Do You Care That Justin Trudeau Smoked Pot As A MP?

[blackrock13]

It no more damaging than alcohol, probably less so. It also has many beneficial medicinal properties. Hell eating too much flax seed is probably bad for you as well. As long as Justin doesn't just sit in the Peace Tower, between paid speaking gigs, with his Ipod listening to and endless stream of Pink Floyd I have no problem with it.

There's a problem with almost anything...tobacco, alcohol, living beside a nuke plant, as adults we have a choice. I admit some have a different reaction than others, that's the same for every food, plant, the air we breath, everything.. shit they set up places for the needle freaks to go, if I want to sit in my home, listening to my music and smoke a joint, you see a problem?

So because we can actually can kill ourselves drinking too much water we should allow anyone to do consume, make and sell whatever they want, no matter how harmful it is to them and to others with no guidelines or repercussions. Really?

Hey if you want to stay at home and smoke your brains out go for it, but something tells me that not the only time you smoke dope.

There are some medical benefits, but its negative impacts are becoming well documented. Legalize, it but regulate it also, and make some money off it, just like alcohol. Also just like alcohol there should be guidelines on who can grow it, use it, and distribute it. You can't just make homebrew and serve it and sell it to whomever you want.


... and don't say it's just plant, as opium, for all intents and purpose, 'is just a plant'. No I'm not saying dope and opium are the same.

 

[Questor]

If you had slaves (or taxpayers) would you rather they smoked weed or drank coffee and work hard?

Best point of the thread.

 

[Questor]

I've had more than one friend who has ended up with psychological problem associated with smoking dope and it was a long road to recovery, but they will never be the same.

Cops are psychologically unstable to begin with, so this is hardly a valid point.

 

[MattRoxx]

Marijuana can literally change the world, if everyone smoked it, are happy, shared, used hemp as a oil substitute also clothing there would literally be utopia.

Speaking of Utopia, just got back from Brickworks farmers market with this:

Dark chocolate coated with organic hemp, from Chocosol Traders. The hemp adds great texture and crunch.

 

[blackrock13]

Cops are psychologically unstable to begin with, so this is hardly a valid point.

Riiiiiight, and you want people to take your posts seriously.

 

[MattRoxx]

... and don't say it's just plant, as opium, for all intents and purpose, 'is just a plant'. No I'm not saying dope and opium are the same.

Opium is not a plant. In terms to help a Canadian understand: maple syrup is not a tree.

Nobody takes your posts seriously and once again your ignorance betrays you.

 

[blackrock13]

Opium is not a plant. In terms to help a Canadian understand: maple syrup is not a tree.

Nobody takes your posts seriously and once again your ignorance betrays you.

Nice try. What you smoke is not the whole plant either, it's a product of the plant, just like vodka, beer and wine is not the whole plant. Really. That point doesn't make it any less of a danger in the wrong hands. How long did you say you'd been smoking dope?.

 

[MattRoxx]

Best point of the thread.

The irony of that question is that 'marihuana' was first introduced to the USA by Mexican itinerant workers, who used it to help them engage in long laborious field work.
And it was made illegal not because of the invention of "reefer madness" in the 30s, as blackrock thinks. That was simply made up as an excuse. The reason for cannabis to become criminalized was to try and control the number of Mexicans entering the US for work.

http://libcom.org/library/4-mexican-americans-marijuana-1930-1937

 

[MattRoxx]

Nice try. What you smoke is not the whole plant either, it's a product of the plant, just like vodka, beer and wine is not the whole plant. Really. That point doesn't make it any less of a danger in the wrong hands. How long did you say you'd been smoking dope?.

Just admit you're wrong when you're wrong. Marijuana is a leaf that is dried (cured) and smoked.
Opium is made from the dried latex which comes off of poppy plant seed pods. Opium is not a plant. Alcohol from grains etc is highly processed and distilled and alcohol is not a plant.
You are showing yourself to be even more ignorant in your attempt to save face.

You're also pulling this thread farther away from the topic. You have not yet given one good reason why I (or Justin Trudeau) should not be allowed to go to a CCBO store or maybe a micro-grow boutique to purchase a small amount of gov't inspected and approved cannabis to enjoy at home in our off hours.

Nobody will succumb to reefer madness or whatever you call it. No children will be involved. There will be no driving of cars, buses or airplanes (except possibly in online games). It will not affect the lives of Peter Mackay, Harper, Mulcair or you in any way at all.

 

[Moviefan-2]

Just admit you're wrong when you're wrong. Marijuana is a leaf that is dried (cured) and smoked.
Opium is made from the dried latex which comes off of poppy plant seed pods. Opium is not a plant. Alcohol from grains etc is highly processed and distilled and alcohol is not a plant.
You are showing yourself to be even more ignorant in your attempt to save face.

