Gawker Claims Video Exists of Rob Ford Smoking Crack

[HenrySenior]

http://warrenkinsella.com/2013/08/the-rob-ford-crack-video-the-truth/

Warren Kinsella is a credible source???

Lets see who Warren Kinsella is:-

Warren Kinsella http://www.torontosun.com/author/warren-kinsella :-

J. Warren Kinsella is president of DCG. Previously, he was a partner at the law firm of McMillan Binch, in its Public Policy Group, and has also worked as a consultant, journalist and political Chief of Staff. Warren received a Bachelor of Journalism (Honours) from Carleton University and his law degree from the University of Calgary; he has also completed executive education courses at Harvard's law school and its school of business. From 1990 to 1993, he held the position of Special Assistant to the Rt. Hon. Jean Chrétien, leader of the Liberal Party of Canada. In addition, from 1993 to 1996, he served as Chief of Staff in a number of federal ministries. In 2003 and 2007, he was Chairman of the War Room in both of the successful Ontario Liberal Party election campaigns; federally, he managed the Liberal Party of Canada's War Rooms in 1993 and 2000 An award-winning author and journalist, he's assisted clients on a wide variety of communications, strategic and regulatory matters. His legal practice focuses on aboriginal and governmental affairs, and he is a member of the executive of the Ontario Bar Association, and sits on the communications committee of the Canadian Bar Association. He writes for the Hill Times, and recently published his sixth book, The War Room: Political Strategies for Business, NGOs, and Anyone Who Wants To Win. He will be a regular contributor on Sun News Network.

 

[nobody123]

Aye, Warren Kinsella is a clown and an asshat. A smug aging fuck who thinks, somehow, that he's still punk rock. He's an embarrassment to Liberals, punks, journalists, and even lawyers.


... regardless of what Warren Willsellhiskin says though, the video is/was real (3 reporters independently corroborated what content they got to see) and most likely not faked. But will it ever see the light of day?

 

[mandrill]

Aye, Warren Kinsella is a clown and an asshat. A smug aging fuck who thinks, somehow, that he's still punk rock. He's an embarrassment to Liberals, punks, journalists, and even lawyers.


... regardless of what Warren Willsellhiskin says though, the video is/was real (3 reporters independently corroborated what content they got to see) and most likely not faked. But will it ever see the light of day?

If it is used as evidence and shown in court, yes. If not, no.

The Crown is under an ethical obligation not to reveal evidence unless it is used in a trial or other public hearing.

The Defence lawyer is under an ethical obligation not to reveal evidence unless it is used in a trial or other public hearing.

So, if Siad pleads out and the video is never shown in court, all parties are under an obligation not to show the video to the public. Ditto the cops.

So you will probably never see it. And Ford will continue to be a drunken, ass-grabbing, crack-whiffing buffoon mayor and will happily continue to deny the video even exists and get away with it.

 

[blackrock13]

Aye, Warren Kinsella is a clown and an asshat. A smug aging fuck who thinks, somehow, that he's still punk rock. He's an embarrassment to Liberals, punks, journalists, and even lawyers.


... regardless of what Warren Willsellhiskin says though, the video is/was real (3 reporters independently corroborated what content they got to see) and most likely not faked. But will it ever see the light of day?

Most likely not faked? Nice try at CYA. They saw a grainy film taken on a cell phone days after an ad looking for a Ford look a like. Riiiiiiiiiight.

 

[nobody123]

Most likely not faked? Nice try at CYA. They saw a grainy film taken on a cell phone days after an ad looking for a Ford look a like. [citation needed] Riiiiiiiiiight.

That may be so, but dollars to donoughts that Ford saw the ad and figured it would be fun to party and imitate this Ford fellow. Crack. It's a hell of a drug.

 

[KBear]

Can’t see why the video would be at all relevant to the drug charges. The accused or his lawyer would not be able to use the video as a bargaining chip, especially if the alleged video has already been found by the police.

This story of the police holding the video is more speculation that has been turned into fact by wishful thinkers.

 

[blackrock13]

That may be so, but dollars to donoughts that Ford saw the ad and figured it would be fun to party and imitate this Ford fellow. Crack. It's a hell of a drug.

Wow!!!!

 

[boodog]

Can’t see why the video would be at all relevant to the drug charges. The accused or his lawyer would not be able to use the video as a bargaining chip, especially if the alleged video has already been found by the police.

This story of the police holding the video is more speculation that has been turned into fact by wishful thinkers.

One of the chief police investigators had already confirmed, in the print media, the drug bust had nothing to do with Rob Ford.

Don't think the Crown have the video as part and parcel of the police evidence collected during the year (and half?) long the drug investigation.

Cops can't go on deny things in public while in fact the truth is the opposite........unless this senior police investigator wants to hurt his own credibility and the Crown's case against the drug dealers who the police had spent more than a year to investigate.

Do the defence lawyers have the video? Maybe. Especially a faked one. But its irrelevent for this drug case.

No idea why the wishful thinkers think the defence lawyers have the copy from the crown disclosure because the Crown have the copy from the cops who investigated the drug activities for over a year.

 

[Funk#49]

Will that be this Monday?

Anyone know if they have found the crack video as yet?

Yes tomorrow. Will be broadcast on CP 24 and others

 

[boodog]

Yes tomorrow. Will be broadcast on CP 24 and others

http://ontpress.com/2013/08/20/upcoming-hearings-on-stories-by-star-and-globe/

Upcoming Hearings On Stories By Star And Globe
Posted on by johnsize on August 20th, 2013


More specifically, the following points will be addressed:

(a) In relation to the Toronto Star article:

- Did the article deal with a matter that is in the public interest?
My comment: Yes
- Were adequate efforts made to verify the allegations?
My comment: Not adequate enough.
- Was Mr. Rob Ford given adequate notice of the allegations and a reasonable opportunity to respond, and did the newspaper include that response in its reporting?
My comment: Yes and Rob Ford chose not to response.

