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Jamie Oliver.....................Macdonalds

lomotil

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As expected with the optics of this graphic video, McDonald's would have to do damage control. However, the methods they used for washing scrap beef with ammonium hydroxide, are they actually dangereous? To maximize profits, companies do all sorts of frugal things. How long has McDonald's been using this practice, and long term studies do they show any danger to the public. What would be the price of a Big Mac if "choice cuts" of beef were used and ground on site in public view? The McDonald's crowd is likely also the wiener and hotdog crowd too, what is likely the source of the meat in a wiener and how is it processed? There was an old saying something like if the public knew has sausage and laws were actually made, then there would be problems. Although I don't eat McDonald's if I had to I would despite Jamie Oliver. Filet mignon and beef tongue, what is the difference? It all comes out as shit in the end?
 

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As expected with the optics of this graphic video, McDonald's would have to do damage control. However, the methods they used for washing scrap beef with ammonium hydroxide, are they actually dangereous? To maximize profits, companies do all sorts of frugal things. How long has McDonald's been using this practice, and long term studies do they show any danger to the public. What would be the price of a Big Mac if "choice cuts" of beef were used and ground on site in public view? The McDonald's crowd is likely also the wiener and hotdog crowd too, what is likely the source of the meat in a wiener and how is it processed? There was an old saying something like if the public knew has sausage and laws were actually made, then there would be problems. Although I don't eat McDonald's if I had to I would despite Jamie Oliver. Filet mignon and beef tongue, what is the difference? It all comes out as shit in the end?

I dont think eating meat washed in ammonium hydroxide on a regular basis is a good thing but I am not a doctor.
 

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I dont think eating meat washed in ammonium hydroxide on a regular basis is a good thing but I am not a doctor.

I understand they also wash their "vegetables" in dihydrogen monoxide. It is also known as hydroxyl acid.

There is a drive to ban this widely used chemical. More info here" http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/dhmo.htm


"Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:

as an industrial solvent and coolant.
in nuclear power plants.
in the production of styrofoam.
as a fire retardant.
in many forms of cruel animal research.
in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical.
as an additive in certain "junk-foods" and other food products.
Companies dump waste DHMO into rivers and the ocean, and nothing can be done to stop them because this practice is still legal. The impact on wildlife is extreme, and we cannot afford to ignore it any longer!

The American government has refused to ban the production, distribution, or use of this damaging chemical due to its "importance to the economic health of this nation." In fact, the navy and other military organizations are conducting experiments with DHMO, and designing multi-billion dollar devices to control and utilize it during warfare situations. Hundreds of military research facilities receive tons of it through a highly sophisticated underground distribution network. Many store large quantities for later use."
 

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I think a large part of the issue is that McDonald's tries very hard to say that it is "Real" food, from natural sources, grown locally. About a year ago they had a social media campaign, where you could ask them anything, and they would answer it. Of course all the answered were "whitewashed" (perhaps with ammonium hydroxide), but they try to portray their food as safe and natural when deep down we know that it's the furthest thing from it.

Fast food, and McDonald's in particular, is our generation's Big Tobacco.
 

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i like how there are still people looking into mcdonalds and if it is healthy or not lol. pretty sure we had that figured out already.
 

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I think a large part of the issue is that McDonald's tries very hard to say that it is "Real" food, from natural sources, grown locally. About a year ago they had a social media campaign, where you could ask them anything, and they would answer it. Of course all the answered were "whitewashed" (perhaps with ammonium hydroxide), but they try to portray their food as safe and natural when deep down we know that it's the furthest thing from it.

Fast food, and McDonald's in particular, is our generation's Big Tobacco.
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I wonder if it would turn children off McDonalds if you showed them how the food was prepared; hydroxyl acid ammonium hydroxide, yummy.
 

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I wonder if it would turn children off McDonalds if you showed them how the food was prepared; hydroxyl acid ammonium hydroxide, yummy.
I remember going on a trip to a McDonald's kitchen as a kid. It was a "slick"presentation - happy employees, good food, lots of "Did you knows...". Again to compare to tobacco, like giving kids cigarettes in school, or having schools sponsored by DuMaurier, or even having your doctor smoke during your physical.
 

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I understand they also wash their "vegetables" in dihydrogen monoxide. It is also known as hydroxyl acid....
You don't even mention the thousands of deaths directly attributed to it every year.

p.s. blackie, you might want to look up 'hydroxyl acid'.
 

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You don't even mention the thousands of deaths directly attributed to it every year.

p.s. blackie, you might want to look up 'hydroxyl acid'.

