There are some who genuinely feel that way and there are some that feel that way for a reason.
I don't doubt there are some insatiable women ....
I do doubt that my opinion is in the minority.....
Where are the Massage Palours for women?
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I don't doubt there are some insatiable women ....
I do doubt that my opinion is in the minority.....
A woman doesn't have to pay a man to service her sexually.
Yoga if you think there are 4000 customers that $160 000 assuming 40 dollar door fee. How many repeat and how often? Subtract out rent and other expenses. Then divide by how many spas?
Flat out if it works there would be someone doing it.
Cows don't need to buy milk.
Yoga if you think there are 4000 customers that $160 000 assuming 40 dollar door fee. How many repeat and how often? Subtract out rent and other expenses. Then divide by how many spas?
Flat out if it works there would be someone doing it.
Cows don't need to buy milk.
Stigma and laws don't keep men away so if women were the same they would be frequenting them as well.
Clearly there is a major difference between men and women.
I think you would need more than 1% of the female population to be customers for "MP for females" to be viable was my point
As to your second point, I disagree.
Going to a parlor for a safe experience with an attractive and skilled masseuse where you set the limits is far superior than then going to the trouble and risk of a pick up
Perhaps, but I am unsure about this point
My question is in other locations where attitude are different and it is legal do MPs for females exist?
That should settle the debate
( as to whether MPs are in legal in Toronto seems to depend on who you ask but even if they are legal most people do not think they are)
Such places as Australia, Holland, eastern Europe would be good place to start researching
I have tried to find this info on the net but i am not skilled at searching the net so i cannot find the answer
Someone with more internet searching skills needs to try
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...but see -
I think you totally do not understand that legalities and social norms don't illustrate the reality of the differences between men and women at our cores...
I do lots of illegal stuff - I am not afraid of doing socially-unacceptable stuff. I doubt I could be considered anything but socially very-liberal... So it is safe to say that I am more open minded than your average woman....
How could anyone consider the average woman to be more Liberal then me?
How could any business actually operate in the black if a "hooker" has no desire to frequent an establishment that would be built on her liberal views on sexualty - I certainly don't represent all "normal" women....
I STILL would not pay a man for sexual services because I don't need or want to.
I think that men do not understand how important it is for a woman to feel sexyin relation to the man she is with...
Totally Mars vs Venus stuff - but Emily explained it very-well in this post.
I do not think you guys totally get-it.....
I do not think enough women could actually enjoy a session without natural insecurities arising.
well stated
i get it now
still i would like to know if MPs for women exist where such activities are legal
IMHO you speak for the majority of women but not all
I definitely do not speak for all women.....
But If I cringe at the thought, I would think most "normal" women would cringe harder.....
Pretty-much all of my female friends are "normal" and in their "dirty 30s".... yet I don't know one of them who would be up for paying for the equivalent services of what I provide....
so, to answer your question, they are balled up and tossed into the dustbin of bad ideas.
"Cringe" is a surprisingly strong word but you carefully chose it, I presume
I appreciate your opinion as it explains this Mars/Venus thing but I need to more fully understand ....
You seem to be stating women need to know a man first and that the man must make them feel sexy for the woman to get over the "cringe" factor.
OK, that is understandable but there are contradictions that confuse me ...
1 Why do you not "cringe" when with a client who is not as attractive as a male MPA would be? As well you get to choose the male MPA who is there to serve your desires to the limits you establish and who has the massage skills to do so ?
2 Although some MPAs have faked it, I have had several enjoyable experiences in a MP because I knew the MPA was enjoying it and they did not "cringe"
3 Although most women do not want a "pick up" some do and they do not "cringe". Is it because they get to know the male well enough, in the short time they have known them, to get over the "cringe" factor ?
4 What about female with a female? Same cringe thing happening?
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Does he give them the RMT receipt too so they can claim it on their company benfits?
the cringe factor has more to do with how I view women who do silly things in strip clubs at parties than it has to do about sexuality..."Cringe" is a surprisingly strong word but you carefully chose it, I presume
I appreciate your opinion as it explains this Mars/Venus thing but I need to more fully understand ....
You seem to be stating women need to know a man first and that the man must make them feel sexy for the woman to get over the "cringe" factor.
OK, that is understandable but there are contradictions that confuse me ...
1 Why do you not "cringe" when with a client who is not as attractive as a male MPA would be? As well you get to choose the male MPA who is there to serve your desires to the limits you establish and who has the massage skills to do so ?
2 Although some MPAs have faked it, I have had several enjoyable experiences in a MP because I knew the MPA was enjoying it and they did not "cringe"
3 Although most women do not want a "pick up" some do and they do not "cringe". Is it because they get to know the male well enough, in the short time they have known them, to get over the "cringe" factor ?
