As stated before, the two state solution is really the Balkan Solution or the Yugoslavia solution.
If you think the Palis and Israelis can build one state together, you are unrealistic.
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If you think the Palis and Israelis can build one state together, you are unrealistic.
Yes, and both Germany and Austria are significantly smaller in size for it.So did japan, germany and italy...so did egypt....u have no legs to stand on on this one.
But the funny thing was, when they were occupied and were being ethnically cleansed, and having their land taken away, they decided the best revenge was living well, so they built real states, with proper institutions and didn't engage in terrorist acitivities or tolerate radicals.
A model the Palis should emulate.
As stated before, the two state solution is really the Balkan Solution or the Yugoslavia solution.
If you think the Palis and Israelis can build one state together, you are unrealistic.
Palestinians and Israelis would have no trouble living together. It's Zionists that have trouble with modern multicultural societies.
Yes because the Palis have shown how much they love their Israeli brothers and sisters and how they can build a functioning state.Palestinians and Israelis would have no trouble living together. It's Zionists that have trouble with modern multicultural societies.
Even you blamed the mother of a young terrorist victim for his death.
Tell us again about how peaceful and peace loving the Palis are.
Recently a group of Pali and Israeli children played a symbolic soccer match together. The Pali's who participated were criticized in public by PLA officials, and had their lives and families threatened until they made public statements saying that it was the wrong thing to do.
Yup. I can feel the love.
Threats were not even from Islamic Jihad or Hamas, but from Fatah the main Palestinian group.Yes because the Palis have shown how much they love their Israeli brothers and sisters and how they can build a functioning state.
Even you blamed the mother of a young terrorist victim for his death.
Tell us again about how peaceful and peace loving the Palis are.
Recently a group of Pali and Israeli children played a symbolic soccer match together. The Pali's who participated were criticized in public by PLA officials, and had their lives and families threatened until they made public statements saying that it was the wrong thing to do.
Yup. I can feel the love.
Friendly soccer match leads to Fatah threats
Fatah activists in the West Bank have threatened Palestinian teenagers who recently participated in a friendly soccer match with Israeli youth.
The tournament was organized by Mifalot, which describes itself as the largest and most diverse sports group for development and peace organization in the Middle East.
The most recent controversial football match, which was held in Holon as part of a project called United Neighbors, brought Palestinian and Israeli teenagers together with the support of the European Union.
But as soon as photos of the Palestinian and Israeli players appeared on a number of websites, Fatah activists denounced the event as a form of “normalization” with Israel.
Several Fatah activists posted threatening messages on the Internet against the Palestinian boys and girls who participated in the tournament.
A statement issued by the Fatah leadership in Ramallah also condemned the event, dubbing it a “strange trend.”
The statement threatened to reveal the identities of the Palestinians who were responsible for organizing the football match with Israelis.
http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Friendly-soccer-match-leads-to-Fatah-threats-313240
Yes, it did offer compensation for lost property, and a symbolic return for a smaller number.Did it offer full restitution or return of all 5 million refugees?
Which Arab majority state would you hold out as a model for multicultural societies?Palestinians and Israelis would have no trouble living together. It's Zionists that have trouble with modern multicultural societies.
Maybe some day the Arabs will leave behind their extreme racism and build secular democracies. In that future day then perhaps a one-state solution would be possible, with everybody living together in a secular multi-cultural democracy. That would be nice.
But that isn't what would happen right now. In every instance, including in the Palestinian Authority, when the Arabs have had a majority they have used it to marginalize and ultimately ethnically cleanse Jews. It has happened in every single Arab state and in the Palestinian Authority. A significant percentage of the Arab population continues to believe that violence against Jews is practically a religious duty.
This is unlike in Israel where the Jewish majority built a secular democracy that offered full citizenship and equality to the Arab minority living there.
If you want a one state solution, some day, you're going to have to explain how we get around a hundred years of Arab violence against Jews that shows only vague signs of letting up. There were some promising inklings in Egypt recently that things might turn around -- but it hasn't yet, and when it does, it'll surely take at least a couple of generations become normal. At that point, and not at any point before that, it might be possible to talk about a one state solution.
Until then "one state solution" is code for "annihilate all the Jews". You know it, and I know it, and everybody else knows it.
What were the numbers for compensation and return?Yes, it did offer compensation for lost property, and a symbolic return for a smaller number.
Were they 'generous' or were they less then what the UN has demanded?
The UN has not made any such demand.What were the numbers for compensation and return?
