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With the "drug" vote behind him, I wonder if Now Magazine will officially support Ford?
 

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Addiction isn't class conscious. It works just as well on rich neurochemistry as poor. It's possible he started with a more typical rich man's drug like cocaine classic and "upgraded" to a quicker delivery mechanism after becoming addicted.
Thank you Dr Fuji :)
 

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With the "drug" vote behind him, I wonder if Now Magazine will officially support Ford?
Fat chance (pun not intended)
 

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This morning in an interview, the question was asked, will this video simply disappear. The reporter, who broke this story, said, hmm, don't know. That would be convenient before others can get a chance to closely examine it. I'm not saying it isn't the mayor, but I keep not getting convinced. If it is, even being a supporter of him, considering the alternatives, it would be hard to support him now. My skepticism to it's validity would rise 'if' the video just faded away. It's one of the political alarm bells that couldn't easily be unrung.
 

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The Story is legit.

The Star is the only paper that does investigative journalism and we're lucky for it.

We deserve to know the dirty details of our mayor's actions whether we like it or not.
How can the story be legit if there is no evidence, other than 2 Star reporters claiming they saw a video of Ford smoking a substance. This is not the definition of investigative journalism Jennifer.
 

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How can the story be legit if there is no evidence, other than 2 Star reporters claiming they saw a video of Ford smoking a substance. This is not the definition of investigative journalism Jennifer.
Gawker was the first, independent from The Star (and kept the story for 2 weeks) -- did The Star drop the ball?
 

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This is one I'm going to say I'll believe it when I see it.
His sister had multiple drug convictions and was married to a cocaine dealer. Several other family members have similar issues. Before this video Ford was able to distance himself from his family's problems, but unfortunately it is not a stretch to think that the darker Ford family traditions have involved him too. He clearly has access to cocaine and is intimately connected to a community that uses it.

This story has enough legs that Ford needs to take a positive step to clear the air, either an admission that he has a problem, or a drug test proving he doesn't.
 

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His sister had multiple drug convictions and was married to a cocaine dealer. Several other family members have similar issues. Before this video Ford was able to distance himself from his family's problems, but unfortunately it is not a stretch to think that the darker Ford family traditions have involved him too. He clearly has access to cocaine and is intimately connected to a community that uses it.

This story has enough legs that Ford needs to take a positive step to clear the air, either an admission that he has a problem, or a drug test proving he doesn't.
On principle, I disagree with the guilty until proven innocent nature of drug tests. But I do agree that Ford has to clear the air.
 

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On principle, I disagree with the guilty until proven innocent nature of drug tests. But I do agree that Ford has to clear the air.
He is a politician, by definition he is being tried in the court of public opinion. He isn't facing a criminal charge, he is facing an election. If he wants votes, he needs to kill these suspicions, he has to show people he can be trusted to earn their votes.
 

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On principle, I disagree with the guilty until proven innocent nature of drug tests. But I do agree that Ford has to clear the air.
And Ford does have a history of both substance abuse and lying about the substance abuse.
He lied about being arrested for pot in Florida and he lied about the leafs game incident.
 

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He is a politician, by definition he is being tried in the court of public opinion. He isn't facing a criminal charge, he is facing an election. If he wants votes, he needs to kill these suspicions, he has to show people he can be trusted to earn their votes.
Right on, and that is why I think this story will linger and last for a while, with Crackman Ford not denying anything.

Either it is true and Crackman Ford is hiding something, or it is an elaborate hoax.

If it is the latter, Crackman Ford has to milk this political prosecution for all its worth. Another baseless attempt at the Mayor of Toronto.

This is a huge political power play.

Crackman Ford's election for mayor in 2014 is happening right now.
 

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Right on, and that is why I think this story will linger and last for a while, with Crackman Ford not denying anything.

Either it is true and Crackman Ford is hiding something, or it is an elaborate hoax.

If it is the latter, Crackman Ford has to milk this political prosecution for all its worth. Another baseless attempt at the Mayor of Toronto.

This is a huge political power play.

Crackman Ford's election for mayor in 2014 is happening right now.

I'm nor quite sure why you say 'if', as you seem to be sure he's guilty referring to him as Crackman more than once here and in other threads.

The Mayor Crackman Ford will easily win the next mayor election.

Subways, and no taxes. After that recent subway debate, city council supports that position.

City council supports Crackman Ford's core positions.