4 What about female with a female? Same cringe thing happening?
Again - I know it's hard to understand from your perspective - but I really do not believe women "hobby" for sexual gratification.
Now that said - I do believe couples call us for sexual gratification - and I do believe there is a market for this for women (usually seeing women)....
The kinky aspect of a girl seeing another girl or a girl seeing someone (man or female) with her partner is definitely a turn-on.
But I think more women would be turned on by seeing another woman than seeing a man.
Maybe we are so used to getting honked at or getting comments from guys that it is hard to think a session with a man would be all about us when we know it would be all about "him"too.
It's very hard to explain what goes through my head at "work" and I doubt it'll make any sense because it honestly makes no sense to me.
I do enjoy my time with my clients - and I hoestly do not enjoy my time more if he's ripped and someone I'd like to be with in "real life".
Once a guy walks through my door - he is seperated in my head as different (coping mechanism perhaps?)
My enjoyment of my time with my clients really, honestly is not affected by my clients' physical attributes - probably because once I compartmentalize them in my brain as someone I may care for or like - they are not someone I want to be with so certain things do not matter (?)
I am not doing what I do for my own enjoyment - I think I may get my enjoyment from feeling sexy - havig this secret side to me..... knowing I am turning someone on.... and knowing that the person I am seeing is nice (don't believe stereotypes - almost all guys who I have every met have been very nice, interesting people....)
But I am not doing this for me. I wish I could explain it better - I just really would have no interest in seeking people out for my own gratification. I cannot imagine having the desire to do so.
The only exception would be if I chose to see a woman (because it's kinky which actually does turn me on...) A man is easily-attainable and his body is pretty utilitarian (lol).... Women are more interesting (and taboo I guess because I am not even bi - which further makes absolutely no sense when I say it I suppose... lol)
Don't take what I said as a downer - I told you... I had my first orgasm ever with a client - I really do believe we can genuinely enjoy our sessions.... But I also believe that the women who are able to survive in this industry NEED to compartmentalize things in their heads. After things are compartmentalized - certain things do not matter and we are not seeking our experiences out for our own enjoyment. (though we may enjoy it.)
I am sure I make zero sense - I wish i was better at explaining.
Our minds can be pretty tricky I suppose....
Jenn is bang-on.
I can't tell you how many times a couple has come in, the woman is attractive, and a week later she emails for a job. Why pay-for-play when you can work-and-earn?
As an MPA my biggest skill was faking it. Over the years I had several real orgasms, but all by my own choice. It's all in the mind, for women.
All women have insecurities, all women even have them with their SO. Add in a stranger who's a hard-body, and they will magnify. Keep in mind most women have trouble orgasm-ing, and the mind is where that struggle lies. So no happy ending, self conscious thoughts, and $$$ out the door....its just not a workable business.
As for legalities, it would be legal here. Most bylaws are written as per sex of the attendant (assumed female) and the customer (assumed male) This adds to how gay parlors stay open.
Lastly, don't get me started on male strippers. And how women behave. Male stripping is so out dated. We don't want a sailor & a fireman. "Sexy" has changed massively for men. It's a different generation/time. But women act like animals around male strippers. They put male pervs to shame! Lol!
I can't tell you how many times a couple has come in, the woman is attractive, and a week later she emails for a job. Why pay-for-play when you can work-and-earn?
As an MPA my biggest skill was faking it. Over the years I had several real orgasms, but all by my own choice. It's all in the mind, for women.
All women have insecurities, all women even have them with their SO. Add in a stranger who's a hard-body, and they will magnify. Keep in mind most women have trouble orgasm-ing, and the mind is where that struggle lies. So no happy ending, self conscious thoughts, and $$$ out the door....its just not a workable business.
As for legalities, it would be legal here. Most bylaws are written as per sex of the attendant (assumed female) and the customer (assumed male) This adds to how gay parlors stay open.
Lastly, don't get me started on male strippers. And how women behave. Male stripping is so out dated. We don't want a sailor & a fireman. "Sexy" has changed massively for men. It's a different generation/time. But women act like animals around male strippers. They put male pervs to shame! Lol!
Adnois use to take in women customers not sure if they still do anymore. if not there is always hiring a male stripper for time outside the club their rates are on average $250 an hour. I remember getting my happy ending a few weeks ago.
and if I want a male escort I travel to Vegas, Yes the trip is expensive, but that is what I have to do to hire a male companion. So glad Remington's is available.
I am definitely a huge exception to the rule. I found a way to get my needs met just like any male hobbyist. took some searching but well worth it in the end.
and if I want a male escort I travel to Vegas, Yes the trip is expensive, but that is what I have to do to hire a male companion. So glad Remington's is available.
I am definitely a huge exception to the rule. I found a way to get my needs met just like any male hobbyist. took some searching but well worth it in the end.
