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Dangers of compact flourescent light bulbs

MadonnaLove

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I found this interesting

http://http://wakeup-world.com/2012/05/06/understanding-the-dangers-of-compact-fluorescent-light-bulbs/
You see them in every grocery store and home center – those funny-looking curly compact fluorescent lights (CFLs) that are rapidly replacing the old round bulbs. And pretty soon, the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007 kicks in, requiring bulbs to be 25 to 30 percent more efficient by 2012 to 2014, and 70 percent more efficient by 2020, effectively phasing out traditional incandescent bulbs as a way to save energy and reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

The energy efficiency of CFLs may be significant, but unlike traditional light bulbs, there is a hidden danger sealed inside each little bulb that requires special handling and disposal.

Mercury – a potent, developmental neurotoxin that can damage the brain, liver, kidneys and central nervous system. Infants and young children are particularly vulnerable to mercury’s toxic effects. Even at low levels, mercury is capable of causing a number of health problems including impair motor functioning, cognitive ability and emotional problems. Higher or prolonged exposure can result in much more serious health problems.




CFLs are marketed as “safe” and don’t pose any health risks as long as the glass remains intact. The danger comes if the bulbs are cracked, broken or not disposed of properly. Although it sounds like a miniscule amount – 4 to 5 milligrams – there is enough mercury in just one fluorescent light bulb to contaminate 6,000 gallons of water.

So what does that mean if a CFL is cracked So what does that mean if a CFL is cracked or breaks in our homes, releasing mercury vapors in an enclosed area?
Consumers – especially those with young children –need to know what to do when a CFL breaks and the proper way to dispose of used bulbs. It’s no longer as easy as changing a light bulb.

Mercury Warning:
Compact fluorescent light-bulbs contain very small amounts of mercury and care must be taken in disposing of them or when they break.

The EPA suggests the following:
o People and pets should immediately leave the room.

o Open a window and/or door and Air out the room for 5 to 10 minutes.

o Turn off the central forced air heating/air-conditioning system.

o Thoroughly collect broken glass and visible powder using wet cloths. Never use vacuum cleaners or brooms.

o Put all debris and cleanup materials in a sealable container and put outdoors in a trash container or protected area until materials can be disposed of properly. Do not leaving bulb fragments or cleanup materials indoors.

o If practical, continue to air out the room where the bulb was broken and leave the heating/air conditioning system shut off for several hours.
http://www.epa.gov/cfl/cflcleanup.html

Also check out these frequently asked questions about CFLs below

Frequently Asked Questions Information on Compact Fluorescent Light Bulbs (CFLs) and Mercury November 2010

All of this needs to be done to protect people from the tiny amount of mercury in one fluorescent light bulb. Which begs the question, are these lights really safe and are the risks worth it?

Another equally important concern is what happens to the environment – the air, soil and water – when tons of discarded bulbs, along with the mercury, are dumped into local landfills?

The threat posed by billions of broken CFLs lying in landfills
 

Ridgeman08

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The conversion to these CFL's is a typical knee jerk reaction to "environmental" issues. We've seen this before. Does anyone remember years ago when everyone was complaining about saving trees and converting paper grocery bags to plastic? Everyone was forced to switch to plastic... look how that ended up... then back to paper, and eventually now we all have those woven fabric grocery bags in our cars. It only took 30 fucking years.

I remember when these funny looking bulbs came out. It took me all of 15 minutes research on that interweb thingy to discover that these things weren't the god sent, the likes of David Suzuki and Al Gore were preaching about. I, to this day haven't purchased a single one of them. I have friends and family members that have, and all they do is complain about them. They dont last nerly as long as they claim to, and then there's that whole mercury issue no one has talked about until now.

I have no issue what so ever with truly helping the environment... I spend a great deal of time outdoors, enjoying its wonders... but I really have issues with so called environmentalists. Often times they do more harm than good.
 

larry

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with hydro skyrocketing, i use them for the energy savings. as for the mercury, i can't do anything about that so i don't worry about it. when incandescent are banned, we'll have no choice anyway. the green movement needs to find some new leaders who seriously are concerned about the environment instead of their own fame and fortune. (and how many people do you think dispose of them properly?)
 

blackrock13

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with hydro skyrocketing, i use them for the energy savings. as for the mercury, i can't do anything about that so i don't worry about it. when incandescent are banned, we'll have no choice anyway. the green movement needs to find some new leaders who seriously are concerned about the environment instead of their own fame and fortune. (and how many people do you think dispose of them properly?)
As LED technology improves, they should an alternative. I have them in a few fixtures, especially the ones in the bathroom and bedroom and like them a lot. Especially when you first get up in the morning and turn the light on. It's soft and low at first, but get to full blast in about 20 seconds, much easier on the eyes.
 