Politically, he holds the winning hand. No one will emerge to defeat him on political issues.

Not Flip-Flop Woman. Not Weasel Man. Not another ring winger eight, because Crackman Ford has more street cred than those wannabes.

The only way Crackman Ford can lose next election is via character assassination, like they do in Third World politics with help from CIA or KGB.

Third World politics is always more fun.
 

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He is a politician, by definition he is being tried in the court of public opinion. He isn't facing a criminal charge, he is facing an election. If he wants votes, he needs to kill these suspicions, he has to show people he can be trusted to earn their votes.

I'm wondering "why" Rob Ford retained the services of "criminal lawyer" Dennis Morris, instead of contacting Alan J.Lenczner, Q.C. who handled his conflict of interest case, rather successfully, I might add. If The Star and Gawker are defaming (slandering) and harassing him, wouldn't a civil litigator have been the "obvious" choice? Although Lenczner may not have been available on Friday, http://www.litigate.com/bios.aspx there are 46 other lawyers at Lenczner's firm that are more than capable of preparing a press release on Fords behalf.

Before I pass judgement, I'm going to wait for the rest of the facts to come to light. The crowdsourcing account has now raised close to $64,000.00 http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/rob-ford-crackstarter Hopefully the video will be made public soon.
 

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I'm wondering "why" Rob Ford retained the services of "criminal lawyer" Dennis Morris, instead of contacting Alan J.Lenczner, Q.C. who handled his conflict of interest case, rather successfully, I might add. If The Star and Gawker are defaming (slandering) and harassing him, wouldn't a civil litigator have been the "obvious" choice? Although Lenczner may not have been available on Friday, http://www.litigate.com/bios.aspx there are 46 other lawyers at Lenczner's firm that are more than capable of preparing a press release on Fords behalf.

Before I pass judgement, I'm going to wait for the rest of the facts to come to light. The crowdsourcing account has now raised close to $64,000.00 http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/rob-ford-crackstarter Hopefully the video will be made public soon.
And how do you know he didn't Conact Alan J. Lenczer ?
 

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I'm nor quite sure why you say 'if', as you seem to be sure he's guilty referring to him as Crackman more than once here and in other threads.
Dear sir, I think I am just teasing people, ie the Ford haters. LOL.

I really like Ford, and I still want Ford for mayor.

However, I did not start off that way.

Over time, seeing the buffoonery, but also seeing the unrelenting hate from his opponents, I came to the conclusion that Ford may be indeed the best choice for this city at this particular time.

His core political positions are fiscal restraint, subways, and no new taxes at least minimized them.

After Ford and his executive committee deferred comment on which taxes to recommend to Metrolink (because they were against it), city council, going against the mayor, hijacked the issue and forced a debate on which taxes to recommend.

As we saw how that debate turned out, city council rejected all forms of taxation to Metrolink, and supported a subway in Scarborough. These are exactly Mayor Ford's position. City Council has endorsed Mayor Ford's core political positions.

Then two week later, this Crackman Ford scandal breaks out.

I smell a rat, or rats.

It seems to me that nowadays, to be a conservative politicians, not a wishy-washy one, you'll wind up being a polarizing figure.

Best example is Thatcher. She was a true conservative. Not sure if Reagon or Bush were conservative like Thatcher. I doubt.

Even in this country, the PC party did produce true conservatives. Mulruoney was hated at the very end. Polarizing. Harper, no need say anything.

Mayor Ford is a true polarizing conservative politician, who core political positions are now in line with city council. He's winning.

So the haters pull something out of their bag of tricks. Not saying this cannot be true the allegations from the ethnic drug dealer. Why the Somoli angle? Can't figure that one out.

How can we not like Rob Ford's mayorship?

We have intense political battles at City Hall, complete with back stabbing and ideological zeal. Then we have Solomi drug lords holding the balance of power in the mayor's seat.

LOL.

In my heart, Mayor Rob Ford, he will always be Crackman Ford.

Hope he sticks it to his opponents. Time will tell.

:hippie:
 

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Any video yet?
 

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And how do you know he didn't Conact Alan J. Lenczer ?
If he had, criminal lawyer, Dennis Morris, wouldn't be acting on Fords behalf. If The Star's story is proven spurious, Ford will need a civil litigator to file the defamation lawsuit. Civil lawsuits are outside the purview of criminal lawyers.
 
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