Bill Maher’s Tax Hypocrisy

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The Hollywood liberal doesn't want to pay his fair share.

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http://frontpagemag.com/2013/ben-shapiro/bill-maher-complains-about-high-taxes/


Ben Shapiro
March 21, 2013


Last Friday night, Bill Maher spent time on his HBO show blasting away at liberal tax policy. “You know what?” he asked. “Rich people – I’m sure you’d agree with this – actually do pay the freight in this country.” After noting that California’s wealthy carry the vast bulk of the tax burden in the state, he said, “I just want to say liberals – you could actually lose me. It’s outrageous what we’re paying – over 50 percent. I’m willing to pay my share, but yeah, it’s ridiculous.”

This is a far cry from Maher’s 2010 perspective on taxation. Back then, he said, “I’ve done some math that indicates that, considering the hole this country is in, if you are earning more than a million dollars a year and are complaining about a 3.6% tax increase, then you are by definition a greedy a–hole.”

So why is Maher saying now that he’s sick of taxes, when just a couple years ago, he felt that standing against class warfare made people “greedy a—holes”?

Hollywood is full of hypocritical millionaires who stash their cash in offshore accounts to avoid taxes, buy goods using cash, and take every tax deduction they possibly can. These are the same folks who loudly proclaim the evils of capitalism while partying on Sunset Blvd. with their friends. They order thousand-dollar bottles of wine while complaining about the fate of impoverished youth in the inner city. They own private jets but whine about income inequality.

How can Hollywood liberals live with that cognitive dissonance? The answer lies in feelings. Hollywood liberals feel good when they cast their ballots for higher taxes. They feel bad when they pay those taxes, however. They feel as if they’ve done their duty when they pull the lever for Barack Obama. But they feel as if they’ve been gypped when the studios don’t want to pay union scale.

It’s all about feelings. That’s why Hollywood’s politics are so skewed on the social issues that make high taxes necessary. Folks like Maher are politically incorrect enough to blast away at California’s high tax rates. But they feel nasty and guilty about holding people to certain ethical standards in order to prevent the necessity for high tax rates. You won’t catch Bill Maher blabbing about the problem of unwed motherhood in the inner cities – a problem that necessitates high taxes under the liberal mindset. You won’t catch Maher complaining about Jerry Brown’s lucrative union deals – deals that secure him office and necessitate bond issuances and voluntary tax increases.

But Maher will complain about high taxes in general. For a group of folks who pride themselves on investigating supposed root causes, liberals like Maher seem far less interested in tapping into the root causes of government spending than they are in spending money, then complaining when the bill comes due.

Cause and effect are unpleasant realities. So modern liberals reject causal relationships. When Wendy’s says they will have to cut back workers’ hours due to the costs of Obamacare, the left goes berserk – they don’t like the cutbacks, and they do like Obamacare. So even if Obamacare causes cutbacks, that’s Wendy’s fault. When Papa John’s says that they’ll have to up the price of pizza, the left goes insane. When Five Guys franchise owners say that the price of burgers will likely rise, the left dismisses such statements as politically motivated.

Don’t count on Bill Maher’s newly-found conservatism on taxes to extend to the rest of his worldview. He may bitch about tax rates now. But if he were forced to confront the fact that the rest of his worldview mandates higher taxes, he’d gladly sign the check. Or at least he’d grit his teeth and send his cash to the Caymans.
 

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Come back and discuss that again when your opinion is less biased. Most people, I would hope, are tired of the obvious blindness of those who claim to be Democrats and Republicans, Liberals or Conservatives. How these people can completely ignore flaws in their own argument, yet exaggerate those of others is beyond me.
 

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Come back and discuss that again when your opinion is less biased. Most people, I would hope, are tired of the obvious blindness of those who claim to be Democrats and Republicans, Liberals or Conservatives. How these people can completely ignore flaws in their own argument, yet exaggerate those of others is beyond me.
I watched maher's show last week. The comment in question was off the cuff and was a bit tongue in cheek and was not discussed by the panel. I increasingly find that the ignoring of one's own ideological flaws is more a failing of the right in the U.S. I enjoy maher's point of view and I consider myself a conservative...in this country. South of the border some might call me a socialist. They've completely lost their minds. Lol!
 

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I watched maher's show last week. The comment in question was off the cuff and was a bit tongue in cheek and was not discussed by the panel. I increasingly find that the ignoring of one's own ideological flaws is more a failing of the right in the U.S. I enjoy maher's point of view and I consider myself a conservative...in this country. South of the border some might call me a socialist. They've completely lost their minds. Lol!
Yes, this is quite right. Maher is actually very consistent in his views over time. He's one of the few sane ones that can straddle left and right very comfortably, and it's rare that I disagree with him. The Right has tried desperately to nail him over time, without much success. Maher is a straight shooter who actually cares about people. But he's tough and unbending, and is rarely taken down. You'll notice right in the quote Maher says "I'm willing to pay my fair share, but..." while oil&gas says "not willing to pay fair share." Duh. Credibility zeroed. Plus, the article is just garbage.
 

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BS commentary from a conservative hack.
They'll do anything to discredit Maher.
Pathetic.
 

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the reason Maher was complaining , goes hand in hand with reckless spending...a la the money spent on the military and social security...the cons want to increase military spending ( Paul Ryan's recent proposal)...you can see why taxes are so bloody high , and why Maher would complain, considering the US is in a debt crisis , yet neither party ( more so the GOP) want to decrease the spending on the Military....
 