I've seen a few Cheech and Chong films and had to read some of opium-lover Coleridge's poems back in my university days.

Still, I must say I am impressed with your knowledge of this subject. :biggrin1:

 

[blackrock13]

The irony of that question is that 'marihuana' was first introduced to the USA by Mexican itinerant workers, who used it to help them engage in long laborious field work.
And it was made illegal not because of the invention of "reefer madness" in the 30s, as blackrock thinks. That was simply made up as an excuse. The reason for cannabis to become criminalized was to try and control the number of Mexicans entering the US for work.

http://libcom.org/library/4-mexican-americans-marijuana-1930-1937

Not ironic at all, just ignorant, just like more recent laws that allowed segregated buses, schools, and eateries. We've learned much more since the 30's. 'Reefer Madness' was also made because of the same ignorance.

 

[saxon]

What happens when someone gets behind the wheel and kills somebody while high?

 

[MattRoxx]

If it was mayor Ford, the victim would be blamed and the driver would make it part of his election campaign as a Victory In the War On Cars/rimshot

What exactly are you asking? It's already against the law to kill someone with a car, whether high or not. And "impaired driving" is a condition, not a specific intoxicant. It can include pot, NeoCitran, and mixing legal, Rx drugs with a drink or two which would still be under the legal limit for BAC.
And as I said before, that doesn't explain or excuse the laws as they are. What happens if someone is high and doesn't drive? Why should smoking up be a crime in itself?

 

[blackrock13]

Just admit you're wrong when you're wrong. Marijuana is a leaf that is dried (cured) and smoked.
Opium is made from the dried latex which comes off of poppy plant seed pods. Opium is not a plant. Alcohol from grains etc is highly processed and distilled and alcohol is not a plant.
You are showing yourself to be even more ignorant in your attempt to save face.

You're also pulling this thread farther away from the topic. You have not yet given one good reason why I (or Justin Trudeau) should not be allowed to go to a CCBO store or maybe a micro-grow boutique to purchase a small amount of gov't inspected and approved cannabis to enjoy at home in our off hours.

The leaf is a product of the plant, opium is a a product of the plant and alcohol is a product from the plant. The processes to get that product may differ, but the result is the same.

I said earlier I was in favour of the legalizing of marijuana, but making it so with guidelines . Your short term memory is obviously hurting as it was only back in post #62, onl 10 posts and just over an hour ago. That's probably why I didn't make that comment about you and Justin. How long did you say you'd been smoking dope?

No face saving needed.

 

[saxon]

If it was mayor Ford, the victim would be blamed and the driver would get a key to the city /rimshot

What exactly are you asking? It's already against the law to kill someone with a car, whether high or not. And as I said before, that doesn't explain or excuse the laws as they are. What happens if someone is high and doesn't drive? Why should smoking up be a crime in itself?

Dont you know pot leads to harder drugs like crack and heroin? It's true I read it in the National Enquirer.

 

[blackrock13]

Dont you know pot leads to harder drugs like crack and heroin? It's true I read it in the National Enquirer.

I'm sure with some people it does, so just like your Enquirer report, it partially true, but I think the jury is still out on how many are affected.

 

[VanessaofBC]

Speaking of Utopia, just got back from Brickworks farmers market with this:

Dark chocolate coated with organic hemp, from Chocosol Traders. The hemp adds great texture and crunch.

Looks delicious,

^^^ Kelowna, BC (07/13)

edit: first 30 seconds is good.

 

[rgkv]

Legalize, it but regulate it also, and make some money off it, just like alcohol. Also just like alcohol there should be guidelines on who can grow it, use it, and distribute it.

can go along with this....... now whats the problem again??

 

[MattRoxx]

The leaf is a product of the plant, opium is a a product of the plant and alcohol is a product from the plant. The processes to get that product may differ, but the result is the same.

I said earlier I was in favour of the legalizing of marijuana, but making it so with guidelines . Your short term memory is obviously hurting as it was only back in post #62, onl 10 posts and just over an hour ago. That's probably why I didn't make that comment about you and Justin. How long did you say you'd been smoking dope?

No face saving needed.

Yes, I missed that, you are in favour of legalization so I admit I was wrong in criticizing you about that.
However:

Hey, we are all adults and are supposed to be responsible for our actions and choices, but don't call it just a plant.

Is marijuana a plant or isn't it?! When I've grown it, it sure looked like just a plant. Leaves, stems, roots, the whole "yeah that's a plant" deal. Then you take part of the plant, the leaves, and smoke them. Alcoholic drinks OTOH, have all the plant material strained out of them.

 

[blackrock13]

can go along with this....... now whats the problem again??

It is that many supporters are asking, and a few on here, is to just let it be up to the grower, seller, and user to run the show.