Were they 'generous' or were they less then what the UN has demanded?
The UN has said that all settlements are illegal and the refugees have the right of return.The UN has not made any such demand.
The Zionist chicken little call of "annihilate all the Jews" is code for "lets delay implementation of international law and equality as long as we can can."Which Arab majority state would you hold out as a model for multicultural societies?
Maybe some day the Arabs will leave behind their extreme racism and build secular democracies. In that future day then perhaps a one-state solution would be possible, with everybody living together in a secular multi-cultural democracy. That would be nice.
But that isn't what would happen right now. In every instance, including in the Palestinian Authority, when the Arabs have had a majority they have used it to marginalize and ultimately ethnically cleanse Jews. It has happened in every single Arab state and in the Palestinian Authority. A significant percentage of the Arab population continues to believe that violence against Jews is practically a religious duty.
This is unlike in Israel where the Jewish majority built a secular democracy that offered full citizenship and equality to the Arab minority living there.
If you want a one state solution, some day, you're going to have to explain how we get around a hundred years of Arab violence against Jews that shows only vague signs of letting up. There were some promising inklings in Egypt recently that things might turn around -- but it hasn't yet, and when it does, it'll surely take at least a couple of generations become normal. At that point, and not at any point before that, it might be possible to talk about a one state solution.
Until then "one state solution" is code for "annihilate all the Jews". You know it, and I know it, and everybody else knows it.
Nothing in international law requires the destruction of Israel. Keep dreaming.The Zionist chicken little call of "annihilate all the Jews" is code for "lets delay implementation of international law and equality as long as we can can."
Israel will not consent to a one state solution given eve extreme violence and racism practiced by every Arab nation.
The one state solution won't destroy Israel. Racist and greedy Zionism is already doing it.Nothing in international law requires the destruction of Israel. Keep dreaming.
Israel will not consent to a one state solution given eve extreme violence and racism practiced by every Arab nation.
Seems to me that Israel these days is just as violent and racist as all but Syria around them.Nothing in international law requires the destruction of Israel. Keep dreaming.
Israel will not consent to a one state solution given eve extreme violence and racism practiced by every Arab nation.
But how do you justify defending a state that you say would be destroyed by equal rights?
Continued excuses to avoid peace.What were the numbers for compensation and return?
Were they 'generous' or were they less then what the UN has demanded?
Please show the part of UN resolutions that say that the children of refugees have a right to go to Israel....and the refugees have the right of return.
If the millions of Palestinians aren't interested in Jews having equal rights they'd end up with a 'democracy' like in Egypt....
But how do you justify defending a state that you say would be destroyed by equal rights?
And yes, 70% of Palestinians are opposed to a one state solution that gives equal rights to Jews. Israelis want their own state. Palestinians want their own state. All that needs to happen is for the Palestinian leadership to stop rejecting reasonable peace offers (and for most Palestinian factions to accept the possibility of peace).
You have told this lie before, you have gotten your ass kicked for it before, and you're going to get your ass kicked again. Quit lying.The UN has said that all settlements are illegal and the refugees have the right of return.
The UN has called for "a just settlement of the refugee problem" and "a just and durable solution for Palestine refugees". It has not demanded a right of return and there is no legal basis anywhere in international law for a right of return. The right of return is a POLITICAL goal of the Palestinians, but it is not a legal entitlement, and aside from fanatics everybody understands that it is code for "destruction of Israel". The UN did not set up Israel as a Jewish state in 1947 just so it could be wiped out by spurious claims that millions of Arabs should migrate there.
Creating a Palestinian state and compensating the refugees for their lost property is "a just and durable solution for Palestine refugees".
Israel has equal rights today. Israel would not be destroyed by equal rights -- that is just fanatical propaganda.Seems to me that Israel these days is just as violent and racist as all but Syria around them.
But how do you justify defending a state that you say would be destroyed by equal rights?
Israel would be destroyed by the desire of millions of Arabs for UNEQUAL rights, by the persecution of Jews that is so the norm in every Arab majority country. It is the violent, racist inequality that the Arabs desire that would destroy Israel.
Now if there were Arab states that had demonstrated a commitment to equality, if the Palestinian Authority formed itself into a model democracy, with strong beliefs in equality, and a healthy and growing population of Jews and Arabs living together, THEN maybe we could talk about it. But we both know that isn't going to happen -- the Palestine majority is full of hate and, overall, bent on the eviction of all Jews from "their" land (which they believe includes Tel Aviv).