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the reason Maher was complaining , goes hand in hand with reckless spending...a la the money spent on the military and social security...the cons want to increase military spending ( Paul Ryan's recent proposal)...you can see why taxes are so bloody high , and why Maher would complain, considering the US is in a debt crisis , yet neither party ( more so the GOP) want to decrease the spending on the Military....
Always the elephant in the room. So crazy Bachmann's complaining about Obama's extra staff while no one on the Right dares talk about the meat and potatoes: Military spending and social security. Rinse and repeat.
 

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I didn't see the show but we don't need to pay personal income taxes. And what I mean by that is the Government of Canada used to coin our money. Prior to that Communist Trudeau creating the Bank of Canada. Or money was created by the Government of Canada. Now it is created by a privately owned Central Bank that reports back into the BIS ( Bank of International Settlements ). For every dollar that is created it is issued as debt. And we pay interest on that debt. We do not and should not have to do this. See link below for an explanation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx5Sc3vWefE

We can create money and do it interest free. Unfortunately the people that run the BIS are the most powerful men on the planet. As our former PM Paul Martin said when asked why Canada doesn't coin our own money he replied " If I decided tonight that Canada would coin it's own money. I would likely be dead by the morning "

BS
 

Big Sleazy

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I didn't see the show but we don't need to pay personal income taxes. And what I mean by that is the Government of Canada used to coin our money. Prior to that Communist Trudeau creating the Bank of Canada. Or money was created by the Government of Canada. Now it is created by a privately owned Central Bank that reports back into the BIS ( Bank of International Settlements ). For every dollar that is created it is issued as debt. And we pay interest on that debt. We do not and should not have to do this. See link below for an explanation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx5Sc3vWefE

We can create money and do it interest free. Unfortunately the people that run the BIS are the most powerful men on the planet. As our former PM Paul Martin said when asked why Canada doesn't coin our own money he replied " If I decided tonight that Canada would coin it's own money. I would likely be dead by the morning "

BS
 

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Yes, this is quite right. Maher is actually very consistent in his views over time.
Oh, I agree. I watch his show every now and then, and although I don't always agree with him he tends to explain his argument well and will admit when an opposing argument has a point, even if it doesn't persuade him to jump ship. I can respect him for that. In the world of politics, too many people see admitting a point as admitting defeat, when doing the opposite virtually destroys your credibility.
 

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I didn't see the show but we don't need to pay personal income taxes. And what I mean by that is the Government of Canada used to coin our money. Prior to that Communist Trudeau creating the Bank of Canada. Or money was created by the Government of Canada. Now it is created by a privately owned Central Bank that reports back into the BIS ( Bank of International Settlements ). For every dollar that is created it is issued as debt. And we pay interest on that debt. We do not and should not have to do this. See link below for an explanation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx5Sc3vWefE

We can create money and do it interest free. Unfortunately the people that run the BIS are the most powerful men on the planet. As our former PM Paul Martin said when asked why Canada doesn't coin our own money he replied " If I decided tonight that Canada would coin it's own money. I would likely be dead by the morning "

BS
Really? That's your argument against income tax? Marshall the credible witnesses.
Are you a "truther" as well? There is no evidence like YouTube evidence. Lol!
 

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Really? That's your argument against income tax? Marshall the credible witnesses.
Are you a "truther" as well? There is no evidence like YouTube evidence. Lol!
i'm sure Big Sleazy also thinks the Illuminati owns the Fed, Alien reptiles have spawned Obama and the democrats are really socialist nazis ( does that even make sense?)
 

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You'll notice right in the quote Maher says "I'm willing to pay my fair share, but..." while oil&gas says "not willing to pay fair share." Duh. Credibility zeroed. Plus, the article is just garbage.
Didn't you put the word 'fair' into the quote? Seems like my credibility is nonetheless
half as good as yours. Here is more precisely what Maher said to MSNBC host Rachel
Maddow:


.....here in California, I just want to say liberals – you could actually lose me. It’s
outrageous what we’re paying – over 50 percent. I’m willing to pay my
share, but yeah, it’s ridiculous.


He may be willing to pay his share just not too happily.
 

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Didn't you put the word 'fair' into the quote? Seems like my credibility is nonetheless
half as good as yours. Here is more precisely what Maher said to MSNBC host Rachel
Maddow:


.....here in California, I just want to say liberals – you could actually lose me. It’s
outrageous what we’re paying – over 50 percent. I’m willing to pay my
share, but yeah, it’s ridiculous.


He may be willing to pay his share just not too happily.
Um, once again, your quote is: "The Hollywood liberal doesn't want to pay his fair share."

His quote: "I’m willing to pay my share, but yeah, it’s ridiculous."

You realize how stupid you sound, right?

Plus, if you knew Maher, he's a soft libertarian, and not a liberal per se. He has an independent mind, which is rare enough, and rarer still amongst the herd think on the looney Right. If there was a truly viable Goldwater Conservatism in American politics, they would embrace Maher as one of their own on many issues. But there isn't.

Instead, you get pure histrionic bullshit like your link.
 

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His job is to be entertaining and do a show. Even if it means to provoke a response to get a reaction. Of course we all see that when it is his bacon in the fire he is going to haul it out.
 

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Yes, this is quite right. Maher is actually very consistent in his views over time. He's one of the few sane ones that can straddle left and right very comfortably, and it's rare that I disagree with him. The Right has tried desperately to nail him over time, without much success. Maher is a straight shooter who actually cares about people. But he's tough and unbending, and is rarely taken down. You'll notice right in the quote Maher says "I'm willing to pay my fair share, but..." while oil&gas says "not willing to pay fair share." Duh. Credibility zeroed. Plus, the article is just garbage.
Maher has never campaigned for anything on the right of the political spectrum, but you're right that he has consistently ridiculed anyone who does.
 
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