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onthebottom said:
Why feed the trolls.....
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Why make it so damn easy ???

According to unsubstantiated rumours - Steve Jobs - who shut off charitable corporate donations from Apple when he took over - gave $ 52,000,000 to charity... okay - let's say that is true. How does that figure against his net worth : ~ $ 10,000,000,000. Wow a blazing 0.5 % ... that must have hurt.

When Warren Buffet approached him and other billionaires to give up a significant portion (suggesting 50%) of their billions for charity - Jobs scoffed at the idea. According to Bloomberg, Bill Gates to date has given ~ $ 28 Billion (his net is now worth ~ $ 67 Billion).

Steve Jobs was a marketing guru but an asshole to his co-workers, arrogant and extremely selfish. A telling story : "Jobs's first child, Lisa Brennan-Jobs, was born in 1978, the daughter of his longtime partner Chrisann Brennan, a Bay Area painter. For two years, she raised their daughter on welfare while Jobs denied paternity by claiming he was sterile; he later acknowledged Lisa as his daughter"

I would suggest you keep the worm out of your Apple worship.
 
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IM469 said:
Why make it so damn easy ???

According to unsubstantiated rumours - Steve Jobs - who shut off charitable corporate donations from Apple when he took over - gave $ 52,000,000 to charity... okay - let's say that is true. How does that figure against his net worth : ~ $ 10,000,000,000. Wow a blazing 0.5 % ... that must have hurt.

When Warren Buffet approached him and other billionaires to give up a significant portion (suggesting 50%) of their billions for charity - Jobs scoffed at the idea. According to Bloomberg, Bill Gates to date has given ~ $ 28 Billion (his net is now worth ~ $ 67 Billion).

Steve Jobs was a marketing guru but an asshole to his co-workers, arrogant and extremely selfish. A telling story : "Jobs's first child, Lisa Brennan-Jobs, was born in 1978, the daughter of his longtime partner Chrisann Brennan, a Bay Area painter. For two years, she raised their daughter on welfare while Jobs denied paternity by claiming he was sterile; he later acknowledged Lisa as his daughter"

I would suggest you keep the worm out of your Apple worship.
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Gates and Buffet are well known exception. I'm sure the charities said, 'is that all you giving Mr Jobs'?
 
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Flapjack said:
I'm sure this is from someone who donates 0% of his (her) net worth.
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So you would hope - it would make a billionaire tight-wad look good. Of course I donate through deductions and other causes.

What makes it a rather moot point to the sane is that I have bills, debt and house expenses. We are talking about individuals who have no financial concerns or worries. They have some much money the could equal the GDP of a small country.

I do find it interesting that many celebrities and tight-wad billionaires gain a sudden interest in philanthropy when they are stricken by disease.
 
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IM469 said:
Of course I donate through deductions and other causes.
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"Deductions"? So, you don't just out and out give away money? It has to be clawed out of you?

IM469 said:
I do find it interesting that many celebrities and tight-wad billionaires gain a sudden interest in philanthropy when they are stricken by disease.
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Are you saying that Jobs was in this category?

It certainly doesn't look like he gave away money for pancreatic cancer research. Article says "children's medical center and new main building; and then there was HIV research.
 
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IM469 said:
Steve Jobs - who shut off charitable corporate donations from Apple when he took over -
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Why, yes he did. Of course, taken out of context this looks really bad, right? He took over Apple when it was on the ropes. It would have been the height of fiscal mismanagement to continue to give away money in such a situation.

Now, either you're an idiot for faulting him in that case or you're ignorant of the true situation. Which is it? Stupid or ignorant?
 
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danibbler said:
Now, either you're an idiot for faulting him in that case or you're ignorant of the true situation. Which is it? Stupid or ignorant?
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Wow, it's almost a lover's rage .... Steve Jobs is Apple for you ... the truth hits hard. The sniveling little shit (your love) only got Apple involved in charities from public pressure after the company was well into the black. Spare me the revised history lesson - he had as much heart toward charities as he did for his first kid.

I would suggest that you either are overly sensitive of Jobs because your a obsessed Apple fanbot or a hurt homosexual defense mechanism...

Which is it obsession or homosexual attraction ?

My comment regarding the philanthropy of celebrities and rich people when they are dying is well documented - it just seems odd that they are noted in the prime of life with very poor philanthropy reputations then suddenly ....

Give it a few years - when the idolizing and intense blind fan loyalty subside - the voices of the engineers and people terrorized by this arrogant little shit will only grow stronger and your blind defense only more futile.
 
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Okay last year apple donated 150 million to charities they also launch a employe match donation program up to $10,000

Also when apple had the iPod red which sales from that iPod was donated to aids programs

It's kinda funny to think that some actually believe Steve jobs didn't donate at all to charities.

What one way to get tax credits..... Charitable donations

Steve Jobs seems to be a very private man when he was alive it seems you only read about him in a business sense hardly ever if not never about his personal life.

Which leads me believe he kept his business and private life separate he only took the limelight when it involved a product launch.

Steve Jobs created a tech revolution if it wasn't for the ideal of building a computer in a garage with Steve Wozniak we probably still be using commodores like computers

Microsoft probably won't exist not to mention the whole tech revolution

Now take a figure like J K Shin how much has he donated as person to charitable organizations???
 
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Flapjack said:
I'm sure this is from someone who donates 0% of his (her) net worth.
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Point taken.

Buffet and Gates are worth many billions more and can afford to give more. Jobs company was on rocky road once. His success with the iPhone, etc. is relatively recent. I'm sure if he was the # 1 computer company, he might have given more.

Also, if he donates quietly, and kept it from the public eye, he may not have even claimed a charitable donation receipt or tax deduction/credit as the case may be.

Incidentally, Harold Ballard donated to charity but also kept it secret.
 
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Little Foot said:
Okay last year apple donated 150 million to charities they also launch a employe match donation program up to $10,000

Also when apple had the iPod red which sales from that iPod was donated to aids programs

It's kinda funny to think that some actually believe Steve jobs didn't donate at all to charities.

What one way to get tax credits..... Charitable donations

Steve Jobs seems to be a very private man when he was alive it seems you only read about him in a business sense hardly ever if not never about his personal life.

Which leads me believe he kept his business and private life separate he only took the limelight when it involved a product launch.

Steve Jobs created a tech revolution if it wasn't for the ideal of building a computer in a garage with Steve Wozniak we probably still be using commodores like computers

Microsoft probably won't exist not to mention the whole tech revolution

Now take a figure like J K Shin how much has he donated as person to charitable organizations???
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Jobs was great but I wouldn't credit him with the computer revolution.

Gates introduced the first DOS program for PCs (by IBM) and that took off. Apple or Macs were initially not mainstream computing.
 
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they are both guilty as charged, espec. gates for stealing/borrowing other peoples ideas and then it takes off. Back then that was prob the norm. Pc market was a fledgling. who can foresee the future? And did either one personally claim to have invented it? Or used it to the best means possible?
 
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