Mayor Ford getting rave reviews!!

fmahovalich

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Seems that recent numbers tabulated regarding complaints about garbage collection have given the Mayor a ringing endorsement over his decision to privatize garbage collection.

While startup issues caused some expected complaints, the service has steadily improved, and now the private collectors are outperforming the unionized city staff by a wide margin.

Complaints in the GFL privatized areas have fallen to roughly 15 to week, while the Union boys have double that number on any given week.

Atrocious really. Perhaps the Union boys will actually have to start earning their money!!!

Of course all of this done while SAVING MILLIONS AND MILLIONS.

Kudos to FORD and his push for respecting the taxpayers.
 

5hummer

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Proves many people's point, Ford is great with (the small stuff like) garbage -- the other stuff, not so much.
 

Butler1000

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Just wait until the next budget fight at the end of 2013. The surplus will have to be dealt with. And all the usual suspects will be there with there hand out. If the council spends friviously, and doesn't take care of the Gardiner, a lot of people are going to forget about the earlier scandals.
This little bit of news will help too. But that I think is going to be the tell leading into the next election.
 

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Proves many people's point, Ford is great with (the small stuff like) garbage -- the other stuff, not so much.
Alright I'll bite.

What other stuff should I as a rate payer in the City of Toronto be concerned about?

There's garbage collection, pot holes, crime, taxes.

There's traffic congestion, but no one on the left or right has any money, and us taxpayers don't exactly want to give anymore.
 

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Alright I'll bite.

What other stuff should I as a rate payer in the City of Toronto be concerned about?

There's garbage collection, pot holes, crime, taxes.

There's traffic congestion, but no one on the left or right has any money, and us taxpayers don't exactly want to give anymore.
Subways, subways, subways?

All the more important when you're ducking chunks of concrete falling off the Gardner.
 

Butler1000

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Subways, subways, subways?

All the more important when you're ducking chunks of concrete falling off the Gardner.
Exactly. And that's where the 2013 budget surplus should go. To fixing the Gardiner. Ofcourse some of that surplus came from the garbage deal. So perhaps privatizing the rest of the city would be an excellent choice. More money for other backlogged repairs.
 

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Subways, subways, subways?

All the more important when you're ducking chunks of concrete falling off the Gardner.
Not sure what your point is.

The previous mayor, like the current, had no money to build subways. Anyone can see that. The only difference between the two is one liked streetcars the other doesn't.

As for the Gardiner, it was the neglect of Miller's regime that has lead to its delapidated state.

Put Miller against Ford today in an election for mayor, I think Miller will get crushed.

The problem with Miller and his leftist minions, is that they never did anything for the city of Toronto, except raise taxes and balloon the budget. Never did anything for me, other than raise taxes and a garbage strike.

Mayor Ford, he's nothing for the city of Toronto either. But he has lived up to his reputation as a penny pincher, and he actually gave back tax money and axed that hated vehicle tax.

The choice clear. People will take their chances with Ford, and damn world opinion.

LOL! :Eek:
 

Insidious Von

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Sorry folks, the Gardiner is a money pit and it's only going to get worse. Nothing Miller could have done, nor Ford presently. Toronto needs more subways, preferably one across Dundas and Kingston but that's never going to happen.

Btw, what was the point about bidding for the Pan Am Games?
 

fmahovalich

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Does anyone know? Do surpluses ever go to pay down debt? I assume some does, but do we ever get serious about getting into black ink?

Ie...Mississauga has been debt free since 1978. I think they may have to borrow some money this year...for the new transit way and other infrastructure..but have managed to keep INTEREST payments in check.
 

oldjones

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Alright I'll bite.

What other stuff should I as a rate payer in the City of Toronto be concerned about?

There's garbage collection, pot holes, crime, taxes.

There's traffic congestion, but no one on the left or right has any money, and us taxpayers don't exactly want to give anymore.
Having five out of Ontario's wortst ten roads might suggest something useful for Toronto to spend some money on. Of course with a Mayor dedicated to seeing Toronto has as little money as possible, that fix—along with replacing NorthYork's cheapo and rusting water mains— will be a long time coming.
 

Butler1000

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Having five out of Ontario's wortst ten roads might suggest something useful for Toronto to spend some money on. Of course with a Mayor dedicated to seeing Toronto has as little money as possible, that fix—along with replacing NorthYork's cheapo and rusting water mains— will be a long time coming.
You are absolutely right. But a 30% increase in the city budget over the last administration didn't seem to help either. It isn't the amount so much as how it is spent. I believe there is enough money there. I just needs to be more wisely used.
 

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You are absolutely right. But a 30% increase in the city budget over the last administration didn't seem to help either. It isn't the amount so much as how it is spent. I believe there is enough money there. I just needs to be more wisely used.
Well by now it's obvious we'll need a better-qualified chief executive to find the money you think is already there. One who reads the material that's supposed to inform him instead of pretending to while driving on expressways would be a start.

But given that no Mayor this City has had has ever found it, my bet would be the money is not there. Perhaps because Toronto's taxes are among the GTA's lowest. Could that possible be why Miller brought in two new taxes?
 

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I cliked on this thread thinking that Mayor Ford was reviewing a Rave.
 

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Well by now it's obvious we'll need a better-qualified chief executive to find the money you think is already there. One who reads the material that's supposed to inform him instead of pretending to while driving on expressways would be a start.

But given that no Mayor this City has had has ever found it, my bet would be the money is not there. Perhaps because Toronto's taxes are among the GTA's lowest. Could that possible be why Miller brought in two new taxes?
We are in disagreement on this. When projects like the Peter st shelter go E years and 100% over budget there is a problem. When it costs 15 million to build 40 shelter beds there is a problem. And finally when this isn't questioned there is Definitely a problem.
When the council can save millions on garbage collection and fight it there is a problem.
When 10 members of council think its ok to cost the city 10 million in penalties to save a section of grass there is a problem.
When the council thinks its ok to sit on millions of dollars worth of unused property while occupied property goes unrepaired its a problem
Should I continue....these are only a few examples

Once I see that the council can start to spend wisely I would support new revenue inititives to see more done. But why not try to a least get the present spending in order first and make sure they are actually needed.

We do want the same things. But do some members of council?
 

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I cliked on this thread thinking that Mayor Ford was reviewing a Rave.
I thought one of the Ford lovers was auditioning for the next admin spot when the revolving door spits out another disillusioned soul.
 

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Subways, subways, subways?

All the more important when you're ducking chunks of concrete falling off the Gardner.
What about the subways? You mean the metrolinx tax grab? I am glad may ford said no to that, funny how their presto card system was what like 200 percent over budget and even the ttc rejected it? No thanks no more hanging the non unionized tax payers every time a transit fiasco is created or about to be created... Gardiner, i agree as butler1000 said, that should be fixed up asap.

Exactly. And that's where the 2013 budget surplus should go. To fixing the Gardiner. Ofcourse some of that surplus came from the garbage deal. So perhaps privatizing the rest of the city would be an excellent choice. More money for other backlogged repairs.
 

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Mayor Ford is getting rave reviews? That makes sense, since you'd have to be a raving nutter to think he is anything but a criminally shitty mayor and human being.
 

Butler1000

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Mayor Ford is getting rave reviews? That makes sense, since you'd have to be a raving nutter to think he is anything but a criminally shitty mayor and human being.
Of course. Why would anyone put up a reasoned arguement when name-calling is so much easier. Perhaps you might try looking at things objectively sometime. You might be surprised how there are several members of council who need to be repleced with more reasoned people.
 
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