Hand held device ticket advice
- Thread starter outlander
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I don't actually text/talk(without Bluetooth) and drive. The one time I talked I got pulled over. To your disbelief I do care about others on the road. I'm not a careless maniac.
I wasn't looking for any sympathy or a hug from anyone on here. Just asked if it was worth fighting the ticket and you guys jumped all over me.
I still use an ear piece.
Speakerphones on smart phones aren't better than listening with a BT device, whether you hold it, place it flat on the passenger seat, or clip it to your visor.
Can this type of infraction cause your insurance premium to go up (probably a dumb question since insurance companies look for any rational excuse, but such a violation does increase the chance of an accident)?
Unless your insurance premium can go up, I don't think it's worth taking time off work or the commute or prep time.
@ Outlander: I don't think you're necessarily a menace to the road. Shit happens. You know you did wrong. People fight speeding tickets, etc. all the time (it's generally advisable to fight all tickets for insurance cost containment). Along those lines, I don't blame you for asking a simple question. Unless you stated that you think it's a stupid law, I wouldn't be jumping all over you because I'm sure you understand that it's an unsafe practice, but it happens to good drivers, just like not clipping on your seat belt in time or all of the time.
There's still time to revise your over-hasty post. What you need to do is not forget to take your bluetooth with you. Leaving it behind got you into trouble; forget the possibility of starting your car without it. Ever.Lesson learned. I'll never forget to leave my blue tooth behind.
Thank you sirHe's doing well.
Better bet is to turn your phone off when driving; there's almost nothing in a phone call that is even a percentage point as important as being fully attentive to your driving. And when you're trying to figure out why your caller just said the opposite of what she meant, that kid you haven't noticed on the sidewalk will dart into the road after her kitten.
I was told insurance can go up if they find out.
I did have two tickets years ago which raised my premium. I didn't fight them, just paid. My insurance agent told me to take all tickets to court in the future. This is my first ticket in years. I was asking around if there is a chance with fighting this ticket.
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What he said Outlander. It's not a crime to ask what your chances are to fight it, but only if there's a potential insurance rate hike for not defeating the charge. You never know, depending on the jurisdiction, if the trial is delayed by at least 10 months, you have a good chance of staying the charge on the basis of Section 11(b). As 'diehard' also said, ask for disclosure (another possible stumbling block for the officer who must prepare the document, although this seems like a simple charge for them to write about). Another trick for the future is not to make a big scene with the officer, as they will remember you if you tick them off, and might make a greater effort to appear in court against you.
Fight Your Speeding Tickets
http://fyst.ca/
This site may help you for future offences and also includes a philosophical discussion on why it's not wrong to fight all your tickets. Don't know if it talks about hand-held device charges, but it includes possible defences to other offences.
http://fyst.ca/
This site may help you for future offences and also includes a philosophical discussion on why it's not wrong to fight all your tickets. Don't know if it talks about hand-held device charges, but it includes possible defences to other offences.
My paying for sex is an assumption on your part.
However consenting adults participating in a legal activity is far more moral and ethical than breaking the law and then trying to weasel out of it.I'm sure it would, I would have preferred not getting my tickets too.
dont listen to these foolish trolls, outlander. you pay for the courts. might as well use them every time.My paying for sex is an assumption on your part.
I'm sure it would, I would have preferred not getting my tickets too.
from the site:
lol! This is what passes for a philosophical discussion? It's not unethical to claim you didn't do something when you did do it because, errr, technically speaking the law considers you innocent even if you are not? Gawd. Is it any wonder people hate lawyers?
That's an inane statement. Ethics is defined as "the standard of which one hold themselves up against to determine what they feel is right or wrong to do." not as "this is what I'll do if someone's watching."
The courts should be used when there is something wrong with the charges laid against you not when you just don't want to accept the consequences.