Ringworld

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I started to stock up on traditional (incandescent) light bulbs before the phase-out date was pushed out. Traditional bulbs are healthier on an individual basis because they emit a broad spectrum of light, similar to sunlight, and they don't flicker like fluorescents or LEDs with a cheap rectifier circuit. I agree though, LEDs are the future.
 

james t kirk

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I believe that the 100 watt incandescent will be banned as of December 31, 2013 (i.e. this Christmas).

Time to stockpile as I HATE CFLs.

Incandescent light bulbs do not cost that much to operate.

A 100 watt bulb burning for 10 hours is 1 kw.hr and would cost 12 cents for that entire 10 hour period to operate.

The big gobblers of power are any appliance associated with heat transfer.

1. Refridgerators
2. Air Conditioners
3. Ovens
4. Dryers
5. Hot Water Tanks

Etc. Anything that either produces or removes heat.

But a lowly incandescent bulb?

Please.

Besides, if you think that Ontario Power Generation (OPG) is going to dial back those turbines (ever) you are sadly mistaken. One, they can't do it. Two, the power just goes into "the grid" and it would be sold to the Americans.


Ultimately, I believe the decision to use CFLs or Incandescents should be left up to the individual.
 

highpark

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I use the cfl's and used to take the used ones to home Depot. But like all the other caring considering scum fucking corporations, Home Depot doesn't take them any more. So what am I supposed to do with the burnt out ones.
Any answer on this people.????
 

larry

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As LED technology improves, they should an alternative. I have them in a few fixtures, especially the ones in the bathroom and bedroom and like them a lot. Especially when you first get up in the morning and turn the light on. It's soft and low at first, but get to full blast in about 20 seconds, much easier on the eyes.
gee, and i used to think that waiting for the darn light to put out full output was a negative.
 

my2cents

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I agree about the options but looks like led is the trend to replace CFLs
 

Ben Hogan

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I use the cfl's and used to take the used ones to home Depot. But like all the other caring considering scum fucking corporations, Home Depot doesn't take them any more. So what am I supposed to do with the burnt out ones.
Any answer on this people.????
I think some other retailers such as Lowe's will take them.
 

Aardvark154

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There are recycling points for them all over the place and they don't smash that often. LED lights are likely to supplant them.
 

GameBoy27

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I use the cfl's and used to take the used ones to home Depot. But like all the other caring considering scum fucking corporations, Home Depot doesn't take them any more. So what am I supposed to do with the burnt out ones.
Any answer on this people.????
Typical of McGuinty's shortsighted government to ban incandescents without having a plan in place to properly recycle burnt out CFL bulbs. On one hand they talk about protecting the environment but on the other do nothing about it. Unless you make it convenient for people to dispose of the mercury filled bulbs, people are just going to put them in the garbage.

Hell, many people are so lazy they can't even be bothered to put recyclables in the proper container. Don't expect people to go out of their way to recycle a CFL so the majority will end up in landfill.

LED's are the wave of the future. They're still a bit pricey but they'll come down as they become more widely used. Just look at many new cars, manufacturers' are using LED's for daytime running lights, brake and center tail lights. Just a matter of time before LED's will replace current headlights as well.

If you're worried about breaking a CFL, you can buy them with a plastic housing. I've only ever broken one and I'm not too concerned about the health effects of cleaning it up.

 

GameBoy27

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Canadian Tire, Rona and Ikea take CFL bulbs.


http://www.projectporchlight.com/content/cfl-recyclers
Which gets back to my point of making disposal convenient. Unless you have enough time on your hands to store your burnt out CFL's until such time as you're ready to take them back to Canadian Tire, Rona or Ikea on your next trip, most people will just put them in the trash. Especially when everyone is preaching "take public transit, walk or ride a bicycle". Gimme a break, who actually takes transit to one of those places? Unless all you want to do is return a light bulb, and buy another.
 

Gentle Ben

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SAid it before, when we toss out a regular light bulb we toss a bit of metal and glass. when we toss out a cfl we toss out plastic, glass, mercury, copper,solder and the list goes on. even if we recycle, how much of the bulb is recycled, I can gurantee not 100% of the assembly is recycled. what is the cost to recycle? it's not free , nor is it sustainable on its own . in other words you could not make a living off of recycling cfl bulbs... as far as their life? I bet very few make the actual suggested life span. I am now writing on the base when I installed, I had 1 blow last night in my basement, installed Feb 2011 so just short of 2 1/2 yrs.
 

FirstCaveman

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Remember when we used to actually 'play' with liquid mercury in high school chemistry class ? An it ha, hasn, t boterdb mi.
 

fmahovalich

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This is all part of that IDIOTIC LIBERAL MCGUINTY PLAN to give us overpriced solar and wind energy and pushing expensive bulbs like this.

McGuinty would claim that he is creating jobs....sure he is, in an expensive unneeded field. There are much more efficient was to get hydro and create jobs at the same time.

Too bad the Liberals are too daft!
 
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