Rob Ford Defends Robocalls

[groggy]

Yes it would. I'm fine with facts. However that message is already out LONG AGO. I would hope the message is factual, and not slanderous....and Im FNE WITH IT!

Like I say..it's not done enough!

Ok, and of course it would have to be something not slanderous, which is why I suggested Ford's police investigation and refusal to answer questions.
Crackstarter here I come!

By the way, do you mind passing me your home phone number?
I'd like to try out a bunch of these calls for audience responses.

 

[blackrock13]

Ok, and of course it would have to be something not slanderous, which is why I suggested Ford's police investigation and refusal to answer questions.
Crackstarter here I come!

By the way, do you mind passing me your home phone number?
I'd like to try out a bunch of these calls for audience responses.

I suspect you're on CALL BLOCK, just a guess.

 

[groggy]

I suspect you're on CALL BLOCK, just a guess.

Not to worry, the call will come from Racknine anyways.
That's on all conservatives speed dial, isn't it?

 

[fmahovalich]

Im good with robo calls.

there is not enough contact from our politicians..this is an excellent idea.


Now if you don't like the message.....it's not a reason to dislike the delivery method!


heck I got robo calls from my kids High Schools over the years. An excellent tool!!

 

[SirWanker]

Lets remember the point here.....Scarborough overwhelmingly wants subways...however, their Councillor thinks they should not have it. Is that representation?

While that may be true, have those Scarberians realize that:

• said subway has less stops than the originally proposed LRT
• it will certainly substantially increase taxes they, correction we Torontonians, have to pay for less access
• do they not realize that this is completely hypocritical to what Ford claims to represent in terms of taxation and "efficiency"
• not to mention the financial penalties that comes with the cancellation of the existing LRT contracts plus the two plus years already wasted?

My a$$ Scarboro wants subways...they are as car obsessed as Ford is.

 

[fmahovalich]

While that may be true, have those Scarberians realize that:

• said subway has less stops than the originally proposed LRT
• it will certainly substantially increase taxes they, correction we Torontonians, have to pay for less access
• do they not realize that this is completely hypocritical to what Ford claims to represent in terms of taxation and "efficiency"
• not to mention the financial penalties that comes with the cancellation of the existing LRT contracts plus the two plus years already wasted?

My a$$ Scarboro wants subways...they are as car obsessed as Ford is.

Well..as a starter I'm pro subway..so not a fair question likely. We don't have enough subways. For the third biggest city in Canada/USA with the 3rd busiest airport, we should have been building subways continuously.

So, for a city or Scarborough to want subways...no problem. We need many more.

 

[Butler1000]

While that may be true, have those Scarberians realize that:

• said subway has less stops than the originally proposed LRT
• it will certainly substantially increase taxes they, correction we Torontonians, have to pay for less access
• do they not realize that this is completely hypocritical to what Ford claims to represent in terms of taxation and "efficiency"
• not to mention the financial penalties that comes with the cancellation of the existing LRT contracts plus the two plus years already wasted?

My a$$ Scarboro wants subways...they are as car obsessed as Ford is.

I think the mainstream press has amply covered all of these concerns to the population.

They are a well imformed as can be about it.

So all he may have done is add in more informmation to the voters. If they support the councillors vote then next year he will get his seat back. If not.....

 

[groggy]

I think the mainstream press has amply covered all of these concerns to the population.

They are a well imformed as can be about it.

So all he may have done is add in more informmation to the voters. If they support the councillors vote then next year he will get his seat back. If not.....

Ford add information?
All he said was 'subways subways subways' over and over again.
I hear lots of kids want pony's too, will he start a campaign for pony's for all kids too?

 

[oldjones]

And I hope he would use the city funded office. Nice to see the Mayor getting out a message to his people in an efficient manner. We want our Mayor to speak to the people. This was an effective way to do it.

Anabary's problem is not that he called.....but what he said.

Does this mean you actually approve of telemarketers interrupting you or filling up your voice mail? A robocall is just the lowest possible species of telephone spamming, as the instigator can't be bothered to pay actual humans to make their sales-pitch.

 

[red]

this thread is incredible. people who don't like ford are against the robocalls and people who like him support robocalls. thats very weird.



I am not a fan of robocalls. the less i hear from politicians the better. some of the things i don't like about robocalls- they are made from a service, without clear identification of who is making the call or who it on behalf of, the messages are misleading or fraudulent, they are designed to defeat the democratic process by giving misinformation about voting stations. I would rather the mayor did not partake in these calls, but to be fair- he did indentify himself, the message was factual and did not seem to subvert anything.


With respect to the issue of using the city's phones. I can't say I follow the issue there. I guess none of the other councillors have used their phones for interviews with the media or used their city issued smart phones to make political tweets, etc.

 

[great bear]

I don't like robo calls and I don't like Ford. However I do like my Lexus.

 

[fmahovalich]

I am FOR robo calls. It is an efficient way of getting out the message.

i think people don't like what he said, so are against the messaging format.

Folks, we are in an INFORMATION AGE. Speed, efficiencies and blanket coverage is what dictates our communication era. Think FACEBOOK, TWEETING, MYSPACE.... the list goes on!

If he had robocalled a Christmas message...there would not have been a peep.

All Councillors should use this to get out a message. PERIOD,

 

[groggy]

I am FOR robo calls. It is an efficient way of getting out the message.

I've never heard of anyone else who supports more telemarketing calls.
You don't work for Michael Sona or Marty Burke, do you?

However, it is a good metric for your sense of values.


