman in profile bends her head.

Between the two, black and pink text informs visitors that this sex shop is halal, or permissible under Islamic religious law - as can be surmised from its URL: www.helalsexshop.com. In the men's section, the site offers condoms, pills, perfumes, sprays, and ''delaying'' vaporizers. Women can browse through orgasm-facilitating creams and aphrodisiac massage oils.

Each product can be purchased in Turkish liras, euros, or US dollars, and comes with a brief text on sexuality according to Islam.

Unlike what ''prejudice'' would have us believe, ''Islam encourages sexuality under certain conditions'', the site says. The site is a purely commercial venture and does not purport to have moral or religious weight. ''It's not about educating Turks about sexuality'', said left-liberal Turkish daily Radikal. Therefore, it presumably won't rock the boat as much as American Orthodox rabbi Shmuel Boteach did with his book 'Kosher Sex: A Recipe for Passion and Intimacy'. Published in 1999, it caused an uproar in Israel, and reportedly was one of the reasons he was removed from his north London synagogue.

http://www.ansamed.info/ansamed/en/...virtual-sex-shop-went-live-today_9496291.html
There ya go slugger!
Now don't you feel better?
 

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What's missing from the title is that the man is a shia pilgrim, no difference...the Saudis are still bigoted for chopping the head of this man and trying to minimize this action is disgraceful.
And that the charge isn't crying at the cemetery, but cursing blasphemy in a sacred place. Not that I agree with that either but what was the point of such a misleading thread title?

Buddhist Thailand will also execute you if you insult the king.
 

Conil

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Buddhist Thailand will also execute you if you insult the king.
I personally would consider that barbaric too, if it happened in Thailand..but it doesn't, you could go to jail but not executed.
 

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I personally would consider that barbaric too, if it happened in Thailand..but it doesn't, you could go to jail but not executed.
You're right, I thought they did but apparently they only give the death penalty to drug dealers.

In any case the thread title is completely false. He was not sentenced to death for crying. He was sentenced to death for blasphemy, for cursing at the grave of the prophet.
 

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Blackrock and Old Jones are entirely correct in their posts.

The operative statement here is "He objected to the Wahhabi forces inside the cemetery and cursed them and their teachings" not "Saudis to behead man for crying at cemetery."
 

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Blackrock and Old Jones are entirely correct in their posts.

The operative statement here is "He objected to the Wahhabi forces inside the cemetery and cursed them and their teachings" not "Saudis to behead man for crying at cemetery."
You missed this part: Hajj Salaam Kazim from Kazemain was arrested whilst crying in Baqi and was told to stop by the Saudi security forces.

The guy is clearly emotional and crying and told the Wahhabis off, so they decide that its a good thing to kill him and cut his head off and most here are ok with it. (oh at least Fuji disagrees with it)
 

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Why would you waste your imagination on a story like this when you could comment on real issues in Saudi Arabia such as the senior religious leaders protesting women driving and calling it a US plot?
 

fun-guy

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To the OP, your comprehension needs some help. Read the news release slowly again and you'll come upon this:

" cursed them and their teachings and was immediately arrested"

He got arrested and subsequently charged and found guilty for cursing, not for crying.
 
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