(b) In relation to the Globe and Mail article:

- Did the article deal with a matter that is in the public interest?
My comment: Yes.
- Were adequate efforts made to verify the allegations?
My comment: No and absolutely no.
- Was Mr. Doug Ford given adequate notice of the allegations and a reasonable opportunity to respond and did the newspaper include that response in its reporting?
My comment:No. No and NO.
- Was it appropriate for the newspaper to include references to other members of the Ford family?
My comment: No.

When assessing the complaints against the two publications, the Council will consider each newspaper’s own code of conduct, relevant Court judgments and past decisions of Council in similar cases.
Both hearings will be held on Sept. 9 at Ryerson University. The complaint against the Toronto Star will be heard starting at 10 a.m. and the complaint against the Globe and Mail will be held starting at 1 p.m. The hearings at Ryerson will be held at the Sears Atrium, third floor of the George Vari Engineering and Computer Centre, 245 Church Street. Parking is located on the west side of Church, north of Dundas.
After hearing the submission of the complainant and newspaper in each case and asking questions, the panel will adjourn and deliberate in private. The panel’s findings and recommendations will be presented to the full Press Council when it meets in late September. Following those deliberations, the Press Council decisions will be made public and posted on its website.

 

[shack]

This story of the police holding the video is more speculation that has been turned into fact by wishful thinkers.

Add it to the list.

There are enough people in the corridors or power that don't like him that if there was anything close to real evidence related to this episode they would have nailed his ass long ago.

Speculation built on a foundation of innuendo and encased in hope. Absolutely zero irrefutable facts that directly prove any gross misconduct let alone criminal activity on Ford's part has been put forth.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

If there is no video, will the usual suspects (fuji, Jennifer, groggy....etc) admit they were wrong?? Or will they play the "cops are hiding the video" conspiracy card??

 

[groggy]

http://ontpress.com/2013/08/20/upcoming-hearings-on-stories-by-star-and-globe/

Upcoming Hearings On Stories By Star And Globe
Posted on by johnsize on August 20th, 2013


More specifically, the following points will be addressed:

(a) In relation to the Toronto Star article:

- Did the article deal with a matter that is in the public interest?
My comment: Yes
- Were adequate efforts made to verify the allegations?
My comment: Not adequate enough.
- Was Mr. Rob Ford given adequate notice of the allegations and a reasonable opportunity to respond, and did the newspaper include that response in its reporting?
My comment: Yes and Rob Ford chose not to response.

Ford has had months to respond to all the allegations and he hasn't provided anything.
Why did he visit his crackhead high school buddy that he hired to work for him while he was in jail?
What was Ford's relationship to the dead crackheads in the photo?
Did Ford visit the crack house?
Did Ford tell Price where to find the video?
I'd go on, but I'm sure you don't think any of those are important.

 

[boodog]

Ford has had months to respond to all the allegations and he hasn't provided anything.

Agree.

Why did he visit his crackhead high school buddy that he hired to work for him while he was in jail?
What was Ford's relationship to the dead crackheads in the photo?
Did Ford visit the crack house?
Did Ford tell Price where to find the video?
I'd go on, but I'm sure you don't think any of those are important.

To answer the above I quote:

Speculation built on a foundation of innuendo and encased in hope. Absolutely zero irrefutable facts that directly prove any gross misconduct

PS: I can see why Rob Ford chose not to respond.

 

[blackrock13]

Remember this?


http://toronto.canadianlisted.com/o...ford-look-alike-imposter-toronto_1662709.html

18 January 2012

Do you look like Mayor Rob Ford? I need someone who looks like Rob Ford to play the mayor in my film. It's a short shot of the mayor smoking a cigar and chuckling into the camera - as part of a montage. It's a dark comedy set in Toronto. Please send a photo for consideration and more information.
Location: Toronto
Compensation: 20 bucks and good cigar for 21 minutes of your time
Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster.
Please, no phone calls about this job!
Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests.

 

[wigglee]

Anything is possible.

A well respected poster of this board claims that Ford and his brother used to deal drugs back when they were younger in the ravines behind their houses. So who knows.

I can't believe Ford would be so stupid as to allow himself to be filmed smoking crack though.

One thing we have learned in the last few years is that Ford's stupidity knows no bounds.

 

[pointz]

One thing we have learned in the last few years is that Ford's stupidity knows no bounds.

Also, I haven't tried, but possibly when you are smoking crack your guard is probably somewhat relaxed and you may not even realize that someone is filming you.

 

[nobody123]

If there is no video, will the usual suspects (fuji, Jennifer, groggy....etc) admit they were wrong?? Or will they play the "cops are hiding the video" conspiracy card??

And exactly how the fuck are you going to "prove" there is no video?

I've got a better question for you. If (and I will grant you it is unlikely) the video sees the light of day, how are you Ford apologists going to eat your words?

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

And exactly how the fuck are you going to "prove" there is no video?

I've got a better question for you. If (and I will grant you it is unlikely) the video sees the light of day, how are you Ford apologists going to eat your words?

You havent been reading my posts, I'm not apologizing for Ford. All I've said was lets see if the video exists, and if its real. And if it is real he needs to resign.

Plain and simple

 

[boodog]

And exactly how the fuck are you going to "prove" there is no video?

I've got a better question for you. If (and I will grant you it is unlikely) the video sees the light of day, how are you Ford apologists going to eat your words?

I can see why Rob Ford chooses not to respond.

He is a wise one.

Much wiser than I am.