By the way, Ainslie is calling Ford a liar.
Do you still support lying robocalls?
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013/10/15/councillor_paul_ainslie_calls_mayor_rob_ford_a_bully_and_a_liar_after_robocalls.html

 

[fmahovalich]

You are correct Grogs..... I am certainly against unsolicited sales calls from telemarketers, and support the 'do not Call' technology. Sales calls can be tedious.

But to hear an update on a new highway being built in the area, perhaps some zoning issues, some updates on major issues, info on Subways.... Sure I'm all for quick and efficient messaging.

Heck....people sign up for it with news agencies etc...via twitter. People want information NOW!

So I agree with you Grogs...NO TO SALES CALLS . Yes to political calls. Of course, for those wanting to remain disengaged, the ability to put the number on a do not call list would still exist!

 

[IM469]

I am FOR robo calls. It is an efficient way of getting out the message.

WTF ! Are you so lonely you like a deluge of unsolicited phone calls at dinner time so that you have the illusion someone cares about you ?

So do you invite the Jehovah's Witnesses in for tea when they knock at your door and then they actually run out as you try to convert them to the zombie like religion of Ford politics ?

I thought Rob Ford had started to right himself after the crack smoking episode but this robo-call scum sucking vindictive diarrhea of hate spewed to unsuspecting normal people because someone dares to disagree with this fat fuck's opinion is outrageous.

Yes - I would complain about Christmas carols or Islam sing-songs but I would not particularly don't want to hear unsolicited political bullshit. I got a radio, I got a newspaper and I got a TV.

To defend robo calls because Ford used it clearly identifies individuals who have lost all sense of rational thought. Can you image if every politician robo called every day to give there position or that a green light was given to open it up for all advertisers - your phone would become useless.

Just proves that should Ford melt down and rape a few school girls and nun's - at least he will have some great character references at his trial.

 

[fmahovalich]

WTF ! Are you so lonely you like a deluge of unsolicited phone calls at dinner time so that you have the illusion someone cares about you ?

So do you invite the Jehovah's Witnesses in for tea when they knock at your door and then they actually run out as you try to convert them to the zombie like religion of Ford politics ?

I thought Rob Ford had started to right himself after the crack smoking episode but this robo-call scum sucking vindictive diarrhea of hate spewed to unsuspecting normal people because someone dares to disagree with this fat fuck's opinion is outrageous.

Yes - I would complain about Christmas carols or Islam sing-songs but I would not particularly don't want to hear unsolicited political bullshit. I got a radio, I got a newspaper and I got a TV.

To defend robo calls because Ford used it clearly identifies individuals who have lost all sense of rational thought. Can you image if every politician robo called every day to give there position or that a green light was given to open it up for all advertisers - your phone would become useless.

Just proves that should Ford melt down and rape a few school girls and nun's - at least he will have some great character references at his trial.

Rather harsh? No?

Why are the people of the world signed up for TWITTER? To stay in tune! They WANT INFORMATION. A simple, current, and well received concept..

If they don't like the message...hang up, ignore it,move to the next tweet, whatever.

It's not Like we are talking 5 robo calls a day here. We are talking about an important call regarding an important issue. Perhaps a Christmas salutation.

Somehow if say, Rob Ford had TWEETED THIS MESSAGE, the same anti Ford crowd would find fault there too! You can say it sour grapes because someone 'dared to disagree with the fat fuck'....but it's more than that....Ainslie was out of touch with his constituents and he dared to vote against THEIR wishes!

Again..I'm all for the format. And no..I don't live in the city...but would,welcome an Important update from my Mayor.

 

[Curious36]

I think this is just the start for robo-calls TBH. And ALL political parties will begin to see the value. What is also going to happen is half truths given by every political party in regards to opposition. Lawyers will be consulted and a fine line will be tread upon concerning messages sent. Lawsuits will also follow.....paid for by taxpayers btw. This will open the door to more "gutter politics" from what I see. To stay on topic, I dont think Ford did anything wrong other than inform constituents of how one of their councillors voted on a contentious issue. To those that dont want subways, it will help Ainsley....to those who do want them.....

 

[GameBoy27]

I just heard the robo call. Ainslie's reaction makes him sounds like a whining child.

 

[fmahovalich]

Bang on Curious. The half truths and slanders will be the problem.

however a simple, truthful message like Mr Ford put out, is the accepted way of communicating in this digital age.

Heck no one talks anymore..everyone texts. Mr Ford has just put himself ahead of the curve, embracing and utilizing well received communications methods.....that being INSTANTANEOUS MESSAGING.

who wants to stand at their door and talk to a canvassing person....or ' chat' on the phone ?....NO ONE!!!

 

[slowandeasy]

this thread is incredible. people who don't like ford are against the robocalls and people who like him support robocalls. thats very weird.



I am not a fan of robocalls. the less i hear from politicians the better. some of the things i don't like about robocalls- they are made from a service, without clear identification of who is making the call or who it on behalf of, the messages are misleading or fraudulent, they are designed to defeat the democratic process by giving misinformation about voting stations. I would rather the mayor did not partake in these calls, but to be fair- he did indentify himself, the message was factual and did not seem to subvert anything.


With respect to the issue of using the city's phones. I can't say I follow the issue there. I guess none of the other councillors have used their phones for interviews with the media or used their city issued smart phones to make political tweets, etc.

I am not in favor of Robocalls. But I do think that we need more accountability from our politicians. In this case, I do think that the Ford boys
are doing this out of anger, and in an attempt to "shame" Ainslie. However, I do like the fact that they are stirring up the pot a bit.
If Mr. Ainslie feels that his vote on the Subway issue is in the best interest of his constituents, then why is he acting like he did something wrong?