You had to go and tell him now didn't ya! Ruined all my fun of letting him make himself look stupid(er).

Wait until he finds out more about that horrible sounding chemical "AMMONIUM HYDROXIDE" .

http://www.foodinsight.org/Resource...out_Ammonium_Hydroxide_Use_in_food_production

"Ammonium hydroxide is ammonia combined with water.

Ammonia (NH3) is a compound consisting of nitrogen and hydrogen.

Both ammonia and ammonium hydroxide are very common compounds, found naturally in the environment (in air, water, and soil) and in all plants and animals, including humans.

Ammonia is a source of nitrogen, an essential element for plants and animals. Ammonia is also produced by the human body – by our organs and tissues and by beneficial bacteria living in our intestines"

The list of foods in which ammonium hydroxide is used as a direct food additive is extensive and includes baked goods, cheeses, chocolates, other confectionery (e.g., caramel), and puddings.

Ammonium hydroxide is also used as an antimicrobial agent in meat products.

Ammonia in other forms (e.g., ammonium sulfate, ammonium alginate) is used in condiments, relishes, soy protein concentrates/isolates, snack foods, jams and jellies, and non-alcoholic beverages.

The World Health Organization has listed hundreds of food types that may be processed using ammonium hydroxide when used in accordance with good manufacturing practices. These include dairy products, confections, fruits and vegetables, baked goods, breakfast cereals, eggs, fish, beverages such as sports drinks and beer, and meats.
 

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More silliness from the peanut gallery. BC and I were having a legitimate conversation and you felt the need to intercede with you grade school wit.
And both BC and I using our Grade School Chemistry to mock your gullibility.
 

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We are in the age of the monthly payment and chemically processed foods for most of us unless you drop out of society. This particular attack on McDonalds looks like pseudoscience. Several thousand chemicals are associated with much of the food ingested these days. What is the alternative, lots of the organic food industry is unregulated bulls@+t. The life expectancy of the McDonalds eater would still be higher than the modern day hunter and gatherer, even with equivalent medical care.
 

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You had to go and tell him now didn't ya! Ruined all my fun of letting him make himself look stupid(er).

Wait until he finds out more about that horrible sounding chemical "AMMONIUM HYDROXIDE" .

http://www.foodinsight.org/Resource...out_Ammonium_Hydroxide_Use_in_food_production

"Ammonium hydroxide is ammonia combined with water.

Ammonia (NH3) is a compound consisting of nitrogen and hydrogen.

Both ammonia and ammonium hydroxide are very common compounds, found naturally in the environment (in air, water, and soil) and in all plants and animals, including humans.

Ammonia is a source of nitrogen, an essential element for plants and animals. Ammonia is also produced by the human body – by our organs and tissues and by beneficial bacteria living in our intestines"

The list of foods in which ammonium hydroxide is used as a direct food additive is extensive and includes baked goods, cheeses, chocolates, other confectionery (e.g., caramel), and puddings.

Ammonium hydroxide is also used as an antimicrobial agent in meat products.

Ammonia in other forms (e.g., ammonium sulfate, ammonium alginate) is used in condiments, relishes, soy protein concentrates/isolates, snack foods, jams and jellies, and non-alcoholic beverages.

The World Health Organization has listed hundreds of food types that may be processed using ammonium hydroxide when used in accordance with good manufacturing practices. These include dairy products, confections, fruits and vegetables, baked goods, breakfast cereals, eggs, fish, beverages such as sports drinks and beer, and meats.

... and nothing here will make me eat more Big Macs. My point still stands.
 

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We are in the age of the monthly payment and chemically processed foods for most of us unless you drop out of society. This particular attack on McDonalds looks like pseudoscience. Several thousand chemicals are associated with much of the food ingested these days. What is the alternative, lots of the organic food industry is unregulated bulls@+t. The life expectancy of the McDonalds eater would still be higher than the modern day hunter and gatherer, even with equivalent medical care.
I guess you never saw Supersize Me.
 

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... and nothing here will make me eat more Big Macs. My point still stands.
Nooooo, your point that you made a fool of yourself was when you authoritatively parroted the dangerous sounding chemicals! Without knowing what they were. Dilute ammonia used as a disinfectant to ensure biological food safety.

I wonder if it would turn children off McDonalds if you showed them how the food was prepared; hydroxyl acid ammonium hydroxide, yummy.
 

SchlongConery

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I guess you never saw Supersize Me.

Oh yes, that scientific journal documentary!

You are such a sucker believing the first thing you see, hear, read etc but a stubborn, insecure mule when you are shown the silliness of what you got sold!
 
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